[HN Gopher] A laser pointer at 2B FPS [video]
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       A laser pointer at 2B FPS [video]
        
       Author : thunderbong
       Score  : 114 points
       Date   : 2025-10-19 06:42 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | mjmas wrote:
       | The view from one end of a laser going between two mirrors
       | (timestamp 1:37) is a fairly good demonstration of the camera
       | having to wait for light to get to it.
        
       | Neywiny wrote:
       | I thought his method of multiplexing the single channel was very
       | smart. I guess it's more common on 2 channel or high end 4
       | channel scopes to have a dedicated trigger input, which I've
       | checked this one doesn't have. That said, there're digital inputs
       | that could've been used. Presumably from whatever was controlling
       | the laser.
        
       | dist-epoch wrote:
       | Techniques like this are/were used to film nuclear explosions
       | (but with a single explosion).
        
         | 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
         | Scanning a single pixel over an image? How does that work with
         | an explosion? The laser pointer is reproducible
        
           | bob1029 wrote:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera
        
             | snitty wrote:
             | But that bears no relation to what happened in the video.
        
             | masfuerte wrote:
             | The rapatronic camera had an incredibly fast electronic
             | shutter. To record a video they needed one camera per
             | frame. Rather like "bullet time" in the movies. The
             | technique is the youtube video is completely different.
        
         | throw327489 wrote:
         | Who detonated 2073600 bombs?
        
       | jfengel wrote:
       | Ah, two billion. The first several times I saw this it looked
       | like "twenty eight", which didn't seem terribly interesting.
        
       | MostlyStable wrote:
       | As I understand it, this is sort of simulating what it would be
       | like to capture this, by recreating the laser pulse and capturing
       | different phases of it each time, then assembling them; so what
       | is represented in the final composite is not a single pulse of
       | the laser beam.
       | 
       | Would an upgraded version of this that was actually capable of
       | capturing the progress of a single laser pulse through the smoke
       | be a way of getting around the one-way speed of light limitation
       | [0]? It seems like if you could measure the pulse's propagation
       | in one direction, and the other (as measured by when it scatters
       | of the smoke at various positions in both directions), this seems
       | like it would get around it?
       | 
       | But it's been a while since I read an explanation for _why_ we
       | have the one-way limitation in the first place, so I could be
       | forgetting something.
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_speed_of_light
        
         | snitty wrote:
         | >As I understand it, this is sort of simulating what it would
         | be like to capture this, by recreating the laser pulse and
         | capturing different phases of it each time, then assembling
         | them; so what is represented in the final composite is not a
         | single pulse of the laser beam.
         | 
         | It is not different phases, but it is a composite! On his
         | second channel he describes the process[0]. Basically, it's a
         | photomultiplier tube (PMT) attached to a precise motion control
         | rig and a 2B sample/second oscilloscope. So he ends up
         | capturing the actual signal from the PMT over that timespan at
         | a resolution of 2B samples/s, and then repeating the experiment
         | for the next pixel over. Then after some DSP and mosaicing, you
         | get the video.
         | 
         | >It seems like if you could measure the pulse's propagation in
         | one direction, and the other (as measured by when it scatters
         | of the smoke at various positions in both directions), this
         | seems like it would get around it?
         | 
         | The point here isn't to measure the speed of light, and my
         | general response when someone asks "can I get around physics
         | with this trick" by answer is no. But I'd be lying if I said I
         | totally understood your question.
         | 
         | [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KOFbvW2A-o
        
       | avidiax wrote:
       | He did a good job on his setup, but I have to think that adding a
       | spinning mirror would have made everything much faster and
       | easier.
       | 
       | He could then capture an entire line quite quickly, and would
       | only need a 1 dimensional janky mirror setup to handle the other
       | axis. And his resolution in the rotating axis is limited only by
       | how quickly he can pulse the laser.
       | 
       | Of course, his janky mirror setup could have been 2 off-the-shelf
       | galvos, but I guess that isn't as much "content".
        
         | ahofmann wrote:
         | But I think he does capture an entire line quite quickly. As I
         | understood it, he "scans" a line of pixels in seconds.
        
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