[HN Gopher] The MP3.com Rescue Barge Barge
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The MP3.com Rescue Barge Barge
Author : CharlesW
Score : 64 points
Date : 2025-10-26 20:23 UTC (8 days ago)
(HTM) web link (blog.somnolescent.net)
(TXT) w3m dump (blog.somnolescent.net)
| amatecha wrote:
| Wow, hell yes, thank you. Found a very old remix a friend made of
| one of my songs! Unfortunately looks like another friend's songs
| weren't archived. A bunch of mine were though. Awesome! <3
| buildbot wrote:
| I really hate how often modern UIs forgot that sometimes a folder
| might have _literally Cthulhu_ (A.K.A 4 billion 1kb text files)
| in it and will absolutely fall apart - looking at you cursor.
| stronglikedan wrote:
| or 4 billion levels of subfolder like npm (I haven't used it in
| years now, but maybe they've fixed it since.)
| ronsor wrote:
| It's not even UIs--most filesystems hate tons of small files in
| a single directory. It really shouldn't be done.
| dylan604 wrote:
| I got my taste of "full" folders with NT during the early
| days of DVD programming. The software would write everything
| into a single directory where it would create at least 3
| files per source asset. We were working a specialty DVD that
| had 100k assets. The software+NT would crash crash crash. The
| next year the project came through, we were on a newer
| version of the software running Win2k and performance was
| much improved using same hardware. I haven't had to do
| anything with a folder that full in years, but I'd assume it
| is less of a chore than the days of NT. Then again, it could
| have gotten better, but then regressed as well. Really, I'm
| just happy I don't get any where close to that to find out.
| Thev00d00 wrote:
| Oh man, as a casual Musicbrainz contributor, we need to get these
| added/linked
| echelon wrote:
| I feel like we'll not only live to see the day where we're
| finally out from under the clutches of the RIAA, but that that
| day is fast approaching.
|
| The death of the RIAA will come from an open source music gen
| model that busts open the economics of music IP. And probably one
| from the Chinese.
|
| It's been announced that AI-generated music is already starting
| to top charts [1, 2]. The RIAA moved to shut down Udio [3, 4] and
| succeeded in getting them to capitulate to onerous demands [5].
| They're probably trying to shut down Suno and the rest as we
| speak.
|
| If a solid music gen model comes out of China, the RIAA will be
| toast.
|
| Nobody is going to go after every single song published and ask
| them to show their sources. That's absurd. There just aren't the
| resources to do that. And generative software will eventually
| generate those anyway.
|
| Once this begins to proliferate in the open, there won't be any
| control levers left.
|
| The RIAA couldn't stop RVC models. Once there are more powerful
| models, it's game over. Every DAW will bake them in and everyone
| will have a complete working studio on their desktop.
|
| Tencent is working really hard on this [6, 7]. There's no way the
| tentacles of the RIAA can stop China.
|
| We've already artists switching to concerts and merch as the
| primary means of revenue generation. Switching to using singles
| and albums are more promotional of the artists' brands - that's
| the correct model.
|
| [1] https://www.billboard.com/lists/ai-artists-on-billboard-
| char...
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| [2] https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/01/entertainment/xania-monet-
| bil...
|
| [3] https://www.riaa.com/record-companies-bring-landmark-
| cases-f...
|
| [4] https://musically.com/2025/09/29/riaa-updates-udio-
| lawsuit-a...
|
| [5] https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/universal-music-
| settl...
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| [6] https://cypress-yang.github.io/SongBloom_demo/
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| [7] https://github.com/tencent-ailab/SongBloom
| goopypoop wrote:
| mush can't save art
| echelon wrote:
| You can make art with literally anything.
|
| I once hooked up lasers, galvos, and a web cam with some band
| pass filters to make an interactive art demo where people
| could draw onto the side of tall buildings using a laser
| pointer. The web cam tracked the laser pointer and the
| projector I built traced your work and displayed it with
| persistence.
|
| None of those ingredients would scream art at face value. It
| takes an artist to assemble them into something that
| captivates others.
|
| AI is simply one more tool in the tool belt for an artist.
|
| You might be talking about "prompting". Such as someone
| typing something lazily into ChatGPT and calling the output
| "art". I'll give you that. Without sufficient intention,
| taste, or curation, it's not going to hold attention.
