[HN Gopher] JetKVM - Control any computer remotely
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JetKVM - Control any computer remotely
Available for retail purchase: https://jetkvm.com/products
Author : elashri
Score : 229 points
Date : 2025-10-27 16:44 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| tmyrden wrote:
| Has been for close to a week now! Mine is already through
| Canadian customs after shipping from China. Purchased via Wisdpi.
|
| I think they opened sales the same day that GL.iNet announced
| their new cloud KVM.
| nati0n wrote:
| PiKVM seems to be the large competitor here and is completely
| open source. If you're looking into KVM solutions, probably check
| it out, but JetKVM is over 50% less, which is a huge argument in
| favor of it.
|
| https://pikvm.org
| yapyap wrote:
| JetKVM is over 50% less what?
| gessha wrote:
| Price.
| holysoles wrote:
| over 50% less the price, I see the JetKVM at $90 USD, but
| PiKVMs range from $230+.
|
| I found PiKVM useful as I already had the hardware laying
| around, so setting one up didn't cost me anything, and its a
| pretty good experience. If I were to buy new though, not sure
| I'd find it worth the cost for my use case.
| newsclues wrote:
| Tiny pilot is also an option
| mliezun wrote:
| Was gonna say the same thing, here: https://tinypilotkvm.com/
| pythonaut_16 wrote:
| Is it really $400 per host?
|
| Why would one pick a TinyPilot over NanoKVM or JetKVM?
| tripdout wrote:
| What justifies the V4 Plus being worth $350? They're using the
| CM4 so they've made a PCB, but what hardware are they adding
| over the peripherals available on a Pi 4/5? All I can tell is
| an additional Ethernet port, a SIM card tray, and an "ATX
| controller".
|
| What does the board look like, why can't I DIY that version,
| etc. Are they just trying to make it up with the software (that
| I also can't tell what it looks like).
| nerdsniper wrote:
| It's not really worth that much. You absolutely could DIY it,
| probably just kludge in a basic $30 HDMI capture card. Also
| JetKVM is now just as "open-source" as PiKVM is, so there's
| not even a moral high ground to spending extra. Both are
| open-source software but not open-source firmware or hardware
| (no schematics or gerbers or anything like that available).
| choilive wrote:
| I can buy 3 or 4 x JetKVMs for 1 PiKVM, pretty hard to justify
| going for PiKVM unless there is a PiKVM feature you need
| NelsonMinar wrote:
| The JetKVM is very impressive looking at a great price. Until
| recently it wasn't really available in the US but it looks like
| it is now/
|
| The V4 Mini is a very nice piece of hardware. I paid $300 for
| one in April from Amazon. I also got PiKVM running on a Pi Zero
| 2 W and it worked fine but was a bit squirrely. Having the
| purpose-built device is nice.
|
| You can also use a Pi Zero 2 W as a serial console: it has a
| USB On-the-Go port perfect for the purpose. But the KVM
| approach is more generally useful since you can access a
| consumer BIOS from it.
| iamtedd wrote:
| They recently opened a global store. Previously, the only way
| to get one was to "buy" it on kickstarter, presumably from
| the US as well as the rest of the world.
| Aurornis wrote:
| The JetKVM software is also open source:
| https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm
| breput wrote:
| Just a FYI - many people[0] (including myself) have had serious
| issues with JetKVM.
|
| In my case, I found it is not compatible with all HDMI sources
| but others just have unknown "Loading video stream..." issues.
|
| [0] https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm/issues/84
| ahepp wrote:
| It's difficult for me to tell how many of the issues in that
| thread are serious, because there also seem to be a surprising
| number of people who come back to say "I solved it by enabling
| h264 in my browser".
|
| On the other hand there are people who say "I ordered three,
| two work and one doesn't" which seems like pretty good evidence
| there can be real issues with the hardware.
| bradfitz wrote:
| I ordered three and they all worked and then one died.
