[HN Gopher] Recall for Linux
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Recall for Linux
Author : anticensor
Score : 495 points
Date : 2025-10-27 07:24 UTC (15 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| anticensor wrote:
| Recall is not a reverse RDP capture.
| GianFabien wrote:
| This is an app I will not be installing.
| rplnt wrote:
| Exactly, it will be installed for you!
| deafpolygon wrote:
| Someone else will take care of that minor detail for you!
| phs318u wrote:
| I thought this was a serious take for a second (until I looked at
| microsoft_recall_linux.exe - lol).
|
| Having said that, I would actually be keen for something similar
| that is both open-source and totally local so that I could use
| the output as AI fodder (for a local inference model of course).
| theblazehen wrote:
| https://github.com/mediar-ai/screenpipe is promising, however
| it has some issues with my setup. I'm personally just dumping
| all the data with ffmpeg + x11grab, will figure out what I want
| to do with it later
| skerit wrote:
| Windows & macos only though. "linux support coming soon" has
| been on that website forever.
| theblazehen wrote:
| That's for the fancy GUI. Basic "capture and dump to disk"
| is supported on Linux with the cli version
| RobotToaster wrote:
| Same.
|
| I have a terrible memory so a totally local ai that knows
| everything I do would actually be useful.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| That's the biggest problem I have with Recall. Not that the
| idea or functionality is bad, but that the probability that
| the company behind it will abuse it is so large that it's not
| worth the risk.
|
| If the system worked fully locally, didn't come from
| Apple/Microsoft/Google/Facebook/etc., and had decent data
| isolation, I would probably turn it on.
|
| Unfortunately I find that getting basic OCR to work reliably
| on Linux is a challenge in itself compared to Windows' APIs
| and quality of OCR results, so I doubt an honest, well-
| intentioned implementation will make it to Linux.
| ValdikSS wrote:
| When I was working in audits, I used to record everything
| happening on my screen with 3 fps and then rewatching it with
| 10x speed, just not to forget anything.
|
| When Recall was announced, I was in minority who thought it was
| super cool technology.
| XorNot wrote:
| There's nothing wrong with the concept, but if it's not local
| with you in total control of the data then it's also just a
| no go.
| noir_lord wrote:
| > I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology.
|
| The technology can be cool while still be a horrific idea
| because of the implementation and privacy implications.
| compsciphd wrote:
| the privacy implications are really no worse than people
| who have a web browser cache/history, use a password
| manager, and have their entire email/message history
| available for offline perusal on their computer/device.
|
| just like an attacker can go after the recall data, they
| can go after those well known sources of data as well,
| which are generally not encrypted.
|
| Which is why, for example, the changes signal made to
| prevent recall from working when it was visible, were pure
| virtue signalling. By default signal on the PC keeps all
| messages sent available in a db that any attacker can
| easily download.
|
| The entire criticism aimed at recall ignored all the other
| ways this data is stored on one's PC.
| meowface wrote:
| As long as it's stored and processed locally, I don't
| really see the implications being that much worse than
| someone getting all your local IRC/IM/email logs. (Those or
| their equivalents are stored in the cloud nowadays but
| disregard that for now for the sake of argument.)
| mschuster91 wrote:
| > As long as it's stored and processed locally
|
| Anything stored locally can be exfiltrated by malware.
| Run OCR on the archives, check when someone opens their
| password manager, copy and exfiltrate the password.
|
| Oh and partners, ex-partners and children can also abuse
| such data. Even if you clear your browsing history,
| forget about clearing the Recall cache and whoops, they
| can see your browsing habits post-facto.
|
| Employers and law enforcement agencies are another bad
| actor that's to guard against. Even if laws such as GDPR
| or employee safety regulations prohibit companies from
| screenrecording, there's not much stopping them from
| using a feature Microsoft tries its hardest to prevent
| people from opting out of.
| 63stack wrote:
| It has been over a decade that big tech has been playing
| this script:
|
| * Introduce a feature that is abysmal for user privacy
|
| * Promise it's okay because $reasons
|
| * Make the feature opt-out
|
| * Change the EULA so that $reasons are no longer
| applicable/valid
|
| * Roll out an update that "accidentally" turns the
| feature back on for everyone
|
| * Apologize, deny, divert, deflect
|
| * Siphon off all that sweet sweet user data
|
| Rinse and repeat. Get away with it every time. People
| still go "oh I don't see the problem, they said
| $reasons". This time "it's stored locally". Until it
| won't.
| kccqzy wrote:
| You are merely objecting to Microsoft being the developer
| behind Recall. Great I don't fault you for that. But now
| consider hypothetically what if the Linux Foundation
| developed and announced Recall?
| 63stack wrote:
| The linux foundation would introduce this is an optional
| thing you can download, with documentation on how it
| works, and where you can find the source. Within 3 days
| the community would make self hosted servers for it.
|
| They are not known for siphoning user data through dark
| patterns, so there is nothing to object from me. If they
| were to try it the same underhanded way as microsoft, I'd
| be just as much against it.
| embedding-shape wrote:
| > As long as it's stored and processed locally
|
| If it was any other company than Microsoft, I might have
| agreed with you that it's fine as long as those things
| happen.
|
| But if history is any indication of the future, as soon
| as the tool gets popular, Microsoft will try to claw back
| whatever data it can about it's users, or add Pro
| features only available to signed up Microsoft users who
| pay, or something similar.
|
| I think many of us have been burned by these companies
| doing bait-and-switch so many times, that it's almost
| impossible to not see the writing on the wall here and
| even spend five minutes trying it out.
|
| I much rather wait for the inevitable (serious) FOSS
| clone that will be safer to use instead.
| noir_lord wrote:
| > I much rather wait for the inevitable (serious) FOSS
| clone that will be safer to use instead.
|
| Yep - though I've no interest in a tool like Recall (I
| don't really see the point, it doesn't do anything for me
| I'd want) I do understand that others may feel
| differently but even if I did want it, I'd wait for the
| FOSS version as well.
| esseph wrote:
| The equivalent of screenscraping passwords, API keys,
| etc.
| LauraMedia wrote:
| I think there is a difference between "I can audit the code,
| it's encrypted, I want to run this and want to use this" and
| "Microsoft installs it, it's not encrypted and wants to turn
| it on by default, potentially sharing data to them soon(tm)"
| ksynwa wrote:
| The technology is cool. It's microsoft that's not. Tools like
| this already existed on Mac.
