[HN Gopher] Warp Terminal changes pricing model
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Warp Terminal changes pricing model
Author : leglock
Score : 29 points
Date : 2025-10-31 14:47 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| smokeydoe wrote:
| Warp is so horribly broken right now and has been for weeks.
| Multiple github issues on what I experience is consistent issue
| writing file. On top of that UI glitches, and inability to use
| the great code indexing feature, file and diff Explorer while in
| WSL or any ssh connection. It unfortunate because I liked it a
| lot before, but after multiple weeks with the same breaking
| issues, it's practically unusable.
| richwater wrote:
| Pretty clear announcement. Unfortunate price increases but that's
| how it goes right now.
| gray_-_wolf wrote:
| Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive.
|
| > Can I continue to use Warp as my primary terminal?
|
| > Yes, the Terminal features of Warp will continue to be free to
| use for developers across Windows, Mac, and Linux.
|
| Well this is something at least I guess.
| rapind wrote:
| Who cares when Ghostty exists though...
| john_alan wrote:
| your spelled iTerm2 wrong :)
| fukka42 wrote:
| How do I run this on Windows and Linux?
| latexr wrote:
| Ghostty aims to be cross-platform (I think Windows
| support isn't there yet but is planned), but iTerm2 is
| macOS-only.
| Brajeshwar wrote:
| I was on iTerm2 for a pretty loong time. You should try out
| Ghostty.
| WesolyKubeczek wrote:
| You meant "iTerm2 with no scrollbars and no scrollback
| history search" was spelled wrong.
|
| (yes I know they are working on it; but I also know iTerm2
| and Konsole have had them since about forever, and I use
| that feature a lot, so it's kinda major impediment)
| Spivak wrote:
| How are all of you spelling WezTerm wrong.
| slenk wrote:
| Just started using this - it's pretty nice. Very
| customizable but it makes my oh-my-zsh setup look like
| crap with it's fonts.
|
| I started using it since it's cross platform and I use
| chezmoi, but the config quickly gets complicated if you
| want things like folders in your tab titles, etc
| speedgoose wrote:
| iTerm2 is not in the same league when it comes to speed.
| speedgoose wrote:
| I'm on ghostty but warp is a lot more than a terminal. I used
| to consider their product to be a shitty AI powered terminal
| until I saw a demo of it. Now I consider it as a fair AI
| agent application that has a good CLI integration and some
| notebook features.
| Aurornis wrote:
| Ghostty is an interesting project, but it's not usable yet
| for those of us who use scrollback history search until they
| ship that feature https://github.com/ghostty-
| org/ghostty/issues/189
|
| The growing popularity of ghostty has made me realize a lot
| of people don't use scroll back history search. I use it
| frequently to save time and avoid having to rerun time
| intensive tasks to pipe them through grep or tee everything
| to a file.
| jorl17 wrote:
| This exactly! Can't move from iterm2 until this feature,
| which is absolutely essential to me, is implemented.
|
| Love the work they're doing though!!
| xbar wrote:
| Are there any workarounds?
| antew wrote:
| In my ghostty config I use: scrollback-
| limit = 512000000 keybind =
| super+f=write_scrollback_file:open
|
| It writes it to a temporary file and then opens the file
| in the default text editor when I hit Cmd+F.
| jasonjmcghee wrote:
| tmux
|
| But there's a whole thread on other workarounds etc.
| Apparently it's on the roadmap.
|
| https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/189
| matwood wrote:
| I like Ghostty, but it's still missing a few features I need.
| Warp was interesting, but it was honestly overwhelming when I
| was simply reaching for a terminal. For now, I'm back on
| Terminal.app until Ghostty catches up feature wise.
| awb wrote:
| > Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive.
|
| You're really paying for AI compute, not the terminal.
| bigbuppo wrote:
| Subscriptions: AI makes it necessary.
| jzb wrote:
| "What a time to be alive"
|
| s/a/an awful/
|
| Some days I feel like everything peaked around mid-2000.
| fred_ wrote:
| I agree.
|
| Whan awfult a time to be alive
| askl wrote:
| at least they didn't add /g
| ciupicri wrote:
| To be honest there were a lot of "small" paid utility
| programs around mid-2000.
| dvt wrote:
| > Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive.
|
| As soon as they raised like 50M+ (why you'd ever need 50
| _million_ dollars to build a terminal--which have been
| essentially "solved" since the 1970s--is a pretty good
| question), this was bound to happen. Same nonsense will happen
| to Zed, etc.
