[HN Gopher] Xubuntu.org Might Be Compromised
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       Xubuntu.org Might Be Compromised
        
       Author : kekqqq
       Score  : 293 points
       Date   : 2025-10-19 14:25 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (old.reddit.com)
        
       | eth0up wrote:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20251019143921/https://old.reddi...
        
         | dominick-cc wrote:
         | Thanks for this link. Opening reddit links on mobile is very
         | frustrating for me because it opens the app and messes with the
         | browser back button for me. Not sure if others have that
         | problem too.
        
           | pluc wrote:
           | That's because you're not supposed to open reddit links
           | anymore, you can just share your content directly with AI
           | companies and ad brokers and cut out the middleman.
        
             | exe34 wrote:
             | I had the same idea about the britcard - why doesn't the
             | government just buy the information from the ad brokers?
        
           | eth0up wrote:
           | I'm a grovelling Linux fiend and usually support related
           | posts. I tried to visit the url and saw it was blocked.
           | Didn't want the post to die so archived it asap.
           | 
           | Note too, that NextDNS blocks archive.is et al by default
           | unless you manually add redirects.
           | 
           | Whatta world
        
             | aspenmayer wrote:
             | I've noticed that even on VPNs, US exit points sometimes
             | block archive.is. Not sure if that is DNS related or what.
             | Non-US VPN exit points don't seem to be blocked at those
             | times that the site navigation fails on US ones.
             | 
             | I believe NextDNS is headquartered in the US, which may be
             | related to the site nav issues we're both experiencing.
             | 
             | Curiously, uBlock Origin and my blocklists seem to block
             | content on archive.is from loading from mail.ru, which may
             | be related to the blocks, but I have never heard anyone on
             | HN or elsewhere mention this, so I am, so that it can be
             | known and explained if any explanation exists for why
             | mail.ru scripts on archive.is are present. I don't seem to
             | see those scripts on the Tor version of archive.today,
             | which archive.is is a mirror of today; apparently the
             | original domain is the .is one, in any case.
             | 
             | Consider my curiousity piqued!
             | 
             | More info about the archive.is|.today mirrors including the
             | Tor (.onion) version of the site are on the Wikipedia entry
             | for the site:
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today
             | 
             | > archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.
             | onion
        
           | marksbrown wrote:
           | For the moment "yesterday for old reddit" on firefox android
           | works quite well.
        
           | ntoskrnl_exe wrote:
           | Try pressing on the original link and opening it in another
           | tab, that usually bypasses opening the app for me.
        
           | ants_everywhere wrote:
           | My solution is just to uninstall the app
        
           | layer8 wrote:
           | On iOS Safari, long-press the link and select Open (or Open
           | in Background). That will open the link in the browser
           | instead of in the app, and Safari will remember that
           | preference for the app. Select Open in Reddit to revert.
           | 
           | Also, don't install the app? Use Sink It instead:
           | https://gosinkit.com/
        
           | Doohickey-d wrote:
           | On Android "Redreader" is the only third-party Reddit app
           | that somehow survived the third-party-app-purge. Still free
           | and open source, and much more pleasant than the official
           | one.
           | 
           | Would definitely recommend.
        
             | curious_ralts wrote:
             | Thanks for this, I was resorting to creating a PWA on old
             | reddit (which has horrible ergonomics for mobile) per
             | subreddit (you can't rename them so I remember which is
             | which by position) thinking all the reddit clients that
             | don't require login are gone.
        
       | zvmaz wrote:
       | That is why I use Qubes OS [1] in order to have a certain peace
       | of mind.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/
       | 
       | EDIT: further comment below:
       | 
       | On second thought, Qubes OS does not prevent such types of
       | malicious downloads; it can also happen to Qubes images. Verify
       | your downloads with checksums and cryptographic signatures [2].
       | 
       | [2] https://doc.qubes-os.org/en/latest/project-
       | security/verifyin...
        
         | zvmaz wrote:
         | On second thought, Qubes OS does not prevent such types of
         | malicious downloads; it can also happen to Qubes images. Verify
         | your downloads with checksums and cryptographic signatures [1].
         | 
         | [1] https://doc.qubes-os.org/en/latest/project-
         | security/verifyin...
        