| embedding-shape wrote:
| > When Recall was announced, I was in minority who thought it
| was super cool technology.
|
| I think almost every serious computer professional want
| something like Recall, I don't think you were in the minority
| at all.
|
| But the amount of people who want the least security-minded
| company of probably all time to manage that software, and for
| that program to ignore the last three decades of
| security/privacy methodologies, is probably something way
| less people want, and is why Recall is being shit on.
|
| If a non-profit managed it, it had a security/privacy-first
| mindset/goals, and was run by non-Microsoft people, I think
| it could be a really useful tool.
| andrepd wrote:
| Like several modern pieces of technology, it would in fact be
| "super cool" if only it ran locally and respected your
| privacy, and if it weren't in fact just a paper-thin excuse
| for massive and constant surveillance.
| Citizen_Lame wrote:
| That's what people crave.
| mnmalst wrote:
| It kinda IS a working solution tho. recall-for-linux.exe is
| just a bash script that does this in a loop. :)
|
| grim - | tee ~/.recall/$(date "+%Y-%m-%dT%H-%M-%S").png |
| tesseract stdin stdout 2>/dev/null >~/.recall/$(date
| "+%Y-%m-%dT%H-%M-%S").log
| loutr wrote:
| It's a joke yes but it does work, in a really crude way. The
| exe is actually a short bash script, it takes a screenshot
| every 5 seconds, feeds it to tesseract (OCR) and dumps the
| result in ~/.recall.
| geocar wrote:
| > I would actually be keen for something similar that is both
| open-source and totally local
|
| Did you _actually_ look at it? Or just look _at_ it? Because it
| is actually open-source and totally local. #
| ... nonsense while true; do grim - | tee
| ~/.recall/$(date "+%Y-%m-%dT%H-%M-%S").png | tesseract stdin
| stdout 2>/dev/null >~/.recall/$(date "+%Y-%m-%dT%H-%M-%S").log
| # ... other nonsense done
|
| I think all the nonsense/emojis are supposed to be funny, but
| that actually does the thing. Replace "tesseract" with whatever
| local AI you want; replace grim with some other screenshotting
| tool if you like.
|
| I've done something like this for over a decade (although I
| have a diff that deletes duplicate frames) and I like to
| partition by date (do that "T" becomes a "/") because that
| makes other things easier, but my script isn't _much_ more
| complicated than that.
| raphman wrote:
| There is/was https://github.com/selfspy/selfspy (not updated in
| 10 years).
| guardian5x wrote:
| With all the emojis in the source code, one can instantly
| recognize it as AI slop. :)
| blensor wrote:
| I thought that at first too until I read the first bullet point
|
| " Stores all you sensitive data "
|
| That's a grammar error I don't expect an LLM to make?
| alias_neo wrote:
| There are a couple more in the README too.
|
| It's not impossible that an AI was asked to sprinkle in a few
| typos for effect, but perhaps it really is just written by a
| person who really loves emojis.
| blensor wrote:
| Maybe they wanted to intentionally make it look like AI as
| an added pun
| aitchnyu wrote:
| I've seen major React ecosystem packages with emoji readmes
| nearly 10 years back. Your super serious bank app may have
| emoji in their bundle.
| RonanSoleste wrote:
| A must have for every linux user that reads carefully
| mrasong wrote:
| LOL, can't believe a Linux app turned out to be an .exe file.
| cestith wrote:
| The shebang line doesn't care about your filename.
| hulitu wrote:
| > LOL, can't believe a Linux app turned out to be an .exe file.
|
| To be more "native" shall have the extension com or lnk.
| user2722 wrote:
| I know this is satire, but there is actually one and one you
| actually control. May be useful to remember who said what and
| where. It can be useful. Just not the way a megacorp implements
| it.
|
| Here it is [unaffiliated, untested by me, unvetted]:
| https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall
| athrowaway3z wrote:
| For all that it is satire, it is a lot more functional than you
| might realize at first glance.
|
| https://github.com/rolflobker/recall-for-linux/blob/e16382f0...
| syntaxing wrote:
| Judging from the code, I'm pretty sure this is generated by
| AI
| javcasas wrote:
| Microsoft claims 30% of their code is now written by AI. So
| right on point.
| bogwog wrote:
| Why? Because of the emojis? Normally I'd agree, except in
| this case it seems like part of the joke.
| IshKebab wrote:
| Ah nice. I was hoping this was real - just yesterday someone
| was asking about something and I knew I had written up a
| description of it but couldn't remember where - Mattermost?
| GitHub Gist? Random text file? Confluence? Turned out to be
| Stackoverflow, but it took me quite a while to find it.
|
| Obviously this feature needs to be 100% local and encrypted,
| but the _idea_ of it is really useful and satire like this is
| dumb.
| zenoprax wrote:
| Lacks Wayland support unfortunately.
|
| For just screen recording you can use
| https://git.dec05eba.com/gpu-screen-recorder
|
| It's 10+ GB per 8 hours based on some testing I did. Could be
| useful for short term uses like tracing some technical
| troubleshooting or pulling screenshots for documentation.
| w4rh4wk5 wrote:
| What issue did you run into? It's using grim for capturing
| the screen.
| utrack wrote:
| I don't see any results on KDE Wayland; a (fairly old) open
| issue: https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall/issues/10
|
| ---
|
| mss.exception.ScreenShotError: XGetImage() failed
| jandrese wrote:
| Yeah, Wayland leaves this up to the compositors, and the
| compositors never bothered to implement it.
| ctm92 wrote:
| It's an actual useful feature, it's just the tracking by
| microsoft that makes it meh.
|
| I also track my activities with ActivityWatch (Open Source,
| https://activitywatch.net/) to remember missing time entries
| for billing clients. It's all local, so perfectly fine.
| tonnydourado wrote:
| This alternative is still storing the screenshots and the OCRed
| content unencrypted, and the web UI is also unauthenticated.
|
| There's some docs on storing the data in an encrypted volume or
| external drive, but 99% of people ain't doing that.
|
| The only real improvement over MS's version is keeping the data
| local, which ain't much, really.
| ladyanita22 wrote:
| > The only real improvement over MS's version is keeping the
| data local, which ain't much, really.