| Fortunately they replaced it, though.
| woleium wrote:
| this doesn't seem ideal for a piece of hardware that may go
| in a remote location.
| _factor wrote:
| Ordered 2, one was fine, other required a reflash to resolve
| a black screen. Worked fine across a variety of SBCs and
| desktops since.
|
| Security is not top priority very obviously, but for a quick
| kvm on a system without bmc, it's fine. Picks up DHCP quickly
| and responsive web UI.
| hk1337 wrote:
| > people[0]
|
| I read that as you were selecting the first record from the
| people array
| nerdsniper wrote:
| I'm excited to take mine apart soon and figure out why this
| might be happening for those people.
| SmellTheGlove wrote:
| I've been using the glinet comet kvm for my homelab and have no
| complaints. Their cloud is optional and I don't use it. The
| built in tailscale client does what I need it to. I use it with
| their ATX power accessory to manage physical power on/off when
| needed.
|
| Given that these things have bare metal access, keeping them
| off of the public internet seems wise no matter what though.
| spockz wrote:
| Keeping these kind of management devices off the Internet
| seems prudent. But how do you do that and still get Tailscale
| to work? Assign the device to a separate vlan that is
| restricted to only talk to Tailscale? Otherwise, if the
| device is on your regular network, it will still be connected
| to the internet.
| mcsniff wrote:
| Use Tailscale subnet routing.
|
| Untrusted devices can sit on a separate VLAN or get WAN
| blocked, you can still reach them internally, and from any
| other device on Tailscale. You just need to expose the
| subnet via Tailscale subnet routing.
| awill wrote:
| From the specs it's very annoying this uses a mini-HDMI. There's
| room for a full HDMI port, and it's such a waste. We all have
| dozens of HDMI cables at home, but zero mini-HDMI.
| mynameisvlad wrote:
| Looking at the product itself, it looks like it barely squeezes
| the mini-HDMI externally as is, let alone then PCB/internal
| available space.
|
| I don't think there is, in fact, room for a full HDMI port.
| Mini HDMI is a compromise, and everyone knows it. It wouldn't
| have been included if full size HDMI was feasible.
| jonah wrote:
| The formfactor is self-imposed though, they could have made
| the device a few mm wider to accommodate a full HDMI port,
| but then it wouldn't be nice and square. Form over function
| maybe.
| rtkwe wrote:
| Mini-HDMI is fine for this use though and can just move
| with the item so it's not like you need to buy many.
| mynameisvlad wrote:
| The form factor is based on the Apple Watch screen they
| use, clearly.
| amelius wrote:
| I've been looking for something like this, but with a built in
| LTE modem.
|
| Also, where do you buy (IoT?) Sim cards cheaply, valid over
| entire continents or worldwide?
| gruez wrote:
| get a esim adapter (ie. euicc in sim card format), find a plan
| on https://esimdb.com/, load it onto the esim, and plug it into
| your iot device.
| spott wrote:
| Looks like they are coming: https://www.gl-
| inet.com/products/gl-rm10c4/?utm_source=websi...
| candiddevmike wrote:
| Why not combine the ATX board and the unit itself, and have a
| real HDMI port? This seems like a mess of cables and dongles.
| nullify88 wrote:
| Something like the NanoKVM-PCIe? I have both JetKVM and
| NanoKVM-PCIe, its nice to have options.
| candiddevmike wrote:
| Yea, just looked at this based on the recommendation in the
| other comment, it's exactly what I was looking for. Hopefully
| the software holds up/stays maintained...
| nullify88 wrote:
| I do think that JetKVM software is more polished, and has
| more frequent updates. Stuff like streaming images over the
| network is something that is handy.
|
| Nano KVM commits have stagnated a bit, but the form factor
| is really nice to have everything tucked away. I wish I
| could run JetKVM on the Nano KVM.
