[HN Gopher] Project Amplify: Powered footwear for running and wa...
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       Project Amplify: Powered footwear for running and walking
        
       Author : justinmayer
       Score  : 121 points
       Date   : 2025-10-25 20:35 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | SilverElfin wrote:
       | I don't get the point. Maybe there's a therapy angle? But
       | otherwise if someone wanted to go faster they could go to a bike,
       | e-bike, or car.
        
         | sega_sai wrote:
         | I assume there is a military angle here.
        
         | mewpmewp2 wrote:
         | I would like to have something like this if it helped me with
         | e.g. shin splints, or similar, because I really love running,
         | but I tend to overdo it and I don't have any other options than
         | asphalt to run on. Not sure if this one would be good for shin
         | splits though. I guess this could potentially just be a fun
         | thing to run a bit faster, but that alone wouldn't be worth it
         | for me. But if it allowed me to balance where the strain goes,
         | then yeah.
        
           | ivoflipse wrote:
           | I was going to comment the same thing, rather than push off
           | harder, I'd hope it help brace for impact and relieve some of
           | the weaker muscles.
           | 
           | Yes, I should perhaps be doing strength training, but I have
           | limited hours to exercise and I'd prefer to spend them
           | running rather than training so that eventually I could be
           | running.
           | 
           | Another thing that happens is that your technique gets worse
           | during longer runs, making you more prone to injuries. Maybe
           | a device like this could either support you so you can run
           | longer runs or compensate to make sure you don't hurt
           | yourself.
           | 
           | So if this device helps with reducing running based injuries,
           | I'm all for it
           | 
           | I have an electric cargo bike that I put in one of the lowest
           | settings, if I cycle at the top speed it doesn't help much if
           | at all. But accelerating from a dead stop is nice. This could
           | be similar
        
             | mewpmewp2 wrote:
             | Off topic, but for what it's worth I'm getting myself a
             | rowing machine to try and alleviate my running cravings,
             | especially as winter is coming. I'm not sure if it will be
             | able to reproduce the feelings I get from running as I
             | haven't done rowing enough, but running seems to be the
             | only thing I've found that puts me into this flow state.
             | Cycling is too limited, legs only, HR doesn't get high
             | enough, so hopefully rowing is better due to it being full
             | body. Rowing won't be outside and I won't be physically
             | moving around so that may be the downside. But the metrics
             | to achieve should be much more consistent and comparable
             | compared to if there's many weather changes otherwise, so
             | looking forward to seeing progress there.
        
               | iamacyborg wrote:
               | Fwiw I find the stairmaster to be the least boring of the
               | cardio machines when looking for a replacement for
               | running.
               | 
               | That thing will make you sweat.
        
               | mewpmewp2 wrote:
               | Have you tried rowing and you found that more boring? I
               | feel like rowing with added bonus of training more
               | muscles would seem most fun?
        
               | iamacyborg wrote:
               | Yeah tried it and I personally found it less fun.
        
               | mewpmewp2 wrote:
               | The tension on the hands feels very good though. And I do
               | wonder if it also trains muscles around ankles that will
               | help prevent shin splints.
        
             | iamacyborg wrote:
             | It's somewhat funny that you mention shin splints and
             | technique breakdown, both of which can be helped through
             | regular gym going but also want a shortcut rather than the
             | obvious solution.
             | 
             | Shin splints really do suck though, I had some that put me
             | off running for about 12 months.
        
               | mewpmewp2 wrote:
               | Maybe they can be helped, and I've read suggestions like
               | these as well, but I used to do a lot of strength
               | training, including not skipping leg days, and still got
               | shin splints. So strength training might decrease odds
               | for some people, but I don't feel like it would be
               | deciding factor for me.
        
         | onion2k wrote:
         | I want to see a competitive sports event like the Olympics
         | where this sort of technology is allowed.
        
           | tavavex wrote:
           | I wish that existed too. Not just an event to see how far the
           | human body can be pushed naturally, but also another one to
           | see how far it can be pushed, period. There would still need
           | to be regulation to ensure that people didn't actively harm
           | themselves (like extreme doping or something), but other
           | augmentations like exoskeletons and such would be allowed.
        