| awill wrote:
| Oh no. Did I miss something? Did Zed get a bunch of
| unnecessary funding that will force them to do some
| subscription we'll all hate?
| zedsdeadbaby wrote:
| https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed
| whstl wrote:
| Well, they already have subscriptions for the agent usage,
| so the hope is that the editor will keep being free.
| mmh0000 wrote:
| To be fair, for those of us who live in a terminal, the
| terminal is/was not solved.
|
| Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode
| issues.
|
| Now, Warp is a terrible product, and I have nothing nice to
| say about them.
|
| But look at modern terminals like Kitty or Ghostty. There are
| so many very nice improvements. Like mouse support that works
| well (as opposed to "kind of works, but who needs a mouse?!,
| won't fix"), fast keyboard response (you'd think it wouldn't
| be noticeable, but it's very noticeable), copy-and-paste that
| makes sense and isn't different from everything else on the
| system, etc.
|
| https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/
|
| https://ghostty.org/
| wonger_ wrote:
| And if you want to overhaul _everything_ obsolete about the
| terminal and the shell, there 's still more room for
| improvement: https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-
| new-command-lin...
| bakql wrote:
| It's not "a terminal", it's a terminal with AI features that
| cost money to run. I understand you may not be interested in
| them, but let's not pretend that burning GPU power comes for
| free.
| fukka42 wrote:
| My machine has a perfectly fine CPU. A text box to enter
| OpenAI credentials would also be an easy fix.
| Spivak wrote:
| At least from their docs it seems like you can do exactly
| this.
| bdcravens wrote:
| If you pay for Claude Code, couldn't you then say you're paying
| for Visual Studio Code? Or if you use CC in the CLI, you're
| also paying for that terminal? Warp is just packaging AI with
| their terminal product.
| awb wrote:
| The difference is the point of sale. With VS Code, you
| purchase your AI compute elsewhere (Anthropic, OpenAI, etc.),
| and then use it through the free VS Code interface.
|
| With Warp, you purchase your AI compute through Warp (who
| then pays Anthropic, Open AI, etc. based on the model you
| choose).
| bigbuppo wrote:
| All up until the point that you get a "Dear Valued Customer"
| letter.
| pier25 wrote:
| > _Well this is something at least I guess._
|
| Until they change their TOS and use all your terminal input to
| train their models.
|
| I'm being sarcastic but how things are going something like
| this wouldn't surprise me at all.
| jbv027 wrote:
| Also terminal sending telemetry. So many no goes.
| Fizzadar wrote:
| Hard to tell from their main website what warp is anymore - I
| thought it was a terminal, but now it's an AI code editor? Or is
| it just a terminal that looks extremely like a code editor? Gotta
| tap into that sweet unlimited pile of AI cash I guess.
| stupeo wrote:
| Fair play to them for the way they communicated this. I like
| their style.
|
| However, I've been a Pro user for several months (use < 1000
| credits a month) - but I've noticed a real reduction in quality
| over the past month or so. I'm now getting random failures,
| stopping of agents etc.
| awb wrote:
| Their old Pro plan at $15/mo (paid annually) had 2,500/mo AI
| requests per month, use it or lose it.
|
| The new Build plan at $20/mo has 1,500 AI requests, but they roll
| over. (Edit: apparently they don't)
|
| > No bones about it: this plan will be more expensive for some
| users and less expensive for others.
|
| > We get that there's a lot of whiplash in the AI devtools
| pricing market, and sympathize. While we expect some churn from
| this change, we are trying to do it in as minimally disruptive a
| way as possible.
|
| I've found Warp to be very useful, but you're really paying for
| AI compute, not the terminal. And the AI compute space is getting
| very competitive.
| leglock wrote:
| From what I understand, in the new plan the 1,500 AI requests
| don't roll over. Only the add-on credits you buy on top of that
| will roll over and expire after 12 months.
| awb wrote:
| > On the Build plan, you pay for what you use and credits
| roll over month to month.
|
| Here's where I got it from, but I see how it's ambiguous.
| "You pay for what you use" sounds a bit like the BYOK (bring
| your own key) "add-on credits" pricing model you're referring
| to.
|
| But in the pricing table, they refer to monthly "AI credits".
