[HN Gopher] If you don't tinker, you don't have taste
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       If you don't tinker, you don't have taste
        
       Author : jxmorris12
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2025-10-28 21:31 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | constantcrying wrote:
       | I despise the word "taste" for preferring specific software and
       | workflows. Why are you selecting for aesthetic experience over
       | usefulness?
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       | I do get satisfaction from the results of my work, not through
       | the mechanical process of arriving there. Tools are useful or not
       | and this is the category by which I decide to use them or not.
        
         | supportengineer wrote:
         | Not only that but a tool is only useful in a specific _context_
        
         | waynesonfire wrote:
         | Good for you, some people enjoy the journey.
        
         | IncreasePosts wrote:
         | Can the aesthetic experience improve usefulness? A million
         | years ago I had an MP3 player with all of my mp3s on it. I
         | listened to it every now and then. But when the iPod came out,
         | and I put my same MP3 library on there, I listened to it all
         | the time because it was super nice to use and interact with
        
       | paulcole wrote:
       | > Have you ever spent hours tweaking the mouse sensitivity in
       | your favorite FPS game?
       | 
       | Ah yes, the true shibboleth of taste-havers.
        
         | IncreasePosts wrote:
         | Maybe tinkering is a necessary but insufficient condition for
         | taste
        
       | andy99 wrote:
       | I'd like to tinker with that font, it burns my eyes to try and
       | read the words styled like that, maybe that's the intent?
        
         | jasonthorsness wrote:
         | the entire page has horizontal lines washed over it
        
         | jLaForest wrote:
         | I imagine the intent is to simulate the look of an old CRT
         | monitor
        
         | zzzeek wrote:
         | i am fascinated with that effect and turned off every CSS rule
         | on the page I could find but did not identify how you make that
         | effect
        
       | CuriouslyC wrote:
       | The irony of an article about taste displaying little of it.
        
         | scuff3d wrote:
         | Funny part is he points out at the end that it's highly
         | subjective...
         | 
         | I actually really liked the look of the blog. It gave me a
         | retro vibe, which is obviously what he was going for. But I'm
         | also reading on my phone. Maybe the choice was more annoying on
         | a larger screen.
        
       | killerstorm wrote:
       | I don't think "taste" in UI-adjacent things is important.
       | 
       | Tinkering habit is kind of important as even small interactions
       | help to build an internal model of how things work, how to
       | operate them, etc. And this model might generalize.
        
       | ambicapter wrote:
       | If anyone's wondering, author makes no attempt to demonstrate the
       | veracity of the title, he just talks about being a tinkerer and
       | why it's important to have taste nowadays, and lets the reader
       | make the connection.
        
         | johnfn wrote:
         | Ah yes, time for the daily article of the form "If you don't do
         | <thing I frequently do>, you aren't <a good person>"
        
       | kayodelycaon wrote:
       | What exactly does "taste" mean in this context? Taste is about
       | artistic quality. Aesthetics is _generally_ a tertiary concern
       | when it comes to software or hardware tinkering. That assumes it
       | 's a concern at all.
       | 
       | And while I'm talking about artistic quality on HN, I have to
       | take some obligatory potshots at the website in question. When I
       | have to use Safari's reader mode to see what you wrote, something
       | has gone terribly wrong.
        
       | saxelsen wrote:
       | I used to resonate with the word "taste" as a distinguishing
       | factor between good and bad quality, but a comment on HN some
       | months ago about one of the many blog posts that talks about
       | taste really nailed it:
       | 
       | "Taste" is just the degree to which two people value the same
       | things.
       | 
       | When someone is rated as having "good taste" it just means that
       | the person rating them values a lot of the same qualities.
       | 
       | The more I thought about it, the more that applies everywhere:
       | Food, wine, clothes, architecture, software design, etc.
        
         | andy99 wrote:
         | I understood "taste" here to mean opinions. It's not "good
         | taste" it's just "some taste". IMO there are many ways to
         | express taste that are not tinkering, such as preferentially
         | selecting things and my personal favourite, complaining :)
         | Nevertheless I think he means opinions rather than some
         | universally good taste.
        
       | SoftTalker wrote:
       | I used to tinker with fonts, colors, etc but as I've gotten older
       | I just accept the defaults in most things. You can waste any
       | number of hours on that stuff and in the end it makes very little
       | difference.
        
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