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A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan
Tepe
Author : fatihpense
Score : 198 points
Date : 2025-10-07 02:43 UTC (7 days ago)
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| fatihpense wrote:
| From the article: "The arm and hand reliefs on the T-shaped
| pillars found in and around Gobekli Tepe have long reinforced the
| idea that these stones symbolized humans. This new find at
| Karahan Tepe, the first to feature a human face carved into a
| T-shaped pillar, is considered a turning point in Neolithic
| research."
| k310 wrote:
| I didn't get english. Just lucky?
|
| https://www-trthaber-com.translate.goog/foto-galeri/karahant...
| fatihpense wrote:
| Thanks, I can't change the url now. Since it is just a gallery
| with minimal information, I forgot to submit translated url.
| altairprime wrote:
| You can email the mods to change it if you like!
| metalman wrote:
| infiniscroll turkish archiology, which only seems right given
| the 12k years of human building
| dr_dshiv wrote:
| Is that the oldest known carved megalithic stone statue of a
| person?
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| Keyword "megalith". We have older carved statues. We have older
| carved, stone statues. We have older, carved stone statues
| depicting people, as well as statues from this same site that
| are full body.
|
| It's from basically the same period and culture as urfa man,
| but at a site that's been initially dated a few hundred years
| earlier and is generally understood to have been inhabited
| first. It's contemporaneous with the famous T-pillars at
| Gobekli Tepe. The important thing is that this is the first
| T-pillar discovered with a human face, aside from the one with
| just a human outline.
| j-kent wrote:
| Can I just say that it is fantastic that they have included so
| many detailed pictures of the obelisk. How many times have you
| visited an article about a discovery only to have no pictures in
| the article.
| infecto wrote:
| My first exact same thoughts. Every time there is some
| interesting discovery it's often with only a single photo or
| none and a huge wall of text. Pictures speak louder than words
| in this case.
|
| I kept scrolling though multiple articles as they seem to have
| a format type for these types of articles where its numbers a
| small paragraph and a high quality photo. Simply love it.
| stronglikedan wrote:
| I haven't opened the article yet, since I usually check the top
| comments to see if it's worth the click, but my first thought
| when clicking through to the comments was, "this damn article
| better have pictures for once".
| vidarh wrote:
| I read this comment before clicking, and half expected it to be
| sarcasm exactly because of how common that is
| bugbuddy wrote:
| I believe this site is actually Thai. Look at the intricate
| carvings. The only people capable of such a feat that far
| back in time were Thai people.
| oliyoung wrote:
| That's clearly Turkish, which would make sense for an
| obelisk in an ancient site in Turkey, not Thailand
| basfo wrote:
| Great find! and I don't want to underestimate the discovery by
| any means, but...
|
| We humans are predisposed to see anthropomorphic shapes in
| things. I understand why that could be interpreted as a face, but
| at the same time, it could just be a random shape. It's just a
| "T" shape. Sure, it could look like a nose and a pair of eyes,
| but it could also just be... something.
| pavlov wrote:
| The translated article provides some backing to the claim that
| it's a face in a style that matches other finds in the area:
|
| _" The arm and hand reliefs on the T-shaped standing stones
| found in Gobeklitepe and its surroundings have long
| strengthened the idea that these stones symbolize humans. This
| new find, which was unearthed in Karahantepe, is described as a
| new turning point in Neolithic period research with the fact
| that the human face was carved on a T-shaped standing stone for
| the first time."_
|
| _" With its sharp lines, deep eye sockets and blunt nose, it
| carries a style similar to the human statues found before in
| Karahantepe."_
| card_zero wrote:
| Other stuff at Karahan Tepe has faces on:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karahan_Tepe
|
| And you can look at similar things from the Tas Tepeler sites
| in general:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C5%9F_Tepeler
|
| The T-obelisk things, with their long skinny arms, do seem to
| represent figures. I wonder why they have to be that stupid
| oblong shape at all. Dual purpose as roof supports? Or just
| tradition, tradition causes wacky things. Looking around the
| various carvings from related sites, it's also evident that
| they were greatly interested in penises.
| shawn_w wrote:
| >Looking around the various carvings from related sites, it's
| also evident that they were greatly interested in penises.
|
| Some things never change.
| Bayart wrote:
| > We humans are predisposed to see anthropomorphic shapes in
| things.