|
| I'm talking about tools for artists like these:
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| https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQaorWJETXe/
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| https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQakfG2D3tN/
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| https://x.com/get_artcraft/status/1972723816087392450
| (something I made)
|
| Or tools for musicians like these:
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2CQLZIlbI
|
| Or even interactive art that leverages AI and involves the
| viewer, like these:
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| https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fW9LI6dwCX8
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hnIPdVZK1A
|
| I'm a filmmaker and I've made countless "photons on glass"
| films. AI tools are incredible at getting ideas out of my
| head and into yours on both a time and monetary budget.
|
| I'm elated that Disney- and Pixar-level VFX are now within
| scope and that I don't have to be born as a nepo baby in
| order to direct a film with "Disney-caliber" visuals.
|
| One last analogy using pre-AI tech: not all cameras produce
| art. We have them in our cell phones and can use them to snap
| selfies and food pics. But in the hands of the right person
| or under the right conditions, we might call the outputs of
| the process of photography "art".
| BigTTYGothGF wrote:
| > The death of the RIAA will come from an open source music gen
| model that busts open the economics of music IP.
|
| The master's house will not be destroyed by cow tools.
| officeplant wrote:
| >It's been announced that AI-generated music is already
| starting to top charts
|
| It's not hard to be slop with slop. If we're being honest here.
|
| > Every DAW will bake them in
|
| And this is when my love of music will finally start to die.
| Living long enough to see DAWs elevate the common hobby
| musician into developing a skillset, only to give in to the AI
| hype cycles and kill the soul of creativity.
|
| But at least the main DAW I use these days (Renoise) is so
| traditionally minded that kind of slop shit will never make it
| into an update since the userbase would riot in response.
|
| May the AI enjoy the rot in their soulless world.
| echelon wrote:
| > It's not hard to be slop with slop
|
| A tool in and of itself is not slop.
|
| What someone makes can classify as slop if the person doesn't
| have skills and taste. If they're not diligent about their
| work and careful about what they share.
|
| A real artist is capable of using any tool available to them.
|
| > Living long enough to see DAWs elevate the common hobby
| musician into developing a skillset, only to give in to the
| AI hype cycles and kill the soul of creativity.
|
| Are you angry about AI code completion? Is tab
| suggest/autocomplete ruining your love of programming?
|
| Are all the "common hobbyists" going to make you exit your
| career?
| IshKebab wrote:
| It's been a while... what kind of music was on mp3.com? Is this
| commercial stuff? Small bands?
| adzm wrote:
| It was mostly indie bands and self-published stuff, at least
| when I used to use it. The idea I think was a place for legal
| music sharing without piracy. At some point it started becoming
| more of a web magazine thing and I kinda forgot about it.
| comprev wrote:
| There was once a band called Hybrid Theory who had a name clash
| with another band on MP3.com at the time, so instead they
| called their debut album by that name. The band instead renamed
| to Linkin Park :)
|
| (At least that's what I remember reading - the band certainly
| changed it's name from Hybrid Theory)
| bnpxft wrote:
| it was essentially bandcamp before bandcamp
| AlyssaRowan wrote:
| All kinds of self-published stuff, lots of which later _became_
| commercial. You will have heard of some of it, for _sure_.
| Darude - Sandstorm? That was from there. DragonForce were big
| in the power metal category. The band that became Linkin Park
| came from there. And then hundreds of thousands of indie
| artists (including an earlier me).
|
| The RIAA's action there destroyed vast amounts of music, pretty
| much the equivalent of if someone just aggressively deleted
| Bandcamp and Soundcloud put together and everything on it
| because they were upset they didn't control it all. I will
| _never_ forgive them for that.
| fragmede wrote:
| Hey can someone seed the L directory for all_music_2023.torrent?
| I've almost got it fully downloaded but just that one's missing.
| 4cidBurn wrote:
| I haven't had a chance to download The Barge yet; it's still on
| my to-do list. A few months ago, back in July, I went through the
| PureVolume archives and built a handy searchable database and
| app. It ended up being about 181GB, so I didn't want to host it
| myself, but I did make a torrent.
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