         | kachapopopow wrote:
         | qubes is just as vulnerable as xubuntu in this case (poor
         | website security) no?
        
           | zvmaz wrote:
           | Yes indeed. Qubes has a good article on verifying
           | distribution images not only with checksums but also with
           | cryptographic signatures that verify the checksum files [1].
           | 
           | [1] https://doc.qubes-os.org/en/latest/project-
           | security/verifyin...
        
             | xyzzy123 wrote:
             | But aren't you still trusting the website for instructions
             | about how to verify the cryptographic signatures?
        
               | KAMSPioneer wrote:
               | The idea (outlined in the QubesOS documentation) is to
               | clone the git repo of their website, verify the PGP
               | commit signatures, then render the website yourself. Then
               | you can be reasonably sure the website is legitimate,
               | modulo a DoS attack stopping you from receiving updates
               | to the website code, I suppose.
               | 
               | Getting the correct PGP public key appears to be an
               | exercise left to the reader, but if you are already
               | running e.g. Fedora, you can view the packaged QubesOS
               | distro keys distributed by your current OS, cross-
               | reference that with a second source such as a PGP
               | keyserver, and unless you're being Mossaded upon you're
               | probably good if they match.
        
               | zahlman wrote:
               | It's a standard procedure that could be learned in many
               | other ways.
        
           | nekusar wrote:
           | Check a history on archive.org and validate the checksum
           | wasnt changed to be the potentially malicious iso?
           | 
           | Its not perfect... but its better than nothing.
        
             | kachapopopow wrote:
             | so.. same a linux mint / xubuntu?
        
           | baobun wrote:
           | We should really compare it to Windows here, since that's the
           | target. Or a classic Linux dist as baseline.
           | 
           | Using Qubes would limit the blast radius for a scenario like
           | this. In QubesOS, you would use disposable VMs (with no
           | access to your crypto wallets or other user files) to
           | download and flash an ISO. So even if this malware was
           | targeting Linux, it wouldn't get zit and disappear when you
           | finish flashing and shut down that VM (as long as there isn't
           | an unpatched exploit breaking the VM isolation involved).
           | 
           | Of course, if the ISO is bad then this won't save you from
           | compromise once you boot it. But that's not what happened
           | here.
        
       | crtasm wrote:
       | There's a sticked comment on the source thread:
       | https://old.reddit.com/r/xubuntu/comments/1oa43gt/xubuntuorg...
        
         | hamdingers wrote:
         | > Thanks everyone. We're beholden to our hosting environment
         | for upgrades and it looks like there was a bit of a slip-up
         | here. It's being worked on, but for now the Downloads page is
         | disabled.
         | 
         | Calling this a "slip-up" is an outrageous downplay. If anything
         | this makes me suspicious of the moderator who posted the
         | comment too. One does not accidentally prepare a zip file with
         | a malicious exe and xubuntu-specific language, upload it to a
         | server, and point a torrent link at it.
        
           | justin66 wrote:
           | Mistakes were made!
        
             | mito88 wrote:
             | I heard tings
        
           | lioeters wrote:
           | > looks like there was a bit of a slip-up
           | 
           | Indeed that is a suspicious or at least untrustworthy way to
           | deflect the seriousness of a malware infection that
           | potentially affects all users of an OS distribution.
        
             | zarzavat wrote:
             | Either way, nobody should use this distro ever again. It
             | should be forked from a known good commit under a new
             | maintainer.
        
               | integralid wrote:
               | Nobody injected any malicious code into the repository.
               | This is a website being hacked. As you certainly know,
               | after reading TFA.
        
           | OsrsNeedsf2P wrote:
           | > Calling this a "slip-up" is an outrageous downplay. If
           | anything this makes me suspicious of the moderator who posted
           | the comment too.
           | 
           | You're making an assumption that this moderator is anything
           | more than a Xubuntu enthusiast who wants to downplay outrage
           | on Reddit. Keep in mind Xubuntu is mostly a community effort,
           | not a large corporation with seniors who know how to handle
           | this "best".
        