| rtkwe wrote:
| The KVM can be plugged into any system not just those with a
| spare PCI-e and you can move it around easier without having to
| bring systems down if you don't need the direct power control
| which is the main use case of the PCI-e board.
| dmitrygr wrote:
| I've been satisfied with NanoKVM lite. Cheap and does what i
| want.
| fotcorn wrote:
| I have the PCIe version of NanoKVM, and I am also happy with
| it.
|
| The big advantage of the PCIe version is that it does not take
| up space on the desk and all the cables for ATX power control
| an inside the PC case.
|
| Full-sized HDMI is nice, the only limitation here is 1080p
| resolution. 1440p or higher would allow mirroring the output on
| the main monitor to the NanoKVM, but this probably a weird use-
| case anyway.
| ahepp wrote:
| I've been really happy with my JetKVM. The tariff situation is
| unfortunate, my recollection is that it was something like $50
| during the kickstarter (could be wrong, didn't check). Looking
| around a bit, I'm not sure I see anything remotely as hackable at
| a competitive price, so maybe $90 is still a great deal.
|
| It would be awesome if they made a PoE version.
| 542458 wrote:
| > The tariff situation is unfortunate
|
| I wish there was a way of ordering from a non-US source so I
| didn't get hit. I'm not in the US, so it feels silly that I
| have to pay the American import tariffs on Chinese goods!
| nerdsniper wrote:
| I believe the $90 is "mostly" without the tariffs - it
| appears to be the updated post-Kickstarter price (which was
| $70). The iKoolCore distributor says:
|
| > US Tariff update: There are currently no additional
| tariffs, but this may change after November 1st. We'll ship
| your order promptly to help minimize the risk of tariffs,
| though we can't guarantee none will apply.
|
| I am in the USA and the unit I ordered from iKoolCore is
| being shipped to me from China. I have no idea how much more
| I might have to pay in tariffs once it arrives to customs, or
| how I will even go about paying those tariffs.
| gommm wrote:
| I've been using it since I got it. It's been working great with
| one small issue that I haven't been able to solve. For some
| reason when I use plasma on Arch linux (but not ubuntu), the
| display outputs garbage. I'm guessing it's not detecting the EDID
| correctly and setting a weird resolution or refresh rate. It's
| not a major issue since other desktop work well so I haven't
| spent much time looking into it.
| iamtedd wrote:
| I get that too on a machine running Mint Cinnamon. It also
| happens from the BIOS screen, so I don't think its a Linux
| issue. A re-plug fixes it, but that's not great for a remote
| access device.
| directmusic wrote:
| As others have said, a full size HDMI port would be nice.
| However, I've been very satisfied with my JetKVM. I was about to
| order the GL.iNet KVM they just launched, but I ended up picking
| up another JetKVM now that sales are open.
|
| My use-case is that I have it connected to an Raspberry Pi which
| I use to test the RPi builds of my application. I just ordered a
| second to connect to a mini-PC which is the minimum spec
| supported by my application. It has made my testing experience
| very smooth.
| ape4 wrote:
| I couldn't see if it could "press" the reset button.
| spogbiper wrote:
| there's this add on which allows it to do front panel/power
| stuff
|
| https://jetkvm.com/products/atx-extension-board
| rtkwe wrote:
| They made an add on board that you wire between your case
| buttons and the header on your motherboard so you can than then
| 'press' any of the buttons.
| somanyphotons wrote:
| I wish there was a KVM out there that didn't need HDMI, where it
| sat on PCIe bus and presented a really dumb framebuffer/kb/mouse
| to the BIOS/OS, but sent it out over the network
| brokensegue wrote:
| or that just connected over usb and acted as a usb display
| adapter
| spogbiper wrote:
| afaik usb isn't an option for bios/preboot display. so only
| useful if the thing is booting up OK enough to run a usb
| display driver
| wtallis wrote:
| USB-C in DisplayPort Alt mode plus USB 2.0 signalling for
| the keyboard and mouse inputs is starting to be a pretty
| common option on consumer systems. Capturing that would
| allow remote control of a PC including the BIOS using a
| single cable (though a second cable would still be needed
| for connecting to a desktop motherboard's header for power
| and reset buttons).