|
| That's already a lot.
| lzzzam wrote:
| simply thank you, I was missing all those features
| ccakes wrote:
| Mac only but if you want a local only version of this (which has
| been mentioned in other comments), Dayflow[1] looks decent. I
| think I'd actually love something like this but can't quite bring
| myself to run it.. even with local models
|
| [1] https://github.com/JerryZLiu/Dayflow
| Xx_crazy420_xX wrote:
| Nice, I did not know about that. I've built something similar
| (https://github.com/Srakai/aw-llm-worker) on top of
| ActivityWatch (https://github.com/ActivityWatch/activitywatch)
| noir_lord wrote:
| For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a
| PC with a Microsoft OS on _anywhere_ (I dual boot my main desktop
| since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is
| getting binned.
|
| Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure
| I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never
| asked it to do.
|
| Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.
|
| Been running windows/linux alongside each other since the late
| 90's and outside of gaming my computing life is linux (even my TV
| is connected to a fedora box) so not a hard switch.
| teekert wrote:
| The value MS gains from milking to non technical people for all
| they're worth outweighs the loss of the occasional tech savvy
| user.
|
| And sadly I think MS are still far from the tipping point and
| it will get worse and worse for some time to come.
|
| The only thing the non-techies have is the law to protect them.
| moi2388 wrote:
| I disagree. Tech people shape governmental IT policies. You
| already see some governments in the EU moving away from
| Microsoft.
|
| Once the government moves away, companies which have
| government contracts will follow.
|
| I think the dominoes are starting to fall.
| anonymous908213 wrote:
| This is irrelevant to consumer adoption. The Chinese
| government uses their own Linux-based OS, which should be a
| common-sense national security policy, and it would
| certainly be a good idea for the rest of the world's
| governments to catch up and not rely on a US for-profit
| corporation. But even in China, 99% of regular people are
| using Windows.
|
| The dominoes really aren't going anywhere. The average
| consumer has an extremely high tolerance for security and
| privacy violations, which is why the state of the market is
| the way it is, completely dominated by companies that are
| the antithesis of security and privacy. If a service offers
| utility to them, nothing else matters. And Windows offers a
| tremendous amount of utility to the average consumer
| relative to Linux. The things the general public cares
| about are not the same things anyone who uses this website
| cares about.
| avhception wrote:
| While I think you're mostly right, I disagree with the
| "tremendous utility [...] relative to Linux". My
| relatives are certainly no users of this website, and yet
| they get all the utility they need out of Linux. They
| don't care about the OS, they mostly just want to use a
| browser and a few other tasks that work perfectly fine
| with their Debian installs.
| drnick1 wrote:
| > The average consumer has an extremely high tolerance
| for security and privacy violations
|
| Absolutely, or Facebook/Instagram/Whatsapp and similar
| "apps" wouldn't be nearly as successful.
| franciscop wrote:
| I've directly moved at least 3 people out of Windows, and
| indirectly I'd guess at least a dozen. If all of us techies
| did the same, it'd be over pretty soon.
| noir_lord wrote:
| I've no one left to convert, my mums been running Linux
| since ~2016 when I got tired of her breaking windows (and
| in fairness it was her doing it most of the time) so I
| switched her to mint.
|
| Her only requirement for her new computer is "it has to run
| that minty thing?" (it's actually running Fedora and has
| been for quite a while but that's the nice thing - she
| doesn't need to know or _care_ ) - it's still the same for
| her either way.
| a456463 wrote:
| Same. My inlaws be rockin' ebay refurb lenovos with
| fedora for 6 years now
| avhception wrote:
| My score so far: 5 people directly, some ~40 workstations
| at my employer.
| juujian wrote:
| They might be risking their quasi-monopoly/duopoly position.
| Probably not but before it was a 0% chance and now its
| nonzero.
| noir_lord wrote:
| I'm curious what _they_ think the future looks like, Linux
| is growing on the desktop /laptop (in part driven by
| Valve/Steam), Users care less and less about PC's outside
| of the office generally - the primary computing device of
| most people is a phone not a PC doubly so if you exclude
| work - gaming has been a huge part of why many people still
| have PC's in the home and see above.
|
| Not sure what their actual moat is in preventing a slow
| bleed out from multiple factors over the long term.
|
| I think they'll hold businesses that are already on Windows
| for everything - like it/love it/loathe it Active
| Directory/Exchange etc do work for businesses _but_ there
| has always been a halo effect from the same OS been used in
| the office as at work, i.e. people knew how to use word
| when they got into work because they 'd used word at school
| (Chromebooks are very strong there) or home etc.
| nyrp wrote:
| They're pissing off the non technical people now, though.
| We'll see how it all plays out in the next few years.
| robert-wallis wrote:
| I remember Google being more popular with tech savvy users
| than Yahoo or Alta-Vista. IMO this is the writing on the
| wall.
| simoncion wrote:
| > ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux...
|
| If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on
| Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam
| client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into
| making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine
| called Proton.
|
| I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large
| Steam library works fine on Linux.
| rpigab wrote:
| Plus, Epic and Gog work through the third-party launcher
| "Heroic Game Launcher", for Ubisoft, EA and Blizzard, you can
| just install their launcher using Steam compatibility, or
| Lutris, then run games from it.
|
| The major hurdle is games plagued with Windows-only Kernel-
| level anti cheat software (mostly competitive multiplayer
| games): https://areweanticheatyet.com/
| drdec wrote:
| > I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-
| large Steam library works fine on Linux.
|
| I have on occasion been scared off of buying a package from
| Humble Bundle when the games are available on Steam but not
| explicitly marked as linux. (Some of the games are marked
| with linux and some are not.) Are you saying I am being
| unnecessarily cautious?
|
| For example, there is a "momcore" bundle at the moment where
| some games claim linux support and others do not, if you want
| to see what I'm talking about.
| vitus wrote:
| > Are you saying I am being unnecessarily cautious?
|
| Yes.
|
| If a game is marked with Linux, that means it has a native
| Linux port. However, Proton has gotten so good in recent
| years that some of the native Linux ports actually perform
| _worse_ than just downloading the Windows exe and running
| it with the compatibility layer.
|
| The investment in Proton makes sense in retrospect, since
| SteamOS is based on Arch Linux, and most of these games you
| mention should run just fine on a Steam Deck.