             | hamdingers wrote:
             | I am not making any assumptions, you are failing to do
             | research.
             | 
             | Start by googling the username of the account. They are the
             | Xubuntu Marketing and Website lead. This is the domain they
             | are responsible for and, given their long history, they
             | should know better.
        
               | roryirvine wrote:
               | To what extent is Xubuntu affiliated with Ubuntu?
               | 
               | This sort of thing must risk harming Canonical's
               | reputation, so you'd think they'd want to use whatever
               | leverage they have to enforce better practices.
        
               | AAAAaccountAAAA wrote:
               | It is an official flavor[1], that is, maintained as a
               | community effort, but endorsed by Ubuntu. The related
               | packages are hosted in Ubuntu's universe repository[2].
               | There is indeed a risk of reputation damage.
               | 
               | 1. https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors
               | 
               | 2. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-
               | desktop
        
               | Vinnl wrote:
               | I used to be responsible for the Xubuntu.org website, way
               | back when. I was a teenager back then.
               | 
               | Which is to say, I'm fairly sure that they're still just
               | a volunteer community member.
        
               | fragmede wrote:
               | Okay, they're not getting paid. That's worse! This gives
               | them an incentive to be the one to inject malware to
               | steal bitcoins because they haven't been compensated for
               | all their hard work.
        
               | Vinnl wrote:
               | I think you might be in for a shock when you learn how
               | many Xubuntu-sized projects rely on unpaid volunteers.
        
               | kjs3 wrote:
               | So, of course, you stay far, far away from any open
               | source software and their maintainders, since many/most
               | of them don't get paid and are obviously nothing but one
               | giant perverse incentive. Never use them right? Because
               | we wouldn't want to think you're just a hypocrite dog-
               | piling on someones bad day.
        
             | Barrin92 wrote:
             | >Keep in mind Xubuntu is mostly a community effort, not a
             | large corporation with seniors who know how to handle this
             | "best".
             | 
             | which is why the whole distro zoo and "stick it to the man"
             | theatre has always been a nightmare. Running some barely
             | maintained operating system that is an nth-degree spin-off
             | is like buying a pacemaker from craigslist. The people who
             | go "I don't trust Canonical/Google" and then go download
             | some binary blob browser fork/OS uploaded by an anonymous
             | guy from the internet is way too large.
        
               | pessimizer wrote:
               | > which is why the whole distro zoo and "stick it to the
               | man" theatre has always been a nightmare.
               | 
               | The real obnoxiousness is that Ubuntu doesn't keep these
               | desktop and otherwise specialized variants partially in-
               | house like they once did. It isn't like they don't have
               | the money or the staff. It's just not part of their world
               | takeover plan anymore; no deviation allowed.
               | 
               | Just get away from Ubuntu, install Debian, and choose
               | XFCE when installing. Please.
        
               | aborsy wrote:
               | On the other hand, there are far few developers working
               | on XFCE compared to desktop environments like KDE or
               | gnome. The more obscure places might be better places to
               | hide malware, nobody would notice, unlike in XUbuntu.
        
               | toyg wrote:
               | _> It 's just not part of their world takeover plan
               | anymore_
               | 
               | That's because they don't have a world takeover plan
               | anymore. That plan failed, so they came up with other
               | ones (mobile! Subscriptions!) and those failed too - so
               | now they're just trying to survive.
               | 
               | I honestly prefer for Ubuntu to be just another Linux
               | player doing what most Linux players do (i.e. looking
               | after n.1 and focusing on internal consistency), rather
               | than their original borg-like form that tried to co-opt
               | the entire ecosystem. As much as I enjoy a reliable
               | Debian-like infrastructure everywhere, there is value in
               | the fundamental diversity of distros focused on different
               | ways to "do Linux".
        
               | waynesonfire wrote:
               | Yeah totally. Hey we got hacked but we're just couple
               | guys donating our time.. put that on your homepage.
        
               | Vinnl wrote:
               | That problem runs far beyond distros, of course. Enter
               | relevant xkcd.
        