|
| I think there just aren't as many options for DisplayPort
| capture chips as for HDMI/DVI capture.
| nullify88 wrote:
| Something like Intel AMT? Some prosumer motherboards like
| ASRock Rack have out of band management controllers in them.
| fotta wrote:
| annoyingly, AMT still requires me to have a dummy HDMI dongle
| plugged in to work
| nerdsniper wrote:
| Yes - but a bolt-on solution for nearly any motherboard with
| an extra PCIe or NVMe slot.
| mbreese wrote:
| I've seen raspberry pi based kvms that do just this - draw
| power from PCI to operate. Except they still usually
| require a cable to HDMI/USB ports on the computer. I
| suspect you'd like to have the whole thing to be on card
| without cables.
|
| Example: https://geekworm.com/collections/pikvm (but I
| think this still requires separate power)
|
| To do this, wouldn't you effectively need to make a
| graphics card (VGA would work) where a separate chip could
| read the screen buffer? And somehow get this card to
| display preferentially over the on-board video card?
|
| I'm sure the all in one card version exists, but honestly a
| cabled version seems more robust (w/o vendor support that
| is).
| toast0 wrote:
| > To do this, wouldn't you effectively need to make a
| graphics card (VGA would work) where a separate chip
| could read the screen buffer? And somehow get this card
| to display preferentially over the on-board video card?
|
| If you do basic VGA (and UEFI), that'd be plenty for
| most. If it had a local output it'd be great for systems
| without video on the cpu (am4 non-apus, but also others)
| ohnoesjmr wrote:
| Teradici is that, but too expensive for home users.
| nerdsniper wrote:
| It looks like I can find Teradici card for $50-200 (used to
| new), which is in a similar range as the JetKVM. However,
| according to the installation manual that I found [0], you
| still need to plug in the DisplayPort connector on the
| Teradici host card to the GPU output port(s).
|
| 0: https://anyware.hp.com/web-
| help/pcoip_remote_workstation_car...
| nerdsniper wrote:
| Yeah there are sort of some BMC/IPMI options like [0] but all
| of the ones I've seen still require some kind of special
| (generally proprietary) internal connector on the motherboard,
| which might not be "HDMI" exactly, but still violates the
| spirit of your requirements.
|
| 0: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-
| software/thin...
| downrightmike wrote:
| Lights out kvm
| tencentshill wrote:
| That seems to be one of their products
|
| https://jetkvm.com/products/atx-extension-board
| dymk wrote:
| That's not what that is
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _JetKVM - Control any computer remotely_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42986909 - Feb 2025 (1
| comment)
|
| _JetKVM Source_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42553822
| - Dec 2024 (1 comment)
|
| _JetKVM - Next generation open-source KVM over IP for $69_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42313894 - Dec 2024 (2
| comments)
|
| _JetKVM: Tiny IP KVM That 's Not an Apple Watch_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41957056 - Oct 2024 (14
| comments)
| systems wrote:
| I know this might sound naive but for those of us who had to
| google
|
| kvm here mean keyboard video and mouse, not the linux kernel-
| based virtual machine kvm
|
| this device apparently is used to connect to machines remotely
| over IP
| layer8 wrote:
| People familiar with KVM switches have the reverse issue with
| the Linux kernel thing. ;)
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45706866#45713054
| RicoElectrico wrote:
| Likewise with DRM.
| bigbuppo wrote:
| Digital Radio Mondiale?
| technothrasher wrote:
| Being a nerdy kid in the 80's, I can't see the acronym MCP
| without thinking, "You're in trouble program. Why don't you
| make it easy on yourself. Who's your user?"
| btschaegg wrote:
| Well that one at least has appreciable parallels :)
|
| Letting an LLM loose on a real system without containing
| it in a sandbox sounds about as predictably disastrous as
| letting a glorified chess program run all ENCOM
| operations...