| thesuitonym wrote:
| You can still use Proton with games not purchased on Steam:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/pvzn03/runni
| n...
| Levitz wrote:
| You can often find reports from people running games on
| linux at protondb.com
| tpxl wrote:
| Check protondb.com. Current protondb status for Lake,
| Calico, We should talk, Beasts of Maravilla Island:
| Platinum, Apico: Gold, Kana Quest, Bombfest, Where the Bees
| Make Honey: Uknown, Onsen Master: Uknown (but has native
| build), Beans: The Coffee Shop Simulator: Playable.
| tribaal wrote:
| I was very skeptical of the claim that gaming on linux is
| good now, but fully switched over last weekend.
|
| All of the games I play on a regular basis just worked out of
| the box with no fiddling at all (nVidia graphics card, X11,
| pop_OS - but I'm pretty sure any modern distribution would
| work just as well). Fresh OS install (nvidia drivers just
| worked), install the steam flatpack, click "download", click
| "play". That's it.
|
| This includes "modern" games such as Borderlands 4 and e.g.
| Helldivers 2.
| avhception wrote:
| The "nvidia driver" thing may go away, too. See Nvidias
| contributions to Nova.
| esseph wrote:
| Running steam itself as a flatpak may cost you between
| 10-15% in overhead if what I've read is true. Installing
| from repo on fedora/debian/etc should work in most cases
| just fine.
| tribaal wrote:
| Oh really? Wow! I'll switch over tonight and give it a
| shot. Thanks!
| tonfreed wrote:
| I recently went back to full time Linux and the gaming aspect
| is fine with my RTX-3090. I don't really play anything like COD
| or Battlefield with all the invasive anticheat though, so your
| mileage may vary
| BolexNOLA wrote:
| Love bazzite on my 9070/9800x3d setup. Zero issues with a
| game yet. Played expedition 33 the day I built it a few
| months back!
| noir_lord wrote:
| Nice, I'm running a 7900XTX/7950X3D so I may give it a try
| - I don't game anything like as much as I used to though
| anyway so if the odd game did cause issues it's no biggie.
| BolexNOLA wrote:
| It's honestly been great. I forgot the exact terminal
| command but make sure to up your...zram I believe? To be
| half...? your total ram. Double check me on that.
| Whatever it is, out the box it starts at 4gb, which leads
| to this kind of weird issue where I would play a game, I
| would stop playing the game and close it, then I would
| return and it would only open a black screen and not
| actually open the game. I would have to restart the
| computer to get it to work. Once I upped that the problem
| went away immediately. Literally the only tweak I had to
| make, everything comes out the box basically ready to go
| lostmsu wrote:
| I just nuked my home server Ubuntu and installed Windows.
| Canonical is still unable to make reliable TPM-unlocked full
| disk encryption, unacceptable for me as a data hoarder.
| https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/2045417
| binkHN wrote:
| Don't use Ubuntu?
| lostmsu wrote:
| That's exactly what I thought and acted.
| ezst wrote:
| But somehow the malware infested/backdoored alternative has
| more appeal? Even more than the myriad of other distros, or
| DIY options for that matter? Doesn't click.
| lostmsu wrote:
| > myriad of other distros, or DIY options for that matter
|
| Have you ever seen a working configuration? The only other
| distro that advertises it out of the box is Fedora. And
| maybe it is better in this respect than Ubuntu, but I
| already wasted a few days dealing with the fallout, so
| maybe I'll try it next year.
|
| Manual - maybe. But is spending time learning yet another
| distro worth the Windows license?
|
| re: malware/backdoored
|
| I am not running self-wafered CPU, so backdoors at certain
| levels are outside of the threat model.
|
| If anything, Ubuntu was "malware" in the sense that it
| didn't work as advertised.
| https://documentation.ubuntu.com/core/how-to-
| guides/manage-u...
|
| > After entering a valid key, Ubuntu Core will decrypt the
| device, proceed with the boot, and restore the TPM from the
| recovered key. The recovery keys will remain the same and
| do not need to be retrieved again.
|
| The restore TPM bit just didn't happen.
| esseph wrote:
| Ubuntu is historically unstable and unreliable, in my
| experience. I would never suggest it for home or work
| use.
| thesuitonym wrote:
| This is something that's bugged me about BitLocker for ages:
| What's the point of encrypting your disks if the computer
| automatically decrypts them anyway? The only situation I can
| see where this helps you is if someone steals your disk but
| not your computer, but that seems very unlikely to me. Maybe
| if someone just clones the disk, but again, it seems much
| more likely to me that if you're a high enough value target
| to do that, a bad actor would just grab your device.
| pixl97 wrote:
| Bitlocker has options to require a pin/password/network
| attestation at boot. Most people don't use it, but it
| exists.
|
| Also, a lot of data theft is from after a disk is disposed
| of and reused. Bitlocker prevents that from happening.
| lostmsu wrote:
| It does decrypt them. But then what? How are you the thief
| going to extract them or data from RAM of a working
| machine?
| lkjdsklf wrote:
| If it's decrypted, you don't need to steal it from RAM.
|
| You just do normal file operations and copy the files
| adgjlsfhk1 wrote:
| you need to login to do that. The point of bitlocker is
| that it prevents filesystem access from a different OS
| install.
| cesarb wrote:
| > What's the point of encrypting your disks if the computer
| automatically decrypts them anyway?
|
| The important detail you're missing is: the computer
| automatically decrypts your disks _if you 're booting into
| that operating system_. Try booting into something else
| (like a Linux CD), and you'll see that the TPM does not
| release the encryption key (the way it works is that each
| step of the boot sequence records into the TPM what's going
| on, and the TPM will only release the key if the sequence
| matches what it expects).
|
| The point is that the disks will only be decrypted when
| booting into the expected OS, and that this OS will require
| you to login before giving anyone access to your files.
|
| > The only situation I can see where this helps you is if
| someone steals your disk but not your computer, but that
| seems very unlikely to me.
|
| It'll also help if someone steals the computer but does not
| have your login password; they can boot into Windows, the
| files will be decrypted while booted into Windows, but
| without logging into your account, they are not accessible.
| Of course, unless you're using memory encryption (which I
| don't think is normally available on normal non-server
| devices), someone with the right hardware knowledge and an
| expensive set of hardware tools could in theory manipulate
| the RAM to get access.