| bananapub wrote:
| it's not ambiguous:
|
| > For the Build plan, credits will not rollover but Reload
| credits will rollover and be valid for 12 months from the
| date of purchase.
| maxdo wrote:
| from simple "slightly better terminal" to overloaded with
| questionable features. i have cursor, why do i need warp?
| especially since cursor can also run shell commands.
| acedTrex wrote:
| While I can not FATHOM using something like warp ever. I liked
| the writing, straight to the point, offered a conciliatory
| feature (BYOK).
| xbar wrote:
| I wish them success. I would like more of my vendors to operate
| their pricing this clearly.
| throwaway106382 wrote:
| Paying for a terminal, lmao.
| bdcravens wrote:
| Terminal is free. AI integration isn't.
| throwaway106382 wrote:
| Yeah but why would anyone pay for that when you can just use
| Codex/ClaudeCode/Amp/etc...
|
| I don't even bother with iTerm's AI integration because why
| would I???
| dmart wrote:
| I'm not a huge fan of Warp, but I would love for any other
| terminal to copy its text editor-style input field.
|
| It's so much nicer for 90% of my terminal usage (long multi-line
| commands, etc.) And when you do need TUI behavior that 10% of the
| time, just toggle it off.
| bitwize wrote:
| M-x shell :)
| pier25 wrote:
| I loved that from Warp too. Went back to iTerm because Warp was
| regularly consuming more than 1GB of RAM. I also don't want
| anything related to AI reading my terminal commands.
| pseudalopex wrote:
| The fish shell has multi line editing, completion explanations,
| and completion and history selection. Terminal integration
| could make these features even better. But Warp's account wall
| disqualified it for me.
| imagetic wrote:
| I really loved Warp during its earlier stages.
|
| They added so many things I couldn't keep up and I as just tired
| of updating it on launch every single day.
| rutierut wrote:
| I've been using Warp (for the AI features) for a while now, but
| less and less these days. They're way too agile with the UI/UX,
| things change around too much for it to be what it is supposed to
| be.
| bitwize wrote:
| Juicero for bash. And the pricing model changes doubtless right
| on time for the VC money to run out.
|
| Yep, I can smell shite.
| ahuth wrote:
| Unlike many comments here, I love Warp.
|
| Don't use or pay for any AI features. But it's really nice having
| a terminal with multi-cursor and keyboard shortcuts like an
| editor.
| Larrikin wrote:
| Yea all the AI features seem like a huge distraction to Warp. I
| hope they don't kill the terminal.
|
| Is there a terminal that offers this same experience,? All the
| comments here seem to be people crapping on it without trying
| it. it's really great for someone who develops but spends maybe
| only 5 percent of their time in the terminal for minor tasks
| bananapub wrote:
| props for not fucking around in the title or first few paragraphs
| about the consequences, but man was it a bad idea to give people
| the idea you're a per-month-fee terminal.
| daft_pink wrote:
| Am I missing something? $20 per month for a terminal?
|
| Why wouldn't you just use Ghostty and claude code?
| rlanday wrote:
| Claude Code also costs $20/month for the lowest paid tier.
| daft_pink wrote:
| I'm no against paying a subscription. I just don't quite
| understand the benefit of an ai terminal.
| bdcravens wrote:
| Like all products in the AI space today, it's a question of
| whether what it costs creates that much value each month. While
| it's not a force-multiplier in the same sense as Claude Code or
| Codex, I still think Warp is, even at $20, but that's probably
| pushing it (I've had months where I was able to speed run an
| unfamiliar workflow with Warp, and other months where I didn't
| use it for anything that iTerm couldn't handle)
| bigyabai wrote:
| For $20/month, I can buy a Claude Code subscription and have
| _it_ drive my terminal on autopilot. Tool calling in
| traditional LLMs might just obsolete Warp 's business model.
| cetinsert wrote:
| Just pay OpenAI, Anthropic, Google for your AI CLI tools and use
| ANY terminal - DONE.
|
| It is going to be way better than boutique integrations like
| Warp's, Cursor's, etc. anyway.
| gkbrk wrote:
| People really log in to their terminal emulator? And it's closed
| source and connected to the internet?
|
| My terminal emulator handles all sorts of confidential data,
| credentials, API keys etc. I can't even imagine the damage that
| can be caused by a rogue terminal emulator.
| slenk wrote:
| So my annual plan that renews in February - I am just going to
| whatever value is left if I want to switch to the build plan to
| bring my own key. Well shoot
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