         | ThrowawayR2 wrote:
         | Might be good for the last mile commuting problem, where people
         | need a way to get from their home to a bus stop that is a mile
         | or two away. A bicycle is not a good solution because then you
         | have to take it on to the bus and to your destination.
        
         | treis wrote:
         | Lots of people walk long ways for different reasons. I'm very
         | dubious that this will ever be a thing but there's definitely a
         | market.
        
         | tavavex wrote:
         | Bikes and cars are modes of transport. They're optimal for
         | getting around at high speeds, but when you don't need them,
         | you need to leave them somewhere, they're large and not very
         | convenient. On the other hand, these are shoes. You put them on
         | in the morning and can wear them anywhere outside, they're not
         | separate things you need to handle. I can definitely see demand
         | for this from people who walk all day long for their jobs
         | (warehouse workers, military, etc) or hikers/runners who want
         | to stretch their endurance over a larger distance.
        
         | chaostheory wrote:
         | I see this more applicable to the military and law enforcement,
         | but yes also for the elderly and disabled. Yeah, the opening
         | line with "athletes" doesn't make sense.
         | 
         | There are already powered leg augmentations on the market for
         | $3-5k, but these are much smaller.
        
         | jayd16 wrote:
         | What about a hike just on the edge of your ability?
        
         | ajkjk wrote:
         | It sounds fun tbh (not to mention all the potential medical
         | uses)
        
       | bix6 wrote:
       | Wild! Looks like it pulls your heel up so reduces energy
       | requirement of each up stroke? Seems like it would need to be
       | super light to offset carrying more mass?
        
       | jvdvegt wrote:
       | I'd like such technology very much, as I lack about 80% of my
       | calf muscles due to an auto immune disease. I can't walk without
       | a (non powered) exo skeleton, and perhaps with these I can walk
       | stairs again.
        
         | ternus wrote:
         | Wow, that's awful. Have you looked into the existing powered
         | exoskeletons? Or are those too hip/thigh focused to help?
        
           | esseph wrote:
           | There's some excellent knee ones, too
        
         | tartoran wrote:
         | Are you using something like this? Do you get back most of your
         | previous functionality?
         | 
         | https://newatlas.com/unpowered-ankle-exoskeleton-walking-eff...
        
         | tarellel wrote:
         | I completely agree my mother has MS and I have my own
         | autoimmune issues. Something like this would be extremely
         | helpful for people with debilitating diseases that cause muscle
         | deterioration.
        
         | michelb wrote:
         | Maybe you can checkout the Dephy Exoboot: https://www.dephy.com
         | No idea how far along they are though, but looks like they are
         | open for early access.
         | 
         | I'm sure you've already seen https://eu.hypershell.tech
         | 
         | I'm hopeful these get cheaper, smaller and lighter, and more
         | powerful. Would be great to have these accessible to a lot of
         | people.
        
       | arjie wrote:
       | I'm a huge fan of "slightly better walking/running" kind of tech.
       | Unfortunately, current technology lends itself to devices that
       | are slightly too heavy. I have a pair of Shift Moonwalkers[0]
       | that I was hoping would fulfill that role.
       | 
       | A motorcycle accident interrupted my fitness program and it took
       | quite a lot of work to get back to where I am. During that period
       | there were many times when I was (minorly) injured repeatedly
       | since all my muscles were just not strong enough to do things and
       | I wasn't disciplined about them.
       | 
       | I picked up some persistent tendinitis that is just healing with
       | some physiotherapy. Things like this aren't terribly limiting in
       | life but the primary problem is that a lot of the stuff you have
       | to do is rest the appropriate body part! And to rest it, you need
       | to not do things. I don't want to not do things. I want to do
       | things while resting the appropriate part of my body.
       | 
       | And I bet as I get older, all this stuff will catch up. So
       | anything that will extend mobility to my elderly years (still far
       | away) is great. If I do the right things, my body will function
       | well into my 80s and if the tech is there hopefully I'll walk
       | around with my grandkids. All in all, I'm hoping that material
       | science in batteries, motors, and frames and product design all
       | do a big leap in this in the next 40 years. The market is likely
       | there with our aging population.
       | 
       | 0: Here's an example of me using them after I got used to them
       | https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qc5PKbJ3tq4
        
         | intrasight wrote:
         | I am that older guy. For sure it catches up.
        