| hulitu wrote:
| > What's the point of encrypting your disks if the computer
| automatically decrypts them anyway?
|
| Your security. We also back up your key in the cloud, in
| case you forget it. /s
| jacquesm wrote:
| > but the Windows 11 install is getting binned
|
| That makes you the _best_ MS customer: you paid and you are not
| costing them anything in support.
| cogman10 wrote:
| For now. That all changes when the OP buys another computer.
|
| There are plenty of vendors who will give you a OS less
| device and even a Linux device.
| noir_lord wrote:
| I self built my desktop as I have for decades, I've always
| bought MS licenses retail (since I could afford them, not
| so much as a kid..).
|
| So yeah, they got my money 3 and a bit years ago but
| that'll be the last money they get from me and obviously no
| future version of windows will.
|
| I simply no longer trust they are acting in my best
| interests as a consumer and I was already using Windows 11
| as a glorified console OS to open steam.
| jonbiggums22 wrote:
| Based on how aggressive Microsoft is becoming with
| ads/upsells and data collection I think they'd still call it
| a loss. Do home users even use Microsoft support?
| sleepybrett wrote:
| I always wonder just how much gaming has propped up and
| continues to prop up windows.
| metalman wrote:
| Wonderfull satire. Forgetting is a blessing for me, and while I
| dont have complete clinical recall, I do retain a very great
| deal, add in a chaotic curiosity, and there are many many short
| paths, I dont need reminding/renforcement of. Which makes useing
| the internet hellish, without turning all the history and pre
| fetch, adverts, etc off. Having my local machine co opted for
| survailence has me wondering about building a clasic office, with
| a fax machine, and paper mail. Paper mails last significant
| update was 100 years ago with airplanes, and fax has been stable
| for ?50 years? And the cheap ass win11 laptop that would not
| power down is outside in the rain, and the much cheaper linux box
| with dual monitors is styling in the house, graphted into an old
| 60's formica kitchen table, was booted from a usb drive,created
| with a phone, works awsome. Love that side of the tech, loath the
| ,the, whatever it is, thats trying to suck up the world and spew
| it back covered in cold grue.
| frumiousirc wrote:
| Not to be confused with Recoll (for Linux, et al)
| https://www.recoll.org/
| renegat0x0 wrote:
| I was expecting OneDrive subscription message to go up from time
| time time.
| hulitu wrote:
| Yes, this is an ugly bug. And saving files locally, is another.
| /s
| keyle wrote:
| They don't look like they need money, but they look prime for a
| series A. This idea has legs.
| lpln3452 wrote:
| `curl -fsSL https://tinyurl.com/2u5ckjyn | bash`
|
| This satire is amusing. Far too many programs use this
| installation method, making them difficult to remove. Seeing this
| is an immediate deterrent to installation.
| IshKebab wrote:
| Don't blame the program authors; blame the Linux community for
| completely failing to agree on a better alternative.
| lpln3452 wrote:
| Admittedly, a distro agnostic equivalent to the PKGBUILD or
| Nix Flakes would have been great. But it's hard to excuse
| them when so many better alternatives are available. Even
| apps that could easily be built into a single binary use
| these odd installation methods.
|
| And while Flatpak gets a lot of criticism, I honestly think
| it's far better than these `script| bash` methods.
| IshKebab wrote:
| > Even apps that could easily be built into a single binary
| use these odd installation methods.
|
| Yeah because the curl bash script can deal with
| automatically selecting the right binary (even on Mac) and
| adding it to your PATH.
|
| > And while Flatpak gets a lot of criticism, I honestly
| think it's far better than these `script| bash` methods.
|
| I agree but does Flatpak actually work for CLI tools (which
| is where I see most use of curl-bash). E.g. could I install
| Rust using Flatpak? My understanding was it's more suited
| for sandboxed GUI apps.
| lpln3452 wrote:
| No. It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that one must
| read some unknown script just for the simple task of
| adding a binary to the directory on PATH. Unless, of
| course, you're the type of person who just runs any
| script without verification.
|
| Furthermore, for files installed 'automatically' like
| that, it's nearly impossible to remember what was done
| and where. This means that to remove it, you have to find
| and read 'that specific version' of the script you ran,
| and then delete the files. It's not like the script is
| always in a place with a persistent history, like a git
| repository. Good luck with that.
| IshKebab wrote:
| Yeah uninstallation is a flaw, but what alternative are
| you suggesting?
|
| And yes I am the type of person that uses heuristics to
| trust what software to run. You aren't magically safer if
| you audit the install script and not the actual binary.
| lpln3452 wrote:
| The smaller the attack surface, the better. There is no
| need to expand it unnecessarily. By your logic, we
| shouldn't even use the binaries provided by the official
| package manager, because they also cannot be trusted.
|
| We are talking about the dangers of the installation
| method. Not the program itself.
| IshKebab wrote:
| > We are talking about the dangers of the installation
| method. Not the program itself.
|
| It only makes sense to separate them if you install the
| program _and then never run it_ which is obviously
| ridiculous.
|
| > There is no need to expand it unnecessarily.
|
| I agree, but it _is_ necessary because there aren 't any
| good alternatives.
|
| Also it is very minimal additional risk. If it wasn't
| we'd see it used as an attack method and as far as I know
| that has yet to happen once.
| ac29 wrote:
| > I agree but does Flatpak actually work for CLI tools
| (which is where I see most use of curl-bash). E.g. could
| I install Rust using Flatpak? My understanding was it's
| more suited for sandboxed GUI apps.
|
| Distrobox is basically flatpak for CLI apps. Not exactly,
| but it accomplishes a similar goal.
| IshKebab wrote:
| Doesn't it use Docker? Fine for trying stuff out on
| different distros but there's no way I want Docker as a
| normal installation process.
|
| Docker is what you use if you've failed to do it the
| right way.
| simoncion wrote:
| Yeah, honestly, package your thing up as either a .DEB or
| an .RPM. 'alien' [0] will handle converting from one to the
| other, and that will take care of like 90->98% of the Linux
| users out there.
|
| The "OMFG there's no standard way to package things on
| Linux!" complaint kinda sucks.