|
| This was sculpted by other modern humans.
| dooglius wrote:
| I wonder if it's possible to correct for the effects of time to
| see what it originally looked like
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| Archaeologists generally aren't that computer-savvy. I haven't
| seen any indications of paint residues on the pillars, but we
| know that many of the statues in these enclosures were also
| painted bright colors that would be missed by a digital
| reconstruction.
| card_zero wrote:
| What pigments did they have 12 thousand years ago? Only
| ochre, surely? So rusty red, dirty yellow, nothing else? (Oh,
| soot black, too.) I'd be interested if there was anything
| else.
|
| I see the boar statue is painted inside its mouth ... with
| red ochre.
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| The boar was painted with red inside the mouth, and
| black/white on the hide. Black in the ancient Near East was
| usually bitumen, though later groups like the Egyptians
| would switch to manganese dioxide. White was plaster. They
| also had yellow ochre.
| card_zero wrote:
| The boar's arms are long and skinny and curved, and kind
| of loosely attached. This culture's art style had a
| consistent theme of noodle-arms.
| bee_rider wrote:
| > Archaeologists generally aren't that computer-savvy.
|
| Why throw interdisciplinary shade?
|
| > I haven't seen any indications of paint residues on the
| pillars, but we know that many of the statues in these
| enclosures were also painted bright colors that would be
| missed by a digital reconstruction.
|
| Wouldn't a digital reconstruction just have whatever textures
| were selected? If there's no indication of paint residues,
| they can look for other clues of course. But, without any
| other evidence, what's the alternative, right? Guessing would
| be bad, don't want to mislead people.
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| It's not interdisciplinary. I'm an archaeologist, albeit
| not practicing these days. Wouldn't a
| digital reconstruction just have whatever textures were
| selected?
|
| Yes, but the point is that we don't know a lot of the
| context around these layer III T-pillars to make informed
| choices in depicting them. For clarification, I'm using the
| GT stratigraphy because I haven't looked up the KT chart.
|
| But just to highlight some knowledge gaps, it's usually not
| clear what damage was caused during the backfill process,
| what the exposure conditions for these pillars were during
| their lifetimes (e.g. roof or not, though these earlier
| rectangular rooms are generally agreed to have covered with
| wooden beams), and even the dating is a bit suspect in this
| area.
|
| Plus, the relevant team may not even have a LIDAR scanner
| to do that properly as that's fairly specialist equipment.
| Etc.
|
| Getting to the point where it's possible and reasonable
| isn't easy.
| daxfohl wrote:
| It looks just like a giant PEZ dispenser.
| mike978 wrote:
| or petrified Minecraft villagers
| mjd wrote:
| That's impossible, the mirror wasn't invented until millennia
| later, so there's no way the sculptor would have known what a
| human face looked like.
|
| They must think we're stupid.
| simonh wrote:
| We'll, that's me convinced.
| butlike wrote:
| And how!
| sethammons wrote:
| I don't get your joke
| throwmeaway222 wrote:
| I think he's making fun of historians that have really dumb
| reasons for declaring human culture is one way or another
| because of event X but it doesn't pass a sniff test. In this
| example, mirrors don't need to exist because people can look
| at other people (or more simply feel their own face). It was
| a 40% funny joke.
| djmips wrote:
| don't forget water and maybe oiled polished obsidian?
| Liquix wrote:
| they have played us for absolute fools
| MomsAVoxell wrote:
| The Tepe sites are really fascinating. Every discovery leads to
| so many more questions - how did they construct these sites, what
| were they using some of the structures for, and so on.
|
| At Karahan Tepe is the pit full of pillars, with the human-face
| head on the outer rim .. whenever I see this pit, I get a picture
| in my mind that the entire site was green and fertile, and this
| pit was filled with water. It would be the ideal device to teach
| kids to swim - and so on. It's such a fascinating human discovery
| - the mind serious wanders.
|
| I encourage anyone who is new to this subject to let the
| imagination run wild. What kinds of people could create these
| T-shaped pillars, carve them, use them in their building
| construction .. and then some day, decide to cover it all up with
| rubble and stone, to be buried for millennia and discovered by
| some strange, future civilisation.
|
| It makes me wonder what, 12,500 years from now, of our own crazy
| civilisation might be unearthed, and strange new utility assigned
| to their purposes ..