               | Vinnl wrote:
               | (This one, for today's lucky 10 000:
               | https://xkcd.com/2347/)
        
               | autoexec wrote:
               | > Running some barely maintained operating system that is
               | an nth-degree spin-off is like buying a pacemaker from
               | craigslist.
               | 
               | If my options are between a barely maintained linux
               | operating system which might compromise my data and a
               | barely maintained windows operating system that is
               | designed to compromise my data I'll take my chances with
               | linux. At this point no one can be assured of their
               | safety and all anyone can do is choose the lesser evil
               | and hope for the best.
        
               | oblio wrote:
               | It's a stretch to call Windows a "barely maintained
               | operating systems". Windows probably has more paid
               | contributors to the Start menu than Ubuntu has total
               | employees. The Windows software is generally rock solid,
               | if frequently spammy (which an advanced Windows user can
               | mostly fix in 30 minutes, especially in Europe).
        
               | autoexec wrote:
               | Not a great day to try to argue how well maintained and
               | "rock solid" windows is considering the issues it's
               | having (see https://www.techpowerup.com/342032/windows-11
               | -25h2-october-u...) not to mention all the other updates
               | that've caused data loss or broken things and that's just
               | windows 11! Just paying a bunch of people to push out
               | updates isn't enough for a well maintained OS.
        
               | robinsonb5 wrote:
               | > The Windows software is generally rock solid
               | 
               | You're saying this literally a few days after Microsoft
               | pushed out a Win11 update that broke localhost.
        
               | 1718627440 wrote:
               | And yet that "binary blob browser fork/OS uploaded by an
               | anonymous guy from the internet" is still more respectful
               | to my privacy, than the average large proprietary OS.
               | Guess which one I will be using?
        
         | LambdaComplex wrote:
         | Calling this "a bit of a slip-up" while neither confirming nor
         | denying the presence of malware is weird at best and incredibly
         | suspicious at worst.
        
           | DoctorOetker wrote:
           | perhaps the attacker has compromised maintainer credentials /
           | logins?
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | Let's not kid ourselves. A state level actor who is playing the
       | long game can compromise any distro, package, etc. without us
       | knowing about it.
        
         | CaptainOfCoit wrote:
         | Sure, but realistically, how many of us right here have state
         | level actors in our threat models? I sure don't, because it'd
         | be impossible to live a normal life then.
        
           | iamnothere wrote:
           | But state level actors _could_ target you, so you should
           | immediately abandon any hope of privacy, disable your ad
           | blockers, stop using Signal, install Windows 11, cease any
           | complaints about the government, and eat the bugs.
        
           | ranger_danger wrote:
           | How would you know?
        
             | brookst wrote:
             | Don't most of us know what's in our threat model?
             | 
             | Nobody spends energy worrying that the universe is an evil
             | compiler that warps reality specifically to target us.
             | Because 1) it's unlikely, and 2) if it were true there's no
             | change in defensive posture that would help. It's the same
             | for most individuals when considering being targeted by
             | state actors. Unlikely, and not defensible, so no point
             | hand wringing.
        
               | jijijijij wrote:
               | Also, no state-actor would ever blow an immensely costly
               | and rare backdoor like that on us peasants here. Even, if
               | you would threaten to kill all the puppies. That's the
               | sort of thing they reserve for state-level shenanigans,
               | 100% targeting servers, infrastructure and industry, not
               | individuals.
               | 
               | Though, I also doubt, they would just shelve these epic
               | exploits, since a universal Linux backdoor likely puts
               | themself at risk too, unless you can pull off a grand
               | conspiracy, or deliver patched packages to your own
               | people without questions asked. Maybe a completely locked
               | down country like North Korea could do it. I doubt many
               | other countries got an incentive, unless in preparation
               | of a specific attack.
        
               | lukan wrote:
               | "Nobody spends energy worrying that the universe is an
               | evil compiler that warps reality specifically to target
               | us"
               | 
               | I have not heard that specific scenario yet, but indeed
               | quite similar ones from very depressed/mentally ill
               | people. Basically that the whole universe was created to
               | torture them specifically. (Probably there is even a
               | medical term for that)
               | 
               | But yes, a sane person should rather be concerned to not
               | fall scam to one of the various criminal groups. That is
               | a real cyber threat for most people and companies.
               | 
               | So minding basic security helps, even if the NSA will
               | likely get past that in no time.
        