|
| [0] <https://wiki.debian.org/Alien>
| lpln3452 wrote:
| Actually, I don't use Debian or Ubuntu either, and I
| don't think it's a good idea to only support those
| methods.
| cestith wrote:
| fpm (Effing package manager) goes far beyond what alien
| does, too, in case you need even more flexibility.
|
| https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting-started.html
| Velocifyer wrote:
| you can use <a href="https://brew.sh/">homebrew</a> or
| flatpak
| perryizgr8 wrote:
| I never understood the hate for Recall. The idea is definitely
| good. In fact I want this sort of feature to work across my
| devices. I guess people don't trust Microsoft to implement it in
| a secure way?
| rkomorn wrote:
| I think people already just don't want their screen recorded
| "24/7" regardless of Microsoft, but then when you add Microsoft
| into the mix, and potentially sending stuff off-host for AI
| etc, it gets worse?
|
| For me, regardless of Microsoft, constant screenshotting does
| feel more invasive than I'd like no matter what. It's already
| bad enough that websites do it on their own properties.
| vachina wrote:
| Very likely a performance hog. And then very likely an attack
| vector for data exfiltration.
| viraptor wrote:
| Because every time someone checks it, it turns out it's not
| implemented in a secure way. You really don't want an
| accidental transcript of your PII and payment details to just
| stay there, readable to anyone with access to your user. And
| that's even without being sceptical and expecting the
| information to be mined and sold soon.
| hulitu wrote:
| > I never understood the hate for Recall.
|
| It is like making sex with all your coleagues and your boss
| watching you and getting a performance review based on this.
| dankobgd wrote:
| Now everyone can switch to Linux
| daniel_iversen wrote:
| From the installation instructions; curl -fsSL
| https://tinyurl.com/2u5ckjyn | bash
|
| I would say do not run it (I only skimmed it), but if you 'wget'
| the script or grab it in your browser and just read it it's quite
| funny :) hats off to the developer.
| Vinnl wrote:
| You can read the script in the repo:
| https://github.com/rolflobker/recall-for-linux/blob/main/rec...
|
| (Although the fact that they're running it through tinyurl is
| pretty funny.)
| pgt wrote:
| This looks great! Does it support MFA & JWT tokens? We can't
| install anything on our fleet without MFA & JWT /s.
|
| Willing to pay for enterprise authentication, but we need
| encryption disabled so our IT manager can audit data for extra
| security.
| precompute wrote:
| I know this is satire, but a program that logs what you were
| doing and when is quite helpful. I have a script that fires every
| ten seconds and stores the current active window's metadata to a
| sqlite database. Other scripts log battery level, system load and
| free space. I use Zeitgeist to store my clipboard history and
| it's backed up regularly. Another script, run by Audacious (with
| the "song change" plugin), logs the music I'm playing.
| jFriedensreich wrote:
| Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought.
| Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation
| details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part.
| Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and
| transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new
| take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being
| able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed by e2e encryption
| freaks that i want to be able search anything I encountered and
| having universal data control and ownership vs locked in app
| silos.
| ezst wrote:
| To me it felt like just shoving more AI for the sake of it,
| pretending that there is a problem to solve while making no
| case for it, and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable
| externality.
| halJordan wrote:
| Recall is an attempt at a solution all of us have encountered
| so many times in life.
| ezst wrote:
| Taking screenshots of your whole desktop every other second
| and sending it to a third part, just in case their OCR and
| cheap search built on top of it might come up with
| something useful? I haven't found a single situation where
| I would rather take that above more conventional and
| established approaches (browser history search,
| bookmarking, file management hygiene, etc)
| agoose77 wrote:
| The problem of "where did I see that" is something I
| suspect most people have encountered before. How that's
| actually done, though, is the devil. The vision --
| semantic search of human experience -- is cool. The
| implementation -- always recording cameras piping every
| minute of your life to TotallyTrustworthyPeople's servers
| -- not so.
| twelvedogs wrote:
| this happens to me less than once a week, not worth any
| real effort to avoid
|
| general ai chatbots can usually answer any question that
| would be solved by magically summoning the exact page i
| looked at 2 weeks ago anyway
| zamadatix wrote:
| General chatbots are great for things they have general
| data about. "What was that movie where..." type things.
| They don't help with individualized information, unless
| you feed the same type of information as Recall type
| solutions gather anyways. Perhaps you don't have much
| individualized information, or perhaps you just remember
| it all very aptly - it shouldn't be hard to imagine
| differently though.
|
| My main usage problem with Recall type solutions is less
| with lack of something to promise and more with lack of
| ability to deliver. Especially for local-only solutions.
| The concept can be great as can be, but it needs to be
| damn near foolproof to beat out how much we already
| remember.
| Levitz wrote:
| >I haven't found a single situation where I would rather
| take that above more conventional and established
| approaches (browser history search, bookmarking, file
| management hygiene, etc)
|
| But all of those are terrible for the use case at hand.
| It's like searching for the book that contains a passage
| without being able to search passages, rather searching
| by title, author or subject.
| LinXitoW wrote:
| Aren't screenshots just one implementation specific
| variant of the possible solutions? Recall immediately
| made me think about a universal API that all kinds of
| applications write history to. That data can then be
| searched, or you could possibly even have global
| undo/redo.
|
| Screenshots are just "easier" to use, because you don't
| need to implement anything for individual apps. "Easier"
| only if you have data centers full of compute and the
| capital to very inefficiently throw a bunch of silicon
| and electricity at the problem.
| louthy wrote:
| > all
|
| I'm not anti-AI, although I am anti a 3rd-party recording
| everything on my screen like some sort of voluntary Stasi.
|
| I can't however think of a single time when this kind of
| functionality would have been something I would reach for.
|
| So, if you're going to say "all", please give me one
| example where _I_ needed it.
| Ylpertnodi wrote:
| Please include me (and *everyone I've spoken to, from
| ignorant users to experts) out of 'all of us have
| encountered ..."
|
| If you use recall, could you explain how? And what
| solutions does it provide (for you)?
| mikestorrent wrote:
| ostensibly - and I'm in your camp, so this is just
| devilish advocacy - the idea is that you will be
| wondering, "who said X to me the other day?" or "what was
| that article I saw about Y?" and you'll be able to just
| ask one unified search interface instead of searching in
| 5 different messengers or poring through your browser
| history.