| itopaloglu83 wrote:
| To me, it looks like a festival ground, so I imagine people
| coming from all directions and multiple nomad tents etc. around
| it.
|
| What makes me wonder is that why did these hills survive, and
| why are we not finding similar things in north Africa and other
| civilization cradles.
|
| Maybe these were one off sites with limited use and were later
| just left alone, while anything in Egypt had continuous
| settlements so things just eroded over time, with the things
| like pyramids as exceptions.
| alephnerd wrote:
| > why did these hills survive
|
| Because it's low density arid scrubland that is primarily
| inhabited by Kurdish and Turkish herders, and was a no-go
| zone during the PKK Insurgency.
| dismalaf wrote:
| > north Africa
|
| Possibly covered by the Sahara, or if we're talking along the
| coast, underwater. Or covered by current settlements.
|
| > other civilization cradles.
|
| Because people still live there and built on top.
| Tuna-Fish wrote:
| The interesting places to find new archaeological sites are
| places where we know there were lots of people nearby, and
| where for some reason human habitation ceased and the sites
| were preserved.
|
| I hold some hope for new methods of underwater archaeology
| to uncover sites on the southern coast of the Black Sea and
| in the Persian Gulf. The latter especially because it was
| vast, rich floodplain during the last glacial maximum, and
| the oldest known true cities sprouted into existence on
| it's northern shore pretty much instantly after it flooded.
| I like to think that the oldest city ever built lies
| submerged in mud and water somewhere in there, just waiting
| to be found.
|
| (Not that there would be necessarily much to find anymore,
| they probably didn't build out of rock.)
| engineer_22 wrote:
| As I understand it, Tepe is local word for tel. Climate in
| this region makes them easy to distinguish since not a lot
| of plant cover making it easier to identify potential
| sites? Fertile crescent floods. Nile floods. Unique
| geography and climate in Turcep key to this?
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| We find similarly old structures across Eurasia, like the
| epigravettian mammoth bone huts. The late PPNA when KT/GT
| were seemingly built is when we find the first monumental,
| stone structures that we know of. It's entirely possible that
| ancient near east is where these kinds of things were first
| built. There's reasons I can go into why that's thought to be
| the case, but we can't rule out that there could be a
| streetlight effect happening. The ANE is where we expect to
| find this sort of early structure, and it's also one of the
| most heavily studied areas alongside North America and
| Europe. North Africa, particularly Tunisia where there's
| already a number of known epipaleolithic sites, is
| substantially less accessible for this kind of research.
|
| To directly answer your question though, the Tas Tepler sites
| survived because they were buried and the locations they're
| in are pretty bad places for people to live today. They're
| way up on hills around the urfa/harran plain where there's
| outcroppings of the stone used to build them, but also
| without water. People seemingly just carried water up the
| hills from cisterns farther down. The locations of those
| cisterns also suggest that there may be further sites we
| haven't found, because some of them don't correspond to
| anything we know of.
| lumost wrote:
| To what extent is our understanding of this period limited
| by survivorship? Granite doesn't weather significantly, so
| we see lots of metalithic stone structures with ambiguous
| dating. The near east had significant changes in inland
| climates so we find ancient cities that were not built over
| there. Soft rock/mud Brick structures can survive in dry
| climates - so we see evidence of the oldest civilizations
| in deserts.
|
| Colonial New England barely exists outside of active
| preservation attempts.
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| Short answer: it's hard to fully say, but most people
| believe that the holocene is a lower bound on this sort
| of thing. I'll try to explain, but keep in mind that I'm
| trying to massively simplify a huge field of open
| questions.
|
| The fundamental assumption underlying most archaeology is
| that changes in material culture broadly reflect people
| reacting to the world around them in intelligent ways.
| Most archaeologists therefore believe that Pleistocene
| people didn't build permanent structures out of stone
| because nomadic or seminomadic lifestyles were more
| optimal for the chaotic pleistocene environments
| happening globally. There's a few people who disagree
| with the universality of this idea, most famously the
| authors of _Dawn of Everything_ who argue for a more
| diverse family of lifeways in early humans, but that 's
| just quibbling about the edges of this overall narrative
| rather than rewriting it.
|
| And we'd expect to have more evidence than we do if the
| holocene boundary wasn't the effective start date for
| this kind of structure. Cave environments are much more
| stable, and it's where much of our evidence comes from.