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| And your mom who grew up in the 1960s might have yet
| another interpretation in mind (
| https://www.ebay.com/itm/305272862225 ). MCP is
| definitely an overloaded acronym at this point.
| technothrasher wrote:
| Well, my mom was in her mid-twenties by the time that
| phrase came into usage, but point still well taken.
| rtkwe wrote:
| The virtualization KVM is the new kid to the block. Back in the
| day the best way to get multiple machines controlled was to
| just have multiple machines sharing the same monitor, keyboard
| and mouse.
| deepsun wrote:
| I thought that was RDS (remote desktop).
| trenchpilgrim wrote:
| RDP is over network, which doesn't work well if your need to
| access a machine that doesn't have a working network stack
| because you're troubleshooting a hardware failure, early boot
| failure, OS provisioning, etc.
|
| KVM can also be nicer than RDP for certain multi-box
| workstation setups that need high bandwidth and low latency.
| cleech wrote:
| Classic TCP (TLA [Three Letter Acronym] Collision Problem)
| dingdingdang wrote:
| I'm mildly confused as to the value over, say RustDesk. The
| latter allows remote control of external machines and has ip
| hole punching .. no hardware involved! Any takes here?
| zamadatix wrote:
| RustDesk is an alternative to other remote desktop software,
| JetKVM is an alternative to a built-in IPMI. It could be used
| as a remote desktop in a pinch, but that's not really the
| point.
| lawrencegripper wrote:
| Have 2 of these for my homelab with the power management
| extension and they've been great, would recommend
| chelmzy wrote:
| Don't use these on your corporate devices or the infosec
| department will think you are a DPRK remote worker.
| jauntywundrkind wrote:
| No out of the box TailScale but it's 'easy to add.'
|
| WebRTC is neat. It looks like it relies on CloudFlare WebRTC
| relay for STUN / TURN, but supposedly you can self-host the cloud
| api. https://jetkvm.com/docs/networking/remote-access
|
| I'd also point out the gl.inet Comet Pro, which has some nice to
| haves like wifi 6, full sized HDMI ports, HDMI and USB pass
| through. https://www.gl-inet.com/campaign/gl-rm10/
|
| The PiKVM approach of having a whole computer you can also use
| makes so much sense to me. Interesting seeing similar parallels
| in NAS space, where Ugreen for example is running Debian on their
| NAS.
| Sean-Der wrote:
| Hopefully you are in a network that allows P2P! Then STUN just
| works and you can use any of the public servers (CloudFlare,
| Google, Twilio...)
|
| Running your own TURN server would be trivial also. I have been
| tempted for a long time to make a 'TURN in a Box' that does
| autoconfig so people can run it easily on Hetzner/AWS
| dangerboysteve wrote:
| I picked up one from the kickstarter campaign. It's a wonderful,
| well-made device and open-source to boot. I plan to buy more.
| nixosbestos wrote:
| If Sipeed had any idea how to run a product or software, the
| NanoKVM line would eat this alive.
|
| Fortunately, Sipeed is like most other chinese manufacturers and
| have no idea what they're doing. Did they partner with Manjaro
| for that one? I don't think the Manjaro folks are even that
| incompetent.
| crims0n wrote:
| Please forgive my ignorance, but what advantage does this have
| over RDP/VNC?
| dmd wrote:
| RDP/VNC don't work when the computer is off. Or the computer's
| network card is down.
| pythonaut_16 wrote:
| Operates at a hardware level, separate from the target machine
| rather than software in the OS.
|
| With RDP/VNC what do you do if the machine fails to boot? Or
| RDP stops working for some reason and you can't SSH in?
|
| Or for installing a headless OS on a new machine.
|
| I'm sure there are more specific usecases as well but that's
| what I mainly use remote KVM devices for at home.