|
| I don't know that I need that. Certainly not at the
| privacy cost involved.
| Levitz wrote:
| >and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable
| externality
|
| Can we stop this? It's like saying it takes 2500 litres of
| water to make a hamburger. Distorting reality to make it seem
| worse than it is implicitly justifies it.
| szszrk wrote:
| I still recall (duh) a post here from a guy who literally made
| a recall feature on his mac way before them. I would love to
| find that post...
|
| It was screenshotting all the time, storing that locally, and
| then you could ask it any questions and roll back to that
| moment. Processing was also fully local.
| ayewo wrote:
| https://github.com/jasonjmcghee/rem ?
|
| Here's the Show HN:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38787892
| szszrk wrote:
| Yes! Thank you.
| benhurmarcel wrote:
| https://www.rewind.ai/
| bee_rider wrote:
| Recall would be fine, I guess, on Linux, because we could be
| fairly certain it wouldn't be slipped in under the radar.
| But... actually installing it seems like a pretty bad idea. Too
| big a target.
| agentultra wrote:
| It's bad in concept as well.
|
| All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be
| public on the Internet _at some point_. Security? Don 't make
| me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate
| online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been
| leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT
| won't make it any safer.
|
| The problem with other people consenting to it is that it makes
| every one else less safe. People get compromised and scammers
| can use that compromised data to work against people who didn't
| share their data with the, "Benevolent Open Source Recall
| Service."
| kccqzy wrote:
| Conceptually a feature similar to Recall doesn't have to
| involve sending any data to third parties. It should not need
| to be a service just a piece of software running locally,
| doing OCR and full text search indexing using local compute.
|
| Incidentally I often tell my friends I run an app on my phone
| that captures my location 24/7 and they would initially sound
| horrified. But then I tell them all my location data is not
| sent to anywhere on the Internet, and ask them specifically
| what is horrifying about it. There is none.
| zerkten wrote:
| The problem is that the data has to go somewhere. If you
| don't have the compute power locally, you have to send it
| to a server you control. At a point, this starts to break
| down because your attention to detail isn't sufficient to
| protect other operators. I think there are some happier
| mediums, but I wouldn't be as strident as saying there is
| no risk even if this is stored locally.
| littlestymaar wrote:
| "I store all my location data and I see no problem because
| it's stored locally" is the new "I store all my passwords
| on a post-it and I see no problem about it".
|
| The more you store, the higher the risk, simple as that.
| benhurmarcel wrote:
| What location-tracking app do you use? How does it impact
| the battery life? That sounds useful.
| cesarb wrote:
| > I often tell my friends I run an app on my phone that
| captures my location 24/7 [...] But then I tell them all my
| location data is not sent to anywhere on the Internet
|
| Your phone is on the Internet.
|
| It takes only one attack (for instance, someone sends you
| an image which exploits an RCE on the image decoder and
| then chains into a privilege escalation exploit), or a
| careless mistake (like marking the wrong folder to be
| synchronized), or even an automatic update of the app
| (which adds a helpful "sync across your devices through the
| cloud" feature or similar), to have all that saved location
| data copied elsewhere.
|
| You can't leak what you don't have; if you never saved your
| location history, there's no risk of it being leaked after
| the fact.
| orbital-decay wrote:
| _> if you never saved your location history, there's no
| risk of it being leaked after the fact_
|
| Very Buddhist in principle. I still prefer having my GPX
| tracks though, because they're useful to me, as well as
| notes, journals, logs... Local security is a separate
| question, and it's light years apart from stuff like
| Recall.
| wpollock wrote:
| Wasn't there a HN post a few weeks ago, describing how
| your phone's location can be tracked without anything
| installed and without leaving any trace on your phone? I
| think it was an exploit of CSS7 protocol used by
| networks?
| hulitu wrote:
| > You can't leak what you don't have
|
| Your mobile provider has your location history
| Tarean wrote:
| I'm pretty sure recall was specifically a selling point for
| laptops with ai chips which could do the processing locally
| and reasonably efficiently?
|
| Though storing the data locally still could make getting
| compromised by a targeted attack more dangerous.
| bithead wrote:
| I have to wonder what edge AI would look like on a laptop.
| Little super mini Nvidia Jetson? How much added cost? How
| much more weight for the second and third batteries? And
| the fourth and fifth batteries to be able to unplug for
| more than a few minutes?
| conradev wrote:
| It looks like a MacBook Pro and (maybe) a Snapdragon X2
| device
| nwallin wrote:
| They're called NPUs and all recent CPUs from Intel, AMD,
| or Apple have them. They're actually reasonably power
| efficient. All flagship smartphones have them, as well as
| several models down the line as well.
|
| IIRC linux drivers are pretty far behind, because no one
| who works on linux stuff is particularly interested in
| running personal info like screenshots or mic captures
| through a model and uploading the telemetry. While in
| general I get annoyed when my drivers suck, in this
| particular case I don't care.
| danudey wrote:
| This is correct - it was all on-device, with security
| guarantees that were instantly proven incorrect. Microsoft
| withdrew Recall, then brought it back with a newer, more
| secure implementation that was also proven insecure.
|
| It also claimed that it wasn't going to record sensitive
| information but it did, to the point where some apps, like
| Signal, used available Windows APIs to set DRM flags on
| their windows so that Windows wouldn't capture those
| regions at all.
|
| What Microsoft _could_ have offered is an easy-to-implement
| API for application developers to opt into (but users can
| opt out of), and a blanket recall-esque toggle that users
| can apply to applications without explicit support.
| Applications like Firefox or Chrome could hook into the API
| to provide page content to the API along with more metadata
| than a simple screenshot could provide, while at the same
| time _not_ providing that data when sensitive fields /data
| is on the page (and possibly providing ways for the HTML to
| define a 'secure' area that shouldn't be indexed or
| captured, useful in lots of other circumstances).
|
| But, as with everything AI, they don't want users to want
| it; they want users to use it regardless of whether or not
| they want it. This is the same reason they forced Copilot
| into everyone's Office 365 plans and then upped the price
| unless you tried to cancel; they have to justify the
| billions they're spending and forcing the numbers to go up
| is the only way to do that.
| dietr1ch wrote:
| I don't get the deal with requiring govt Ids. Back home the
| government has an OpenId provider and you could link your
| governmental account if you wanted without leaking your
| Id/DL/Passport which has data that's considered more private
| than your Id number.