           | mixedbit wrote:
           | As Stuxnet showed us, you don't need to run a nuclear program
           | to be infected by malware developed by state level actors.
        
         | timefirstgrav wrote:
         | Jia Tan with the XZ backdoor was caught because some
         | performance obsessed person noticed a tiny delay... I'm sure
         | they learned their lesson and are ensuring their next backdoor
         | doesn't impact performance.
        
           | 3eb7988a1663 wrote:
           | That is the insidious question - how many parallel efforts
           | were/are in play when xz was going down? Surely that was not
           | the only long term plan to compromise an "unrelated"
           | component of system security. The Jia Tan organization might
           | have already inserted back doors into dozens of different
           | projects by now.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | That kind of defeatism isn't helpful.
         | 
         | The present case also just seems malware easily detected by
         | VirusTotal:
         | https://old.reddit.com/r/xubuntu/comments/1oa43gt/xubuntuorg...
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | Sticking-your-head-in-the-sand-ism isn't helpful either.
           | 
           | But nobody wants to talk about true security. For example,
           | why does a Python module that renders progress bars (for
           | example) need my full trust about what it does to the rest of
           | my system? Etc.
        
             | brookst wrote:
             | What's the term for the fallacy that _this_ problem can be
             | ignored because _that_ problem is so much worse?
             | 
             | Sorry, patient, why are we talking about setting your
             | broken arm when you are genetically predisposed to cancer
             | that's going to kill you anyway?
        
               | amelius wrote:
               | Nobody said the problem could be ignored ...
        
               | zahlman wrote:
               | It is the "fallacy of relative privation", for the
               | record.
        
             | zahlman wrote:
             | > why does a Python module that renders progress bars (for
             | example) need my full trust about what it does to the rest
             | of my system?
             | 
             | tqdm is pure Python and available as a wheel. Or is this a
             | general complaint about sandboxing others' code at runtime?
        
               | amelius wrote:
               | General complaint. Has nothing to do with tqdm.
        
           | chorlton2080 wrote:
           | Look at all the mainstream scanners that failed to detect it!
        
             | layer8 wrote:
             | That's pretty normal in my experience. That's why you check
             | with VirusTotal instead of a single "mainstream" scanner.
        
             | rs186 wrote:
             | In reality, if Microsoft Defender (Security or whatever the
             | name is) can detect it (which does in this case), it means
             | it is flagged on most target users' machine.
             | 
             | Of course, there are people who disable built-in security
             | scanning and don't use another antivirus software, and
             | that's on them.
        
         | Fnoord wrote:
         | Which state actor? Not all pigs are equal.
        
           | exceldrawing wrote:
           | Your comment reflects that truth.
        
       | cozzyd wrote:
       | fortunately, in this case, it seems like the malware may be moot
       | if you use the iso to wipe your windows installation...
        
         | fainpul wrote:
         | But if you just try the live ISO and go back to your Windows
         | without installing, you're infected? Seems like someone wants
         | users to switch to Linux :P
        
           | cozzyd wrote:
           | Red Pill Linux
        
       | diogenes_atx wrote:
       | I ran the checksum for the current ISO file of the full Xubuntu
       | desktop version on the Xubuntu website, and the checksum appears
       | to be valid.
       | 
       | https://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releas...
       | 
       | [user@host]$ ls
       | 
       | SHA256SUMS SHA256SUMS.gpg xubuntu-24.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
       | 
       | [user@host]$ cat SHA256SUMS
       | 
       | b61e083d8a5ab003bad6ef7ea31ec21d7bfdf19b99d75987ab3fa3bbe85ec1bf
       | *xubuntu-24.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
       | 
       | [user@host]$ sha256sum xubuntu-24.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
       | 
       | b61e083d8a5ab003bad6ef7ea31ec21d7bfdf19b99d75987ab3fa3bbe85ec1bf
       | xubuntu-24.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
       | 
       | [user@host]$ echo $?
       | 
       | 0
        
         | zvmaz wrote:
         | From what I understood, it's the torrent link that downloads a
         | compromised zip file rather then the authentic image:
         | 
         | "Torrent downloads over at https://xubuntu.org/download/ are
         | serving a zip file with a suspicious exe and a tos.txt inside.
         | The TOS starts with Copyright (c) 2026 Xubuntu.org which is
         | sus, because it is 2025. I opened the .exe with file-roller and
         | couldn't find any .torrent inside."
        
