[HN Gopher] Silicon Valley's capture of our political institutio...
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       Silicon Valley's capture of our political institutions is all but
       complete
        
       Author : FromTheArchives
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2025-10-16 20:52 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | bigyabai wrote:
       | If you think that it's Silicon Valley capturing the government
       | and not the other way around, you must have missed your Political
       | Science 101 course. They both sing the same tune because it's the
       | feds writing the script, not Sam Altman and Tim Cook conspiring
       | with Thiel.
       | 
       | All the seed funding in the world won't disrupt the monopoly on
       | violence. We're here because some dolts actually believed the lie
       | that Silicon Valley was on "our side" of the fight.
        
         | paxys wrote:
         | Exactly. Silicon valley is bending the knee to political
         | institutions, not taking them over.
        
           | heroprotagonist wrote:
           | More like, several wealthy people from Silicon Valley funded
           | campaigns to put a government in place which is now
           | encouraging Silicon Valley and other business to bend the
           | knee to the political institutions.
           | 
           | It's not always simple to be precise..
        
           | watwut wrote:
           | Silicon valley is not bending the knee. For quite a few of
           | these people, this is the government they wanted and worked
           | hard to get.
        
             | SpicyLemonZest wrote:
             | I just don't think that's true. Silicon Valley moguls vary
             | in just how vehemently they endorse skilled immigration,
             | but none of them wanted or suggested an illegal $100,000
             | H1B application fee. A couple did get tricked by promises
             | that the Trump regime would be more favorable to tech than
             | it's turned out to be.
        
               | convolvatron wrote:
               | as has been pointed out here, there is some subtlety.
               | surely the cost of $100,000 a head is more significant to
               | some businesses than others. and don't forget that the
               | administration made it clear that they can make an
               | exception to certain employers or sectors for whatever
               | reason
        
         | pessimizer wrote:
         | I wish all the Political Science 101, Civics 101, and Economics
         | 101 people would take another class. First of all, the
         | government doesn't have a monopoly on violence, that's silly;
         | the government has a monopoly on _legitimate_ violence. Second
         | of all, the wrestling valet and game show host and his array of
         | dimwits aren 't in control of anything, the people who pay them
         | are. The people who pay them are also the people who run
         | silicon valley.
         | 
         | If you hear that the government is coming down on somebody in
         | silicon valley, it's because everybody else in silicon valley
         | wanted him gone.
         | 
         | "The Feds" are people with no interests, no money and no power.
         | They are where they are to execute for American business (and
         | as we've sold off America, that just means any rich guy), and
         | it's literally all they've been doing since WWII.
        
         | chaps wrote:
         | Why does it have to be either-or? It's more of a revolving
         | door.
         | 
         | One of the clearer modes of how this all looks can be seen when
         | using public records laws to request information that was
         | created through a government contract. On one side, trade
         | secrecy is a legit thing. On the other hand, it's abused to the
         | Nth degree such that just about anything is "trade secret".
         | Government agencies will literally just ask the company's
         | counsel if records in a records request can be released and
         | they'll copy/paste the answer.
         | 
         | For example: I took an uber from an East Chicago, IN restaurant
         | to a Chicago, IL planned parenthood and then FOIA'd for the GPS
         | records that the city legally requires Uber to provide for
         | every trip [1]. In the request I included the trip identifier
         | that I found on the city's open data portal [2]. For months and
         | months they denied, denied, denied, even after a request for
         | emails gave me the _exact SQL query they wrote_ to identify my
         | trip.
         | 
         | Eventually when I narrowed the request down to the exact
         | fields, they finally agreed that they have the records, but
         | argued that the data (edit: just lat/lng of the start/end
         | locations) showing me going to a planned parenthood was a
         | _trade secret_. It would be trivial for Chicago 's counsel to
         | push back on that, but they seemed to have zero interest in
         | reflecting on the risks of holding this category of data.
         | 
         | [1] https://chicago.github.io/tnp-reporting-manual/trip/ [2]
         | https://data.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/Transportation...
        
         | cyanydeez wrote:
         | eh, weird way to describe fascism.
        
       | jimt1234 wrote:
       | I'm old enough to remember when Silicon Valley and politics were,
       | for the most part, two separate worlds. The only thing I remember
       | back in the 90's were the arguments about encryption strengths
       | and export controls.
        
         | janice1999 wrote:
         | I think that's an anachronistic view of things - politics and
         | Silicon Valley have always been linked in some way. In-Q-Tel
         | has been funding startups since 1999. Other government programs
         | also helped fund Google. Those political decisions to invest in
         | mapping, data processing and surveillance technology etc helped
         | create the Silicon Valley giants we have today. It also worked
         | the other way, with the USA v Microsoft antitrust kicking off
         | in the late 90s.
        
       | AfterHIA wrote:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles
        
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