| mlapida wrote:
| A few things: 1/ the system doesn't need to be connected to a
| network, or can be on a private/secured network. 2/ You can
| make changes to BIOS and other elements of the system that the
| OS can't "see". 3/ If the system is sleeping or shutdown,
| JetKVM can send a wake-on-LAN signal/magic packet.
|
| I'd say for many use cases, it's not better than RDP/VNC, but
| if you're looking access that is independent of the network and
| state of the system, JetKVM can't be beat.
| crims0n wrote:
| Ah, this use case makes the most sense to me - thank you kind
| stranger.
| burnt-resistor wrote:
| Add-on, almost lights-out remote management.
|
| Without lights-out management, eventually physical access to
| power cycle will be needed.
|
| For systems people care about, they already have BMC
| (Supermicro), iLO (HP), iDRAC (Dell) controllers.
|
| Anything that can capture HDMI and spit it securely over a wire
| without some cloud-dependency bullshit, present "virtual USB"
| or input over the network, and close a RST circuit momentarily
| would do the job. The problem is, in the name of consumerishism
| and convenience, none of these home-gamer "solutions" have been
| independently audited that I know of by any reputable firm. (A
| competitor, NanoKVM, is known to be shady AF downloading
| serialized binary crap. It talks to tailscale without user
| permission, communication, or approval. Never use it for
| anything.) Don't trust something simply because there's press
| release or social media hype about it. I have to endure
| constant Cloudflare CAPTCHAs because it's probable that a large
| fraction of other customers on my ISP have pwned IoT (cameras,
| doorbells, whizbang startup weather station, etc.) DDoSing and
| hacking the rest of the world.
|
| PSA: For the love of the sysadmin gods, please don't use
| desktops as servers. ECC RAM, HA, duty cycle, lights out
| management, and vendor support are completely different beasts
| compared to retail gear.
|
| For non-lights-out, host-based remote desktop that can be self-
| hosted, RustDesk is able to work locally without relaying to
| any clouds. And using WG (non-TS) for "VPN"/remote network
| bridging, that's a pretty compelling option. I haven't yet
| checked if it can work in an air-gapped environment but I think
| it might work; but if it doesn't, that would be sad.
| Greed wrote:
| I might be missing something, but what does this do that an app
| like AnyDesk doesn't? Is there something inherently better about
| remoting in with dedicated hardware rather than using any of the
| free and widely available software solutions? I can see where
| this would make sense for low powered machines that can't easily
| encode video at high speeds / low latency, but I struggle to see
| the sense of this in a context where I actually want video output
| (a powerful workstation) rather than just SSH.
| woleium wrote:
| it's useful to be able to get into the bios for remote support
| situations of critical servers, I guess
| cjm42 wrote:
| I believe the primary use-case for devices like this is
| debugging "Why isn't this server rebooting?" without driving to
| the datacenter. Good luck figuring that out with AnyDesk or
| SSH.
| layer8 wrote:
| It doesn't require the OS on the target hardware to be running,
| and no other software can get in the way. It can also connect
| via a separate network than the one the computer is on (if
| any).
| IvyMike wrote:
| > what does this do that an app like AnyDesk doesn't
|
| Work when the network config on that particular computer is
| down/borked.
| neilv wrote:
| Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM.
|
| But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs
| the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone,
| nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much
| this product needs to be trusted.
|
| Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site...
| Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in
| Berlin, and who also share a principal company, BuildJet, which
| Crunchbase says is based in Estonia. The product reportedly ships
| from Shenzhen. BuildJet apparently is a YC company, but
| BuildJet's Web site has very similar lack of info identifying
| anyone or their location, again despite the high level of trust
| required for this product.
|
| Are corporate customers who are putting these products into
| positions of serious trust -- into their CI, and remote access to
| inside their infrastructure -- doing any kind of vetting? When
| the official Web sites have zero information about who this is,
| are the customers getting the information some other way, before
| purchasing and deploying?