           | zahlman wrote:
           | > opened the .exe with file-roller
           | 
           | ... This is a thing?
        
             | unleaded wrote:
             | don't know about file roller but you can do this in 7-zip
             | to peek at self-extracting archives
        
             | 1718627440 wrote:
             | Yes, an exe is just some glorified container format.
        
         | trebligdivad wrote:
         | And where did you get the reference SHA256SUMS from ? Did you
         | check the gpg signature on them against a good sig from
         | somewhere?
        
           | tuhgdetzhh wrote:
           | Good Point. The checksums posted on Xubuntu.org could also
           | compromised.
        
           | diogenes_atx wrote:
           | I downloaded the checksums and the ISO image from the Xubuntu
           | website: https://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-
           | cdimage/xubuntu/releas...
           | 
           | This url is on the main Xubuntu website, under "Xubuntu
           | 24.04": click "Release page," then select United States. From
           | there, you download the following files: SHA256SUMS,
           | SHA256SUMS.gpg, xubuntu-24.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
           | 
           | The output of the other checksum commands is shown here:
           | 
           | [user@host]$ gpg --keyid-format long --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg
           | SHA256SUMS
           | 
           | gpg: Signature made Thu 07 Aug 2025 06:05:22 AM CDT
           | 
           | gpg: using RSA key 843938DF228D22F7B3742BC0D94AA3F0EFE21092
           | 
           | gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
           | 
           | [user@host]$ sha256sum --check SHA256SUMS
           | 
           | xubuntu-24.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso: OK
           | 
           | (output omitted for results of Xubuntu minimal version, which
           | was not downloaded)
           | 
           | The checksum is a cryptographic hash generated from the ISO
           | file's contents. While the checksum for a specific, unchanged
           | ISO file is fixed, the checksum that is published on a
           | website could be deliberately altered by an attacker to hide
           | a modified, malicious ISO.
        
           | ntoskrnl_exe wrote:
           | According to the SHA256SUMS from Canonical's official
           | download page at
           | https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/24.04.3/release/
           | that is the correct checksum.
        
           | ranger_danger wrote:
           | how does one know any signature they find is "good"?
        
             | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
             | We are in a perpetual loop of inefficient check methods, a
             | bunch of steps, rediscovering what a supply chain attack
             | is, a bunch of steps and just loop back over again.
        
             | _def wrote:
             | Generally speaking, a signature is cryptographically
             | signed, when a checksum value is encrypted with the owners
             | private key. The according public key should ideally be
             | distributed in a chain-of-trust, so it can be obtained
             | through a trusted channel.
        
             | kwk1 wrote:
             | If you're using a Debian derivative these keys should be in
             | packages distributed with your distro with trust coming
             | from that
        
         | __turbobrew__ wrote:
         | If an attacker can upload a compromised ISO I assume they can
         | also upload a compromised checksum? In the age of https
         | downloads -- where the payload cannot be modified in transit --
         | it never made sense to me why ISO checksums are a thing. For
         | checksums to actually do anything there needs to be a chain of
         | trust back to a trusted entity.
        
           | normie3000 wrote:
           | > In the age of https downloads -- where the payload cannot
           | be modified in transit -- it never made sense to me why ISO
           | checksums are a thing.
           | 
           | Is there no way a download over HTTPS can be corrupted non-
           | maliciously, or can fail to complete?
        
             | basilikum wrote:
             | It can fail mid-way of course, but it really shouldn't
             | corrupt in any other way. HTTPS is authenticated after all
             | and malicious manipulation is harder to defend against than
             | accidental corruption. But this is reality and you can have
             | bugs and errors outside the transport of course. Your file
             | system could corrupt data, your drive could be bad etc.
             | 
             | For security you want signatures with a known, trusted key.
        