       | mrcwinn wrote:
       | I'm going to be ripped once the powered arms do my lifting for
       | me.
        
         | bigmattystyles wrote:
         | Come to think of it, why is Superman muscular?
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Nike 's plans to put the swoosh back into its sales_
       | 
       | https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/oct/23/just-redo-it-i...
        
       | PuissantSheep wrote:
       | For those of you who don't "see the point" of a device like this,
       | what you are failing to see is your own personal use case.
       | 
       | The use cases I can see for others are "anyone who might find
       | this useful or fun". To me, that means
       | 
       | 1) people with medically compromised joints who would like to
       | engage in experiences that their bodies don't currently allow.
       | 
       | 2) people who want to challenge themselves by making these joint
       | additions add more resistance.
       | 
       | 3) people who want more strength and/or power for any reason.
       | "Fun" is a valid use case.
       | 
       | These joint enhancements exist for hips, knees, and with this,
       | now ankles. The logical end for this is a powered exoskeleton
       | (and, after that, power armor).
        
         | metabagel wrote:
         | It sounds great, but I'm skeptical that it will actually help
         | without messing up the natural motion.
        
           | terribleperson wrote:
           | There is nothing natural about the motions of running in
           | modern running shoes, and yet people learn. Getting the
           | behavior right will be difficult, I'm sure, but not
           | impossible.
        
         | mmooss wrote:
         | > 1) people with medically compromised joints who would like to
         | engage in experiences that their bodies don't currently allow.
         | 
         | And medically compromised muscles, nervous systems, etc. I know
         | someone in that situation who loves scooters. They say it's
         | like flying - they finally can _move_ at will, instead of the
         | lifelong difficulty and pain of walking.
        
         | rich_sasha wrote:
         | I find running incredibly boring, because the scenery changes
         | so damn slowly around you. I would happily put in the same
         | effort for the same time, but go substantially faster to make
         | it more fun.
         | 
         | Not sure I would buy this product, but I see more than 0 use
         | for it.
        
           | Swizec wrote:
           | > because the scenery changes so damn slowly around you
           | 
           | Have you considered running faster?
           | 
           | But seriously though, I've gotten pretty decent at running
           | (3h15min marathon PR) and the difference between hiking a
           | trail and running the same trail is kinda bonkers. These days
           | I can run a trail in 2 hours that took me 6 hours to hike 10
           | years ago. Hits totally different. The whole dynamic changes.
           | 
           | Hiking feels immensely boring now
           | 
           | PS: If you run fast enough you don't even notice the scenery.
        
             | rich_sasha wrote:
             | I mean... I run as fast/far as fitness permits. I'm not
             | going slowly on purpose!
        
           | z3phyr wrote:
           | If you go at light speed across the universe, the scenery
           | would also not change, until you collide with something.
        
             | rkomorn wrote:
             | When you collide with something at light speed, you become
             | the scenery (and the former scenery is no more), no?
        
           | rkomorn wrote:
           | Getting off topic but this is exactly why, after never
           | running for fun in my life, I got into cycling (a hobby that
           | admittedly can easily turn expensive even if it doesn't have
           | to).
           | 
           | Instead of running 10km in an hour, I could bike from Silicon
           | Valley to the ocean and back in 3-4 hours, and have views
           | over city, hills, oceans, suburbia, etc.
        
           | andreareina wrote:
           | Get a bike ;)
        
         | wiether wrote:
         | > 1) people with medically compromised joints who would like to
         | engage in experiences that their bodies don't currently allow.
         | 
         | They say:
         | 
         | > Engineered to augment natural lower leg and ankle movement
         | 
         | Meanwhile, most people who can't walk/run as they would like
         | have issues from their knees upward.
         | 
         | Worse, having heavier lower leg means more strain on the upper
         | leg.
         | 
         | Yes, there's probably a narrow niche of people with lower leg
         | only issues that can be helped by this device, but most people
         | have issues upward ; and this device have the potential to
         | create issues upward on people not yet concerned by them.
        