|
| If these people are still running the companies, why aren't they
| or anyone else mentioned on the company Web sites? That would be
| helpful first step for trust for corporate use. So its absence is
| odd.
| delusional wrote:
| I don't think this is nearly at the stage of "corporate
| customers putting into serious trust"
|
| Buildjet (the parent company) looks to be a pretty small
| company with currently modest revenue[1]. I agree that the
| absence of people on both webpages is sort of odd. I think it
| make more sense for their original service (CI workers) than it
| does for a hardware product.
|
| https://ariregister.rik.ee/eng/company/16075023/Buildjet-O%C...
| trenchpilgrim wrote:
| I think products like JetKVM are targeting hobbyists and small
| outfits; corporations who aren't on a public cloud are using
| stuff like idrac, ilo, or dedicated rackmount KVM hardware.
| echo7394 wrote:
| IDrac often demands that the PC connecting to it be on the
| same network however, an rkvm like this let's you skip the
| pc-in-the-middle step.
| trenchpilgrim wrote:
| Fine for one or two machines, but if you're dealing with a
| rack or more, an extra machine for management tools is no
| big deal.
| neilv wrote:
| True. Small outfits can be a pretty big category of companies
| that don't have a fully locked-down enterprise security
| environment with clout who can insist that everything like
| that racked and put under their control.
|
| Homelabbers tend to like rackmount. (I've owned multiple
| servers with such dedicated remote management/access hardware
| built in.)
|
| JetKVM seems designed to be more a shadow IT at individual
| desks solution, for use at companies that don't prohibit and
| actively police that.
| pseudalopex wrote:
| Home lab is a subset of hobbyists. And many of them like
| mini PCs.
| mike_d wrote:
| The target market does not alleviate any concerns. Consumer
| grade hardware is used to build botnets and residential proxy
| networks. The latter could be used to get into your employer
| if they happen to have credentials and want to match your
| home IP to avoid detection.
| hsbauauvhabzb wrote:
| Implying idrac, ilo and similar are somehow reputable?
| otterley wrote:
| There's no way to know for sure, since they are closed-
| source and closed-hardware implementations. But they are
| backed by billion-dollar companies that lawyers can squeeze
| if they cause some sort of legally cognizable injury.
| godelski wrote:
| > targeting hobbyists and small outfits
|
| Sounds like a great botnet!
|
| I'm joking a bit but these are exactly the entities that have
| fewer capabilities to detect malicious behavior.
|
| Assuming JetKVM is operating in full good faith that doesn't
| mean they themselves aren't going to be the target. You
| compromise them and you compromise all their customers.
| That's true regardless of the company size, but is also the
| reason for transparency
| Joel_Mckay wrote:
| It does share similarity to a rebranded Sipeed NanoKVM model
| already sold in China.
|
| Would have to dump the flash with proper tooling, and load up a
| clean OS on a blank chip to even begin checking for issues.
| Mostly, these gadgets are purposely built like garbage for a
| number of reasons.
|
| If I needed a DIY KVM install for a home-theater, I'd just
| setup a https://pikvm.org/ install. =)
|
| https://github.com/pikvm/pikvm/
| trenchpilgrim wrote:
| For those prices I could buy an old PC to do out of band
| management and have over half the money left over. The appeal
| of JetKVM/NanoKVM is they're price competitive with an extra
| PC for a tiny fraction of the physical and power footprint.
| gcommer wrote:
| For feature parity, the old PC will require USB OTG, HDMI
| input, wiring for ATX control, and a software stack.
| Joel_Mckay wrote:
| Sipeed makes a PCIe KVM card for around $80 that drops
| into standard PC cases.
|
| I'd assume it runs off the 5v standby power when the
| primary ATX supply is sleeping. =3
|
| https://github.com/sipeed/NanoKVM?tab=readme-ov-file
| Joel_Mckay wrote:
| A pi4 is $35 + parts, and can do a PXE server as well...
| but it is the OS/kernel upkeep that always hits proprietary
| devices.
|
| Small recycled PCs can certainly work too, and reminds me
| of the https://guacamole.apache.org/ project. =3
| XiS wrote:
| This guy on YouTube made several videos reviewing these and
| also doing some WireShark analysis, also on NanoKVM.
|
| Personally I'd never use these on an interned facing network.
| But they can still be handy for local only.