             | __turbobrew__ wrote:
             | TLS uses message authentication codes which should detect
             | tampering or bit errors. In theory, a cosmic ray could hit
             | the RAM of the device on the receiving end and bit flip
             | after the ISO has been decrypted but still in RAM.
             | Checksumming does not rule bit flips out though as you
             | could checksum the ISO and the bitflip happens between then
             | and when the ISO is actually used to install the system.
             | 
             | Maybe in theory you could checksum the post installed
             | filesystem, but Im not sure if any distros actually do that
             | or not and it would require deterministic install layouts.
        
           | kbolino wrote:
           | Mirrors.
           | 
           | Lots of small, volunteer-run, low/zero-budget open-source
           | projects cannot afford to pay for the server/CDN bandwidth
           | they would need to host all their binary artifacts (ISOs,
           | packages, etc.). They end up relying on mirrors provided for
           | free by third parties instead. By publishing the checksums,
           | they allow you to verify that the ISO image you downloaded
           | from some mirror is the same one that they originally
           | published.
        
       | retsl wrote:
       | the malware's main function seems to be to check the clipboard
       | for crypto wallet addresses and then replace them with attacker
       | addresses:                 Bitcoin (bc1):
       | bc1qrzh7d0yy8c3arqxc23twkjujxxaxcm08uqh60v       Litecoin
       | (ltc1/L/M): LQ4B4aJqUH92BgtDseWxiCRn45Q8eHzTkH       Ethereum
       | (0x): 0x10A8B2e2790879FFCdE514DdE615b4732312252D       Dogecoin
       | (D): DQzrwvUJTXBxAbYiynzACLntrY4i9mMs7D       Tron (T):
       | TW93HYbyptRYsXj1rkHWyVUpps2anK12hg       Ripple (r):
       | r9vQFVwRxSkpFavwA9HefPFkWaWBQxy4pU       Cardano (addr1): addr1q9
       | atfml5cew4hx0z09xu7mj7fazv445z4xyr5gtqh6c9p4r6knhlf3jatwv7y72deah
       | 9un6yettg92vg8gskp04s2r2qren6tw
       | 
       | can't guarantee it doesn't do anything else.
        
         | anonnon wrote:
         | As soon as I saw the headline, I assumed something of this
         | sort. Maybe it's naive, but I miss the days when you could just
         | trust (however unfounded) open source software. I never had to
         | hesitate before downloading a distro or a package. Now I only
         | install something if I absolutely need it.
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | The whole supply chain, in fact. The project's site isn't
           | necessarily the real one. the GitHub repo it links to isn't
           | necessarily the real one, the binaries it offers to download
           | aren't necessarily the real one, GitHub isn't even
           | necessarily the real one! There's currently a phishing copy
           | of GitHub up at hxxps://git.hubp.de/ that somebody is going
           | to fall for before it's taken down. If you want to be help
           | get it blocked, load that site up and flag it as unsafe in
           | Chrome! (It's hilarious that the site has a Cloudflare
           | challenge to get in, btw.)
           | 
           | It's a big bad dark scary Internet out there. Be careful.
        
         | riedel wrote:
         | Isn't possible to check in the block chain to check if the
         | attacker is actually receiving money? Just curious how much
         | money ine makes with such attacks.
        
           | gield wrote:
           | I just checked all wallets, they're all empty with no recent
           | transactions.
        
           | basilikum wrote:
           | Here is the BTC and ETH address for convenience for anyone
           | who wants to check: https://mempool.space/address/bc1qrzh7d0y
           | y8c3arqxc23twkjujxx... https://etherscan.io/address/0x10A8B2e
           | 2790879FFCdE514DdE615b...
           | 
           | They are empty as of now.
        
         | like_any_other wrote:
         | Do browsers still let websites read the clipboard?
        
           | integralid wrote:
           | That's not done in the browser, malware is hidden in the
           | Ubuntu download (but that's a rather amateurish work, image
           | was not compromised, malware was distributed as .exe file
           | next to it).
        