         | wiz21c wrote:
         | If it was a medical company I'd agree a bit more. But it's
         | Nike. They'll sell that to any person who thinks walking is too
         | hard even though it's not in his best medical interest.
        
       | knowitnone3 wrote:
       | "designed to help everyday athletes* go a little bit faster and
       | farther" When is the last time an athlete said I'm looking to go
       | a little faster and farther with the aid of a powered device?
       | Their target market is all wrong. This would be great if aimed
       | towards low mobility users.
        
         | 5- wrote:
         | > an athlete said I'm looking to go a little faster and farther
         | with the aid of a powered device
         | 
         | isn't that a time-honoured tradition at tour de france?
        
       | jayd16 wrote:
       | I'm sure it's science fiction right now but a pair of shoes that
       | could teach you to do a kick flip would be pretty amazing.
       | 
       | Pair with some power gloves to catch your fall and maybe I can
       | learn to skateboard as my mid life crisis activity down the road.
        
       | ewuhic wrote:
       | These are already common in China, and Nike will rip you off with
       | the price for "western engineering".
        
         | Game_Ender wrote:
         | Can you link some? I can only find the hip exoskeletons.
        
         | foolswisdom wrote:
         | > Nike's Project Amplify is the world's first powered footwear
         | system for running and walking,
         | 
         | So this is straight up false?
        
           | michelb wrote:
           | The Moonwalkers from Shift Robotics from 2022 come to mind,
           | but are noticeably different. Or the Dephy Exoboot:
           | https://www.dephy.com which is also 'the first'
        
         | echelon wrote:
         | > These are already common in China
         | 
         | Link?
         | 
         | > and Nike will rip you off with the price for "western
         | engineering".
         | 
         | It's the brand more than anything. Nike's brand commands a
         | premium.
         | 
         | I've quite literally never seen a product like this on the
         | market, so as far as I'm concerned if Nike is the first to
         | Western market with the product, and they do a good job
         | introducing it, it's their innovation.
         | 
         | It's like with Nintendo and Apple. They're quite frequently not
         | the first to develop a technology, but they take things and
         | popularize them. Digital cameras, motion control, touch
         | screens, smartphones, tablet gaming devices, ...
        
       | egypturnash wrote:
       | Are there any actual videos of this, you know, in _use_? All I
       | see is a bunch of 3d renders of it. There isn 't even a picture
       | of a Nike executive holding a prototype.
        
         | cheschire wrote:
         | https://youtu.be/Psp3YarOKVw
         | 
         | Mrwhosetheboss did a video on the new Nike stuff including
         | these
        
       | FooBarBizBazz wrote:
       | Pales in comparison to Soviet science ;-):
       | 
       | > the power comes from pistons that are filled with a fuel-air
       | mixture, and fired by compression when the user puts his or her
       | full body weight down into the boot
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_boots
       | 
       | https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/these-gas-powered-bo...
        
         | CaptainOfCoit wrote:
         | Seems to be these ones, and bunch of more videos in the
         | description too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJvmAXCh6Ak
        
       | brcmthrowaway wrote:
       | Has anyone 3d printed something similar? Looks doable - motors
       | and servos are really cheap on AliExpress
        
         | qingcharles wrote:
         | When Nike was working on the Mags (self-lacing) there were lots
         | of hobby projects to try and build the same thing, but none of
         | them could come close to the finish and integration that Nike
         | could manage with their resources and industrial processes.
         | 
         | These Amplify are pretty complicated:
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/Nz2Y0e7SgFY?t=404
        
           | brcmthrowaway wrote:
           | So Nike is the apple of shors
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | It's a start, but we're going to need a powered full exoskeleton,
       | with armor, for fighting Nazis.
        
       | MichaelNolan wrote:
       | A lot of comments are casting doubt on why "athletes" would be
       | interested in this product. In the bike world, electric pedal
       | assist bikes have become very popular. I have some family members
       | who are avid cyclists. They do 100+ miles a week. As they have
       | gotten older (60+) they were losing the ability to engage in
       | social rides with their bike friends, but e-bikes have solved
       | that issue by giving them just a small boost needed to keep up.
       | 
       | I could see this doing the same for older runners if the tech
       | gets good enough.
       | 
       | "Athlete" != "professional athlete" the word encompasses a wide
       | range of people and abilities.
        