| Gobekli Tepe (GT) and other Tas Tepler sites are made
| with local limestone, an extremely erosion-prone rock. We
| have sites covered by existing urban cities like Jericho,
| the earliest layers of which date from around the same
| time as GT. We also have older structures, like the
| epigravittean mammoth huts, and a fairly good idea of the
| forager->farmer transition in the near east across the
| natufian culture. GT is actually thought to be part of
| that transition.
|
| But yes, a lot of organic stuff from the pleistocene is
| gone. Organics were probably the dominant form of
| material used, so that leaves a huge gap we're still
| struggling with. Not really sure where I'm going with
| this, so I guess I'll stop here?
| itsnowandnever wrote:
| it was definitely a festival ground for (relatively) nearby
| complex semi-nomadic hunter-gatherers to meet up
| occasionally. I had a professor describe it as a pre-historic
| UN where these clans would meet up and feast but I think
| festival ground is an even better analogy
| MomsAVoxell wrote:
| >What makes me wonder is that why did these hills survive,
| and why are we not finding similar things in north Africa and
| other civilization cradles.
|
| In my honest, personally informed opinion, there is much to
| be said for ignorance of the subject - and I don't mean you
| personally, just generally - at large - human cultures have a
| very intractable level of mystery, among our languages and
| human history, as a whole.
|
| In anticipation of this fact, I personally invest myself in
| certain mysteries. The Tepe civilisation is one - but the
| things to be learned at Narwala Gabarnmang, are ..
| personally, I admit .. astonishing.
|
| We do in fact have tens of thousands of years of human
| history to comprehend.
|
| The issue is, we rapidly discard a lot of it in the rush to
| preserve just a bit of it.
| sethammons wrote:
| These Tepe sites give credence to advanced civilization existing
| before the last ice age. One example is the mostly dismissed
| theory of water erosion at the base of the Sphinx, suggesting
| older civilizations leading up to ancient Egypt. To my
| understanding, it is mostly dismissed because archaeologists
| found the idea of something older than the Sphinx to be not
| possible. Tepe sites challenge this. Wild stuff.
| pwillia7 wrote:
| I got pretty into this alt archaeology stuff and eventually had
| to move away from it.
|
| I totally agree that the tepes challenge our timeline of when
| humans made cities and whatnot, but so much of their arguments
| is the perfect fit of stones or how flat stones are and saying
| it _must_ be done by modern tools.
|
| I think they have left out how much you can get done from a
| construction standpoint when you have forced labor or no labor
| rules like we have had for some time now all over the world and
| especially in the West.
|
| When I was first in Delhi and went to the Red Fort, I was
| shocked when they said they built the whole thing 100s of years
| ago in 9 years. Think about how long it would take us to build
| something like this now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Fort
|
| So, I really want the ancient atlantis civ in the Sahara to be
| true, but the guy's I've seen promoting this are too removed
| from the scientific method to really be taken seriously.
|
| This guy does some good debunking of a lot of the
| Netflix/Youtube Alt Archaeology people --
| https://www.youtube.com/@miniminuteman773
| ch4s3 wrote:
| > challenge our timeline of when humans made cities
|
| Do they? We know non-sedentary people in the Americas
| sometimes built large mounds and extensive fish works.
| pwillia7 wrote:
| I think it pushed back when humans started building large
| structures together a few 1000 years. Oddly, there is no
| evidence of agriculture at Gobekli Tepe
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/Archaeology/comments/kxquwx/is_gob
| l...
| hinkley wrote:
| If it turns out to be earlier than we thought then the
| climate may have been different. These sites could be the
| swan song of a civilization in decay, or a group that had
| an amicable diaspora and used these places for social
| purposes.
|
| I imagine a culture that realized the land couldn't
| support them in concentrations, picked a spot to meet
| every spring equinox to party and maybe make romantic
| matches and then dissolved back into the surrounding
| countryside.
|
| Maybe this was their Burning Man.
|
| Essentially someone had to figure out the civilized part
| of civilization and the density part of civilization.
| It's a chicken and egg problem, and who is to say they
| did at the same time?
|
| As GP mentioned, there were somewhat similar arrangements
| in North America not so long after this time period.
| ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote:
| Not defending alt-archaeology, but there is a major
| difference between precision of construction and volume of
| construction.