           | retsl wrote:
           | Not without approval, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
           | US/docs/Web/API/Clipboard_A... or
           | https://web.dev/articles/async-
           | clipboard#security_and_permis.... But that is not relevant
           | here.
           | 
           | Instead of the .torrent files, the compromised website served
           | a .zip file, which contained a .exe. When opened, it shows a
           | GUI to select a Xubuntu version and a button to generate the
           | link. When that button was clicked, the malware showed a
           | download link to the user and, in the background, deployed a
           | second stage to %APPDATA%\osn10963\elzvcf.exe and executed
           | it.
           | 
           | The second stage monitors the clipboard for cryptocurrency
           | addresses which it will replace with attacker-controlled
           | ones. The second stage is also added to
           | HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\ to ensure
           | it is run whenever the user logs in.
           | 
           | Both stages have some limited anti-debugging and anti-VM
           | functionality.
        
       | Polizeiposaune wrote:
       | oddly, the one "sus" thing flagged -- a " (C) 2026 " late in 2025
       | -- is consistent with practices of established book publishers.
       | 
       | I recall purchasing a textbook in September of year X and being
       | surprised that it was "from the future" with a "Copyright X+1".
        
       | sylware wrote:
       | Somebody did sneak a wayland compositor for xfce???
       | 
       | :P
        
         | iotku wrote:
         | Well actually...
         | 
         | https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
        
       | 1313ed01 wrote:
       | What scared me in that thread was the mention of the fake lubuntu
       | site that is still up since someone took over the old domain last
       | year(?). I downloaded and installed lubuntu just some week ago.
       | Luckily I am pretty sure I downloaded it from the real site. The
       | fake one only has downloads up to 19.04 or something.
       | 
       | Have not installed Lubuntu in a few years, so never noticed any
       | of the news of the domain change and take-over. Did not really
       | find anything more about it when searching today?
        
         | ginsider_oaks wrote:
         | if you use ublock origin you should be OK, it warns you when
         | you try to access lubuntu.net
        
           | hu3 wrote:
           | Indeed:
           | 
           | uBO has prevented the following page from loading:
           | 
           | "FAKElubuntu.net I wont give backlinks too"
           | 
           | The page was blocked because of a matching filter in uBlock
           | filters - Badware risks.
        
           | 1313ed01 wrote:
           | What is it triggered by?
           | 
           | I have not used unlock in years, since NoScript as a side-
           | effect of not running scripts tends to block almost
           | everything anyway (in particular ads), but maybe I should
           | install it again after all for things like this.
        
             | horseradish7k wrote:
             | the "badware risks" filter list
        
         | bstsb wrote:
         | that website, although unofficial, looks to be one of the many
         | sites online that stuffs a bunch of ads on a wordpress template
         | and links straight to the official download links after a long-
         | winded AI article about the software
         | 
         | also see Bloxstrap, a popular Roblox bootstrapper - its
         | official URL is https://bloxstraplabs.com, but many fakes rank
         | high in SEO (bloxstrap[.]net, blxstrap[.]com, bloxstrape[.]com,
         | bloxstrapper[.]com, bloxstraps[.]net, bloxstrapp[.]com,
         | thebloxstrap[.]net)
         | 
         | currently it isn't hosting malware, but this could obviously
         | change
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | "Linux doesn't get viruses"
       | 
       | Since Xubuntu inception a decade ago, facts certainly have
       | changed!
        
         | anjel wrote:
         | A regrettable sign of Linux success
        
         | bogwog wrote:
         | Well, the virus in this case is a Windows executable targeted
         | at Windows users trying to download Linux...
        
         | 1970-01-01 wrote:
         | Official, popular, longstanding (20 years!) Linux distro is
         | clearly distributing "a virus" via an official repo, with
         | nothing about the danger on its website?
         | 
         | Linux mantra: Nothing wrong here, and if there is, _someone_
         | will fix it eventually, probably, maybe..
        
       | benterix wrote:
       | With these reports, I always wonder - do people really keep their
       | software wallets on a machine they use every day? Personally I
       | keep it on a laptop that is used just for that and it never
       | occurred to me any other options is viable.
        
         | KronisLV wrote:
         | Never underestimated the impact of convenience. At the same
         | time, I'm so broke that any attackers could just look at my
         | mostly empty wallet and weep (or do automated attacks and
         | extract what little there is in the case of compromise).
        
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