         | albert_e wrote:
         | The linked article says this at the end:
         | 
         | > * If you have a body, you are an athlete.
        
           | port11 wrote:
           | Pedantic, but the definition of an athlete is someone
           | proficient in a physical activity. Quite some people barely
           | use their bodies, unless we count moving in and out of a car.
        
         | forgotoldacc wrote:
         | Yeah, stuff like this is great for people who want to be
         | outside and get some exercise, but aren't doing it for the
         | purpose of competing with anyone.
         | 
         | I personally love hiking. I love going into nature, seeing new
         | places, and being away from people. But there are times where I
         | go for a slightly easier course instead of the one I actually
         | want to do, because that few extra hours would absolutely wreck
         | my body, especially since I'm often hiking in different places
         | for several days. A little boost would be nice.
         | 
         | And with e-bikes, they're great for commuters and people just
         | riding around their neighborhood. Lots of people ride them in
         | my town for doing shopping trips. More affordable than a car,
         | better for the environment, better for your health, and people
         | who otherwise would take a car because they can't deal with
         | pedaling uphill or long distances have a great alternative. I
         | imagine powered shoes will be the same. People who feel like
         | they're too old/out of shape to walk long distances often opt
         | for cars, but if powered shoes give them the confidence to
         | walk, it's far better to take an electronically assisted walk
         | than to sit in a vehicle.
        
         | kccqzy wrote:
         | Social rides? I think using a pedal assist bike would more
         | readily lead to social ostracizing amongst friends who are
         | using regular bikes. In my experience, at least among my circle
         | of friends, if one person couldn't keep up they would rather
         | shorten the distance than allowing that person to use an
         | e-bike.
         | 
         | Electric pedal assist bikes are best suited for commuting and
         | running errands, i.e. using the bike as a transportation tool,
         | not a recreation tool.
        
           | dan-g wrote:
           | This sounds like a gross generalization of cyclists--I hope
           | everyone's friends aren't this petty! I've gone on plenty of
           | rides on an e-bike/not on an e-bike with folks doing the
           | opposite and have never felt ostracized or made others feel
           | ostracized.
           | 
           | As other commenters posted, it gets even more people out on
           | the paths who wouldn't normally be able to keep up or might
           | feel self-conscious, and I think that's a really positive
           | thing.
        
             | kccqzy wrote:
             | I must admit I don't interact with all kinds of cyclists.
             | My circle of cyclists are the ones who like indoor cycling
             | as much as going outdoors, and they almost always have a
             | power meter and like to challenge themselves for power PRs,
             | and they tend to be Strava Premium users.
        
               | Zopieux wrote:
               | Sounds insufferable.
        
           | UltraSane wrote:
           | Who are you to say what e-bikes are best used for? They are a
           | lot of fun to ride.
        
             | kccqzy wrote:
             | It's my sincere opinion. You are allowed to disagree.
        
           | kleinsch wrote:
           | It's not about distance, it's about burst. It sucks to go on
           | a ride where you fall behind or have to all-out every time
           | there's a hill or you need to accelerate after a stoplight.
           | May only need 50-100w, but makes it so people can keep up
           | with the group and have a fun time.
        
           | andylynch wrote:
           | Depends on how decent your friends are... one couple I know
           | in particular, they both love MTB, but have different
           | endurance levels, so with one having an e-bike it evens out
           | nicely.
        
         | MengerSponge wrote:
         | People with pedal-assist ebikes do more work and ride them for
         | more distance than people with acoustic bikes.
         | 
         | Less gatekeeping, more celebration: imagine being Pogi and
         | being able to crank 300 watts for hours on end. It would make
         | touring the countryside a joy!
        
           | brainwad wrote:
           | I don't think this is really true in general. When you climb
           | a pass, the distance and elevation are fixed; the ebike
           | riders buzzing by at twice your speed are not doing more work
           | than you - they are avoiding some of the work inherent in the
           | climb.
        
