[HN Gopher] Betty White's shoulder bag is a time capsule of Worl...
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       Betty White's shoulder bag is a time capsule of World War II (2023)
        
       Author : thunderbong
       Score  : 282 points
       Date   : 2025-10-17 04:28 UTC (7 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (americanhistory.si.edu)
 (TXT) w3m dump (americanhistory.si.edu)
        
       | macintux wrote:
       | (2023)
        
         | CaptainOfCoit wrote:
         | Alternatively 1941-1945
        
           | incanus77 wrote:
           | Or, if World War-indexed, 2.
        
             | eszed wrote:
             | Fun fact: some historians would 0-index this array, with
             | the Seven Years War being first truly global conflict.
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years%27_War
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Added above. Thanks!
        
       | hoofedear wrote:
       | Thanks for sharing this, really fascinating stuff. I'm glad her
       | estate is willing to donate these sorts of things.
        
       | randomdrake wrote:
       | Betty White holds such a highly regarded "Hollywood Star" place
       | for me. It was fascinating to see her brought to life through her
       | very ordinary belongings. Fun read.
        
         | anigbrowl wrote:
         | I worked on a film project with her about 15 years ago and I'm
         | happy to report that she was just as great behind the camera as
         | she was in front of it.
        
         | bcraven wrote:
         | Perhaps there were spares in case anyone lost theirs? I don't
         | know enough about the military to say whether that's likely,
         | but as sensible chaps it seems a reasonable assumption.
        
           | jacquesm wrote:
           | Wrong comment to reply to?
        
       | WillPostForFood wrote:
       | One of the lowest moments in human history, but everyone still
       | dressed well.
        
         | dcminter wrote:
         | I was going to throw in a rather glib "and the other side was
         | styled by Hugo Boss" but I figured I'd check if that was
         | actually true first and... only kinda:
         | 
         | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/gysdhn/how_d...
        
           | 1-more wrote:
           | Thank you! The Boss meme will not die. It STINKS!
        
       | ares623 wrote:
       | Why is this top item with like 8 comments
        
         | jacquesm wrote:
         | Because of the # of upvotes.
        
         | pessimizer wrote:
         | More comments than upvotes is actually a negative sign. Upvotes
         | can be (and will be) gamed, but there's a lot of voting ring
         | detection active here.
        
       | tdeck wrote:
       | I'm curious how the soldiers had extra insignias and patches to
       | give away as souvenirs.
        
         | volkadav wrote:
         | I can't say as to what it might've been like 80+ years ago, but
         | years back I was with a friend on a trip through a PX and there
         | was a rotary display (perhaps like you might see used for
         | postcards in other contexts) with rank insignia and other small
         | uniform bits for fairly low prices (single-digit dollars iirc,
         | though this was 20+ years ago). Even if they had to pay out of
         | pocket or deal with an irritable quartermaster, the urge to
         | give a small remember-me-by token to a friendly (and let's be
         | honest, beautiful) face when facing down imminent chaos and
         | barbarity is probably strong. Similarly, I recall hearing of
         | troops throwing their coins to kids along the embarkment route
         | in the UK as they headed to Normandy; after all, where they
         | were going they wouldn't need them.
        
           | iaw wrote:
           | I wonder if that display is because they would give them out
           | not why.
        
             | ssl-3 wrote:
             | The display probably exists just because soldiers need that
             | stuff, as a practical matter.
             | 
             | When they're required to be in uniform, then that's a
             | requirement.
             | 
             | So if yesterday a uniform got ruined (by whatever mechanism
             | that happens -- shit does happen to clothes sometimes),
             | then today they can scrounge together another one.
             | 
             | Or they put together a spare one.
             | 
             | Or whatever.
             | 
             | (But it certainly is romantic to think that extra uniform
             | parts exist for sale primarily to give as keepsakes to the
             | Betty Whites of the world.)
        
       | andyjohnson0 wrote:
       | Brings to mind this poem                   Handbag         by
       | Ruth Fainlight              My mother's old leather handbag,
       | crowded with letters she carried         all through the war. The
       | smell         of my mother's handbag: mints         and liptsick
       | and Coty powder.         The look of those letters, softened
       | and worn at the edges, opened,         read, and refolded so
       | often.         Letters from my father. Odour         of leather
       | and powder, which ever         since then has meant womanliness,
       | and love, and anguish, and war.
        
         | jacquesm wrote:
         | Wow. That hits.
        
         | metalman wrote:
         | there are generations of these in my keeping right now, going
         | back to the american civil war, my mothers and fathers things,
         | grand parents, great grand parents, great aunts photo
         | collections, momentos and letters, jewlery, old toys, and
         | diplomas, passports, handspun clothing, ancient crockery( no
         | makers marks....),etc, etc arrow points picked by my great
         | uncle john, as he followed a horse drawn plow.....not much else
         | to do back there right!
        
         | acedTrex wrote:
         | Random thought, but i've always considered poetry to be the
         | literary medium that is the most difficult to do in a way that
         | resonates with people. To pack so much emotion and meaning into
         | such a limited format requires, to me, an unimaginably skilled
         | grasp of language and emotion.
        
       | caned wrote:
       | I miss the people of her generation. I feel like we could use
       | their perspective, experience and fortitude right now. I sure
       | miss their music too...even though Bird Lives.
        
         | righthand wrote:
         | Even more reason to support the live local arts in times like
         | these.
        
           | righthand wrote:
           | Okay pathetic downvoters. If the commenter loves music of her
           | generation so much then they should actively look to support
           | local live arts that play that kind of music. But yeah never
           | mind lets only support Big Music Industry instead (or other
           | big entertainment industries).
        
         | tracker1 wrote:
         | I lost both my grandmothers this past 7 years. One about the
         | same age as Betty, the other a few years younger. It's amazing
         | how much insight you can glean from one-off comments in passing
         | conversation you can pick up, or for that matter drop.
         | 
         | I'm in the middle of Gen-X... kind of the last generation
         | raised "tough" so to speak. Also a generation facing massive
         | ageism, despite knowing and understanding technology as well or
         | better than the younger generations. First generation to make
         | less than that which came before. By the same token, I don't
         | think my generation has a lot of stand-out leaders in its
         | ranks. We've mostly been good by example, but starkly
         | independent.
         | 
         | All I know is that I miss both of my Grandmothers deeply.
        
       | iaw wrote:
       | Not to be crude but everything they mentioned _inside_ the bag
       | was from a serious relationship. I really wonder if the outside
       | of the bag was for the less serious relationships that were still
       | candidates.
       | 
       | Or was it common for soldiers to give out pieces of their uniform
       | to people they just met out?
        
         | metabagel wrote:
         | Seems like she was a charmer.
        
         | nineplay wrote:
         | I read an article about a similar WWII woman's service and more
         | than anything these women's jobs were to be warm and friendly
         | to a bunch of young scared solders who far from home and
         | wondering if they'd make it back.
         | 
         | So they'd smile and they'd flirt and they'd charm and they'd
         | dance and maybe the boys would feel less afraid or less
         | homesick and maybe they'd have something to look forward to.
         | 
         | I'd bet just that was enough for some appreciative solders to
         | give her a pin, if only to remember them by.
        
           | ashanoko wrote:
           | Lubricant for those walking into the void, into a inferno, a
           | calming spirit for those society had selected for slaughter,
           | a GOAT
        
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