| acuozzo wrote:
| > I got pretty into this alt archaeology stuff
|
| Links?
| pwillia7 wrote:
| This guy has a whole netflix show if you're so inclined
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMHiLvirCb0
| hinkley wrote:
| I only watched a little bit of his stuff before I
| realized people thought he is a kook. But in small doses
| some of this stuff can sound like sense.
|
| The one that got me was a supposed foundation legend from
| Sumer that a handful of strangers came and taught them
| civilization.
|
| The idea of a remnant people floating down a river to
| escape some sort of societal collapse and then being
| adopted into a new tribe for their usefulness has a
| certain something as a hypothesis goes. It's the
| "strangers" part that's a bit suspect since how would you
| not meet neighbors like that. Unless the river was the
| end of their journey and not the start.
| baq wrote:
| not OP but this guy is a fun read, heavy conspiracy vibes,
| but never going full wacko:
| https://theethicalskeptic.com/2023/02/02/karahan-tepe-and-
| th... (that said there are more wacko and less wacko pieces
| there, you have been warned)
| card_zero wrote:
| The Crystal Palace was built _and designed_ in 11 months,
| 1850-1851. I 'm not sure what the key factors making this
| possible were, but I suspect low wages and complete disregard
| for worker safety figured.
| itopaloglu83 wrote:
| Yes, some of it is due to lack of safety etc. must I must
| say the majority of it is the complete lack of competence
| in modern times because it's now being built by normal
| folks.
|
| I assume it was a limited number of people how knew how to
| make things and they kept roaming around setting new sites
| etc. Similar to bridge engineers etc. most of what they
| make just disappears in the background but they keep
| building things that makes our modern life possible.
| clickety_clack wrote:
| It's not lack of competence. There is an unbelievable
| weight of regulation in construction now. It would
| probably take 2 years of planning consultation just to
| get the idea approved. Then, each facet of the design
| would have to be coordinated and iterated between several
| different specialist teams and contractors, with the tree
| of contractors increasing as each layer of design takes
| shape. At the end, you also have the labor laws that
| people are talking about here.
|
| If we weren't too worried about things falling down and
| killing people, or about damaging peoples conception of
| the vibes in a city, we could have the kinds of
| developer/architect/engineer/foreman outfits that used to
| build this kind of thing.
| clickety_clack wrote:
| I also feel that people then were about as smart as we are
| now, so they could have solved problems in inventive ways
| they way we do now. Just because they didn't have an electric
| stone flattener, it doesn't mean that stones cannot be made
| flat in a fairly repeatable way.
| itsnowandnever wrote:
| just to nitpick: the Tepe sites definitely did not have
| forced labor. they had no social hierarchy at all. hunter-
| gatherers were fairly egalitarian.
|
| definitely sedentary neolithic people had forced labor. all
| the Sumerian legal texts that were some of the first writings
| ever included legal definitions of slaves, for example. but
| the pre-neolithic Anatolian people were nomadic animistic
| people with no social hierarchy.
| pwillia7 wrote:
| Agree and good point -- do we know how long the Tepes took
| to build?
| itsnowandnever wrote:
| as far as I'm aware, we have no idea other than that they
| didn't do much at one time. we can only deduce little
| modifications were done semi-regularly by the ancient
| pre-historic version of open source contributors. they
| had to lift 10+ ton limestone blocks and move them into
| place. but there's ample evidence of them trying to lift
| those blocks out of the quarry and failing, thus leaving
| behind broken would-be pillars of limestone for 12,000
| years. the best assumption is just that they had tons of
| wild cereals and gazelle to munch on so these people were
| able to work on this persistently over many generations.
| they had no social hierarchy or need for labor at all, so
| they had all the free time in the world to use stone age
| tools to build structures that rivaled the greeks 9,000
| years later
| pwillia7 wrote:
| Yeah I love the idea of ancient peoples living in
| abundance, doing animism, showing up to party at the
| giant ancient structure every season.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QfsSfhaDVY
| dimal wrote:
| How are we so certain that they had no social hierarchy at
| all? I thought that that was the main theory but that very
| little is certain at this point.
| itsnowandnever wrote:
| mostly because all the bones of all the dead were mixed
| in with all the others. implying no concept of "this guy
| was THE guy in my lifetime". but they presumably still
| had a meritocracy because while the bones were mixed in
| with all others of all generations, not everyone would
| have their bones were mixed in upon death. it was likely
| only the craftsmen or shamans that achieved that honor.