             | analog31 wrote:
             | I'm sure it depends on geography. In my area, the e-bikes
             | are pretty much confined to the rail-trails, which are
             | flat. When I get out into the hills, the bikes buzzing by
             | me at twice _my_ speed are all conventional. I 've seen no
             | e-bikes out there.
             | 
             | Also, making educated guesses, it may be a non-issue. Most
             | of the e-cyclists in my area seem to be divided into two
             | categories: 1) What I would call adult beginners, who had
             | bikes but didn't ride them much before they got e-bikes. 2)
             | Practical uses such as commuting, transporting kids, etc.
             | And recreational use of e-bikes seems to have peaked while
             | basic transportation use continues to grow.
             | 
             | The commuters pass me at a high speed, but they're also in
             | good control, and polite. The beginners tend to ride at the
             | same speed as conventional bikes, or even slower.
             | 
             | The real problem that e-bikes solve is not faster horses,
             | but whether someone wants to get around on a bike at all.
        
             | BobaFloutist wrote:
             | If they're going twice your speed, they can go twice as
             | far. Assuming they're personally providing at least half
             | the power over the course of the bike ride, they're
             | expending identical calories to you, possibly more to
             | compensate for their heavier bike.
             | 
             | It's true that the moment-to-moment intensity is lower, but
             | lowering intensity is some of the most common advice given
             | to people struggling to get into a sport without their body
             | rebelling, and the challenge as often as not is that
             | they're bored at the beginner's pace and want to push more.
             | 
             | It's the same concept as assisted pull ups or knee pushups.
             | Sure, you can build up from scratch by just doing a
             | fraction of the duration, but that's boring and
             | frustrating. Being able to actually move your body the full
             | distance with less effort is a much more engaging way to
             | build up the physical capacity you need to do it without
             | the assist.
        
             | MengerSponge wrote:
             | On a particular climb, sure: energy is conserved, but this
             | is a curb-cut effect. It's easier to make a little jaunt on
             | an ebike, so people are more likely to use their ebikes to
             | take that little jaunt.
             | 
             | More rides, for more distance. The integrated effect is
             | more energy expended.
        
         | y-c-o-m-b wrote:
         | > I could see this doing the same for older runners if the tech
         | gets good enough.
         | 
         | I have degenerative disc disease that's severe enough to
         | prevent me from running without causing neurological problems
         | or pain. I miss being able to run (I'm in my early 40s), I
         | haven't done it in 8 years. If something like this could lead
         | to treating my problem, it would open up new worlds for me.
        
       | mixologic wrote:
       | Yeah, but do they still work when us-east-1 goes down?
        
         | bdangubic wrote:
         | if it does I am buying this for my daughter to replace roomba
         | which doesn't :)
        
           | igor47 wrote:
           | ... Because currently, your daughter rides around on a
           | Roomba? And this will allow her similar freedom of movement,
           | but more fault-tolerant?
        
             | RobotToaster wrote:
             | He obviously plans to get his daughter to vacuum the house
             | with her new found mobility.
        
       | stevage wrote:
       | > This makes it easier for everyday athletes to walk or run more
       | often, for longer amounts of time, while having more fun --
       | adding movement to their lives, extending their walking commute,
       | or helping them to enjoy the run for another mile or two.
       | 
       | The people I know who run all do it for the exercise, not because
       | they like the running. Why would you want to extend it?
        
         | jstummbillig wrote:
         | Because now they might dislike it less (depending on what they
         | dislike). People do more of things they like.
        
         | Mistletoe wrote:
         | "If one could run without getting tired I don't think one would
         | often want to do anything else" -C.S. Lewis, The Last Battle
        
         | watwut wrote:
         | Why did they picked sport they dont like?
         | 
         | The people I know who stuck to running long term like it.
        
         | glitchcrab wrote:
         | I run for exercise, but I also genuinely enjoy it as an
         | activity
        
           | stevage wrote:
           | I understand what you're saying on an intellectual level.
        