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhdTRVvDFU&pp=0gcJCQYKAYcqIYz...
| Y_Y wrote:
| Estonia is (trying to be) the Delaware of the EU for companies.
| They make it deliberately convenient for any Europeans to
| incorporate there, so I wouldn't read much into that.
| gcommer wrote:
| This is why I recently went with a PiKVM. Pricier and clunkier
| but much more open and transparent.
| mfrye0 wrote:
| If you do this sort of thing often, I'd love to chat further.
| I'm basically trying to automate this sort of manual research
| around companies with a library of deep research APIs.
|
| Had a show HN last week that seemed to go under the radar:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45671087
|
| We launched corporate hierarchy research and working on UBO
| now. From the corporate hierarchy standpoint, it looks like the
| Delaware entity fully owns the Estonian entity. Auto generated
| mermaid diagram from the deep research: graph
| TD e1[BuildJet, Inc.]-->|100%, 2022-12-16|e2[Buildjet
| OU]
| embedding-shape wrote:
| If you want to feature a governance structure infamously hard
| to get right and impressive to use as an demo, IKEA/Ingka
| would be an good example.
| RajT88 wrote:
| This is cool. JetKVM seems really popular on my homelab groups,
| but I use something similar called Aurga for my personal stuff.
|
| I don't see anyone in this thread using Aurga. It's not as good
| as RDP or physically being in front of the machine, but it's good
| enough.
| nickphx wrote:
| I have an aurga. I've found their client software to be
| lacking.
| karteum wrote:
| I have happily used nanokvm
| (https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/kvm/NanoKVM_Pro/introduc...
| ).
|
| (N.b. unfortunately the ATX board cannot be ordered
| independently, so be sure to order the "nanokvm-full" package)
| karolist wrote:
| I love this little thing. In case someone uses ESRack system,
| here's the bracket I designed you can print
| https://www.printables.com/model/1359418-esrack-module-jetkv...
| GaryBluto wrote:
| >Join our Discord
|
| Nothing instils faith in a product like using a gaming chatroom
| populated by tweens for communication.
| nodesocket wrote:
| I got tired of waiting for JetKVM availability in the US and
| pulled the trigger on a GL.iNet Comet PoE. A bit more expensive
| on Amazon ($110) but supports PoE which the JetKVM does not.
| Honestly, it has worked great. I know the earlier Comet firmware
| had some issues, but apparently they fixed it up and it has been
| solid.
| tamimio wrote:
| The cringe thumbnails in the videos in the homepage and having
| discord for communication is enough for me to NOT use it or try
| it.
| greenavocado wrote:
| My company runs on GL.iNet Comet GL-RM1 KVMs to manage servers
| deployed at remote customer sites and I'm about to deploy more
| tomorrow
| burnt-resistor wrote:
| "GL Technologies (HK) Ltd & GL Intelligence, Inc & Shenzhen
| GuangLianZhiTong Tech Co.Ltd"
|
| Since there's no independent audit of these and no way to prove
| that these aren't being intercepted, I wouldn't be bragging
| about voluntarily installing potential infrastructure
| vulnerabilities.
| rat87 wrote:
| Since people are saying this software doesn't have enough
| time/known contributors for trust who would people recommend for
| remote control of say a parents laptop for remote IT support.
| Preferably $0 and open source but others as well
| syntaxing wrote:
| For what its worth, GL inet released something similar
| https://www.gl-inet.com/campaign/gl-rm10/?utm_source=website...
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