| but being honored is different from the "divinely
| ordained" hierarchy of god-kings that came later.
| triyambakam wrote:
| I think it's really exciting. It seems like we always assume
| technology advances linearly (even with valid counter
| examples).
| card_zero wrote:
| Or a more boring theory about the sphinx is that it was
| constructed at the orthodox time, around 2550 BC, and then
| later on it rained sometimes. This would be mildly surprising,
| as opposed to very surprising.
| itsnowandnever wrote:
| I wouldn't call these guys civilization. the Tepe sites are
| more like an ancient UN for semi-nomadic hunter-gatherers than
| a settlement. they visited seasonally for a feast and then
| left. the only evidence we have is that they were partying. but
| they had no social organization at all
|
| funnily enough, the lack of neolithic culture, social
| hierarchy, or permanent sedentary lifestyle (all hallmarks of
| "civilization") and all archeological evidence suggests they
| were much healthier and more peaceful than neolithic humans.
| that's why people link "Garden of Eden" mythology originating
| in ancient Sumeria to the ancient peoples' observation that
| people became "civilized" but at what cost since it made humans
| less healthy, more violent, and presumably less happy due to
| the novel concept of social inequality
| gnatman wrote:
| I find it hard to believe that these peoples had no social
| organization at all, and even harder to believe that you
| could state that with such conviction given how little we
| know about these sites. I'm definitely curious though! Can
| you share any links or reading recommendations?
| itsnowandnever wrote:
| I learned about it in school, I took some anthropology and
| archeology electives. and what I was told was since there
| were no defensive structures nor evidence of any security
| apparatus at all (such as an army) there isn't any evidence
| of a means to enforce a hierarchy
| AlotOfReading wrote:
| That sounds like a Childe-esque checklist. In general, we
| wouldn't expect a strongly hierarchical social
| organization in this time period, in upper mesopotamia.
| That's more characteristic of lower Mesopotamian early
| societies a few thousand years later when cities like
| Eridu appeared. What we see in upper Mesopotamia is a
| pretty strong continuity with PPN sites like GT all the
| way through the Ubaid period, both in terms of
| architecture and infant burials and they're thought to
| reflect socially egalitarian societies. Many people
| (myself included) consider upper and lower Mesopotamia
| two largely separate cultural areas throughout the PPN
| because they're so different and argue that the
| traditional definitions derived from southern cities
| (like Childe's) are inappropriate to apply to northern
| urbanism.
| fidotron wrote:
| The sphinx weathering is odd but it's the Osireion that is a
| total anomaly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osireion
|
| You would have thought that in a world with curious
| billionaires someone would pay for a ROV submersible to explore
| that, I certainly would if I were one.
| phendrenad2 wrote:
| By "human face" they mean nose and eyebrow ridge clearly
| indicating a face, and most likely human.
| ge96 wrote:
| The fools! Did they not check between the walls
| stevage wrote:
| > The face of the beprenese is located at the top of the Dikili
| stone; its sharp lines, deep eye sockets and blunt shape nose,
| and a similar style with human statues found in Karahantepe. This
| discovery reveals not only the technical mastery of Neolithic
| people, but also the way he expresses himself and the ability to
| think abstractly.
|
| I don't think we were in any doubt about the ability of people
| 12,000 years ago to think abstractly.
| begueradj wrote:
| How a society which is supposed to be of the hunters gatherers
| era raised such monuments and set up that site?
| holoduke wrote:
| 12000 years ago is long, but also not very long. Just a few 500
| grandfather's ago. Amazing what we achieved in that short
| timespan.
| candlemas wrote:
| Kind of looks like the Stonks guy meme.
| stray wrote:
| pez
| chupchap wrote:
| Yes, these are faces, but why do they look like pillars to me?
| Ornamented and sculpted pillars are pretty common across
| civilizations and I can imagine sloping tent like roof set up
| that are held up by these pillars. How does one separate a pillar
| and a obelisk?
| codedokode wrote:
| The age is pretty impressive, also I noticed that Firefox could
| translate the article without issues using privacy-preserving
| offline translation. Now nobody will know that I have read the
| article!
| pfdietz wrote:
| It looks like a Carbot Animations character.
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