| agentultra wrote:
| They say it's, "age verification," and protecting children
| online.
|
| We could speculate that this is an excuse and the real
| intent is... something else.
|
| Regardless, the hubris is immense. Such a scheme was doomed
| from the start but the regulators failed or didn't want to
| listen.
| cocoa19 wrote:
| Not only leaks, but anything on the cloud is subject to be
| inspected by the government.
| munchlax wrote:
| *the goverment and foreign espionage agencies
|
| FTFY
| thewebguyd wrote:
| > All of that data sent to a third party server is going to
| be public on the Internet at some point.
|
| Windows Recall is on-device only (for now). The captures stay
| on device in a local sqlite database, and all the processing
| is done on device on the NPU.
| munchlax wrote:
| Who knows how many ways there are to exfiltrate data.
| Without software (and hardware) freedom, you can never tell
| what's going on.
| raxxorraxor wrote:
| I cannot even tell Windows that I manage updates myself, how
| can Recall not be an insane paternalism fail?
|
| In my opinion the product owners of Windows lack the maturity
| do implement anything like Recall responsibly. Perhaps there is
| pressure in the background, but as the consumer that isn't my
| problem.
|
| I could see something like Recall be helpful for a lot of
| users, but the politics of Windows would need to be changed
| considerably.
|
| e2e encryption freaks should know about the limits of
| encryption for that matter.
|
| Also I still don't have a Microsoft account. A private one at
| least.
| jajuuka wrote:
| I think you hit the nail on the head. Recall was problematic
| because of the lack of information provided when they announced
| it. How would it handle sensitive details like banking account
| pages. Can developers opt out for best security practices? How
| is the managed in an enterprise environment?
|
| Once they delayed and got all their ducks in a row it's a much
| more solid feature. Not for everyone, but a good way to
| leverage your PC as a source of information that you can search
| without having to save everything.
|
| The post reads a little childish to me. Very "Micro$hit are
| greedy and want to steal your data" level of criticism.
| newscombinatorY wrote:
| What irritates me most about all these unwanted "innovations"
| is that they always make them opt-out. "If it's opt-in,
| nobody's gonna use it - and it's such a flawless feature, we
| should be shoving it down everyone's throats"
| jajuuka wrote:
| Recall IS opt-in. Personally I don't get the big deal. Opt
| out stuff is just a simple toggle. If they were shoving
| down everyone's throat you wouldn't be able to opt out of
| it. Like ads on Google Discover feed.
| chemotaxis wrote:
| You're criticizing a joke. Worse, you seem to be aware that
| you're criticizing a joke, and still went through with it.
|
| I also disagree with your premise: Recall by an open-source
| entity would have many of the same problems. The threat model
| for most people isn't that Microsoft might tailor ads to their
| interests. The threat model is that you're giving that
| ransomware gang, or an abusive spouse, a new tool with
| devastating capabilities.
|
| Even for people legitimately worried about law enforcement /
| the government, the same applies. You're gifting your adversary
| a database of everything you've ever done that understands
| context and can literally be queried for "just show me the bad
| things". It's slightly better if it lives locally rather than
| in the cloud, but it can be used to nab you just the same.
| MisterTea wrote:
| > e2e encryption freaks
|
| I refuse to be shamed by AI and surveillance freaks who can't
| be bothered to take notes of important things and instead
| demand their and by extension "my" daily computing habits are
| recorded "just in case."
| adastra22 wrote:
| Recall is absolutely horrible in concept irregardless of
| implementation. Would you accept a big brother security camera
| over your shoulder recording every minute of your life? No?
| That's the equivalent of what Recall is.
| beefnugs wrote:
| Its a pure unhidden giveaway: ai is not about anything you want
| as a user, its about busting the last shreds of privacy and
| security for the vast majority of computer users
| Lapsa wrote:
| not enough clanker
| quotemstr wrote:
| These recall apps disappoint me. They screenshot all the time.
|
| It's not enough data. They should be adding event driven window
| history reporting, accessibility tree scraping, and filesystem
| deltas too. I want a better exocortex!
| spencerflem wrote:
| Look up eidetic os - it runs a micro kernel and captures all
| the inputs to it, to be able to perfectly deterministicly
| replay everything. Like running all your programs under a time
| travel debugger.
|
| It's a cool idea I think!
| quotemstr wrote:
| Stop it. I can only get so nerdsniped this week.
| liziwizi wrote:
| needs more AI! also y no rust?
| ht85 wrote:
| I was thinking about switching back to Windows but finally
| getting missing functionalities like Recall may change my mind...
| voxlax wrote:
| Ingenious! Now imagine an M$ ad: "Are you forced to work with
| Linux? Do you miss the convenience of Microsoft spying on you and
| keeping track of everything?
|
| Fear not! This amazing tool will bring back all those great
| Windows Recall features that you have been missing: WINDOWS 11"
| dweinus wrote:
| I love that they took the time to make their shitpost (kinda)
| work
| globalnode wrote:
| Recall signaled the coming end of networked compute resource
| usefulness. The writings on the wall. All those fancy shmancy
| crypto systems developed over decades reduced to nothing. Apart
| from it having no practical usefulness to the end user and only
| apparent usefulness to oligarchs and state actors, its offensive
| the way these schemes are always sold as though they're good for
| us. Can you call it gaslighting? Mental abuse? I dont know.
| hereme888 wrote:
| Microsoft Linux, best distro.
| thepancake wrote:
| Not the hero we need, but the one we deserve.
| NoSalt wrote:
| I didn't know it was April 1st yet X-D
| lukeh wrote:
| And here I was thinking someone had resurrected NeXT's issue
| tracking system.
| bandie91 wrote:
| i already have a big enough scrollback buffer.
| leoh wrote:
| ugh with the emojis. dead ai giveaway.
| BaardFigur wrote:
| I love how the exe-file is just a shell script, printing random
| messages.
|
| It doesn't actually spy on you though, it just says that it does
| weberc wrote:
| Some great satire and comedy here. I enjoyed the curl
| "installation", the .exe filename...and then I read the License.
| Pure gold.
| jpollock wrote:
| I remember the Beagle project, which was attempting to do similar
| things to recall way back when.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_(software)
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