         | bramhaag wrote:
         | > The people I know who run all do it for the exercise, not
         | because they like the running.
         | 
         | That sounds like torture. Why would you voluntarily practice a
         | form of exercise that you actively dislike, when there are
         | basically infinite options to get the same benefits in
         | different ways?
         | 
         | Believe it or not, many people who stick with running do it
         | because they enjoy it.
        
           | stevage wrote:
           | >Why would you voluntarily practice a form of exercise that
           | you actively dislike, when there are basically infinite
           | options to get the same benefits in different ways?
           | 
           | If there are other, more enjoyable, ways to get a similarly
           | cardo-intensive workout that are equally convenient I'd love
           | to hear them.
           | 
           | I like cycling. But in practice it is difficult to get my
           | heart rate as high in a sustained way - at least, where I
           | live. A similar level of workout takes a lot longer.
           | 
           | So yeah, hit me with some of these infinite possibilities
           | please.
        
           | lloeki wrote:
           | I don't really like and never liked running; I mean, I don't
           | like it as I like skateboarding, which makes me all butterfly
           | hyped just thinking about riding a board and doing even the
           | dumbest simplest tricks.
           | 
           | But I do like the _effects_ of running, which I don 't seem
           | to be able to emulate any other way. I can't say it's torture
           | - it should never be nor feel like torture otherwise you're
           | doing it wrong - but it was certainly a learned taste of
           | sorts.
           | 
           | It's more like this human body has been shaped to do this by
           | aeons of evolution, and over time it feels immensely
           | rewarding after the fact _when done properly for a given
           | fitness level_.
           | 
           | You don't have to like running, your body does already (but
           | might have forgotten)
        
           | toolslive wrote:
           | I became a runner by elimination: I needed to do something
           | for "cardiac hygiene". Swimming has a setup cost (you need to
           | go to a pool). Cycling takes too long, so running it became.
           | I run 40-50km/week, and honestly I do not like it. Anyway, I
           | do enjoy the mental health side effects too.
        
       | fritzo wrote:
       | The batteries belong on a hip belt, not down where the foot
       | swings
       | 
       | > rechargeable cuff battery that seamlessly integrate with a
       | carbon fiber-plated running shoe
        
       | PeterStuer wrote:
       | How would this impact muscle development? Is the motion
       | "natural', not just for e.g. the calf but also all the (minor)
       | other muscles?
       | 
       | Also. Would this change strain put on e.g knee joints, ankles,
       | hips or spine?
        
       | wartywhoa23 wrote:
       | "In 2027, mechanically-augmented people all over the world
       | suffered from extreme psychotic delusions, lost control of
       | themselves, and started attacking people. Millions died. Hundreds
       | of thousands more were injured and maimed. In the wake of this
       | global catastrophe, society has become divided by hatred,
       | prejudice, and fear, with many countries now enacting harsh laws.
       | The most notable of these laws is the highly controversial "Human
       | Restoration Act", aimed at isolating "Augs" and keeping them away
       | from "Naturals"."
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MU5MgRV6U
        
       | gacklesschlong wrote:
       | Cool! More e-waste please.
        
       | amadeuspagel wrote:
       | I like this. I like walking, and I already walk quite fast, but
       | I'd like to see more while I walk. (Though, as I'm thinking about
       | it right now, I might also just consciously practice walking
       | faster.)
        
       | Ericson2314 wrote:
       | I imagine this is dual-use technology. Surely there must have
       | once been a Darpa project along these lines.
        
       | b00ty4breakfast wrote:
       | This is godawful, I hate it. If you aren't physically disabled or
       | injured you have no business using this kind of thing. I do not
       | want to live in the world where otherwise fully-capable human
       | beings are not even using their own legs to walk anymore either
       | because they can't be bothered to get off the couch for an hour a
       | day or because they don't have the time to improve their health.
       | 
       | Absolutely disgusting nonsense. Get off my lawn, robot hippies
        
       | rdiddly wrote:
       | All the "athlete" and "farther" and "faster" talk is all well and
       | good, but kids are going to buy these, hack them, and use them to
       | create the next generation of impossible dance moves.
        
         | rkomorn wrote:
         | Sounds pretty exciting to me.
        
         | Koala_ice wrote:
         | Two possibilities can be true at once. I look forward to seeing
         | both
        
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