[HN Gopher] Jeep software update bricks vehicles, leaves owners ...
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Jeep software update bricks vehicles, leaves owners stranded
Author : croes
Score : 93 points
Date : 2025-10-13 16:08 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| gnabgib wrote:
| Discussions (270 points, 1 day ago, 286 comments)
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45558318
|
| (103 points, 2 hours ago, 69 comments)
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45568700
| araes wrote:
| This is kind of a meta commentary on this subject, yet
| something seems wrong with the HN rankings lately.
|
| The link mentioned has 270 points, and 317 comments, was posted
| only a day ago, and yet now cannot be found.
|
| Managed to eventually find it using Hacker News Rankings.
| Here's the chart. [1]
|
| [1] Jeep pushed software update ... ,
| https://hnrankings.info/45558318/
|
| Story rises fast, makes it to number 2, then suddenly begins a
| rapid fall with no halting all the way down to 299, where it's
| no longer being tracked. (HN Rankings only tracks to 300)
|
| There's no mark of a [Dead] story. No comments that the story
| is not appropriate. Comments appear reasonable and polite. The
| graph looks like vote manipulation and story burying.
| YeBanKo wrote:
| Here is a very interesting thread with owners
| https://www.4xeforums.com/threads/wrangler-4xe-ota-update-10...
| Some interesting observations: * vehicle loses
| power while in motion * some owners reported not
| accepting the update, but it still proceeded to update
| * off hours support told them call on Monday
|
| Jeep has been riding on their reputation for while. If you still
| loyal to this brand, then it's on you guess.
| flaminHotSpeedo wrote:
| Out of curiosity, what do you mean by Jeep riding on their
| reputation?
|
| Based on everything I've seen and heard, Jeep's reputation is
| for unreliable vehicles that are increasingly difficult to
| repair. This seems pretty on-brand for that reputation.
| freeqaz wrote:
| Recent reputation, yes. But their old reputation was very
| positive. They made cars that would survive in any condition
| (which is why they were popular for military uses).
|
| These days, you're in one of two camps: Either you still
| believe (because you're ignorant or value the Jeep brand more
| than you value a reliable vehicle) or you've read the recent
| reviews and steer clear.
|
| Jeep has been duking it out for the bottom of Consumer
| Reports ratings for a while now, yet they still seem to sell
| cars. As they continue to betray their loyal customer base
| though, I imagine this will change. I wish American car
| companies were better!
| treesknees wrote:
| I think you're conflating a few things. Jeeps, as
| manufactured during World War II, were produced by Ford and
| Willys. The Jeeps of today, manufactured by Stellantis,
| carry on the name (and arguably the general shape) but are
| completely different vehicles.
|
| They "seem" to sell cars? Well, yes. The Wrangler and the
| Grand Cherokee are consistently near the top of list of
| most popular SUVs, year after year.
| nostrademons wrote:
| The point of buying the brand is to conflate reputations.
| water-data-dude wrote:
| Don't forget the third camp who just really like OLD jeeps!
|
| Somewhere in the ballpark of a week ago there was a car
| show near where I walk my dog (some charity event). Overall
| not that interesting - there were a lot of flashy low
| riders with the crazy hydraulics and stuff - but there was
| also this really cool jeep truck-thing from sometime in the
| 1950's, a Jeep Forward Control[0]. They had pics of it when
| they first got it, absolute rusty mess! But goddamn, I'm
| not even a car guy and I was impressed. Labor of love.
|
| Then my cousin has a more modern Jeep and lemme tell you:
| not great. I wonder what happened to that company? Garden
| variety enshittification, or is there an interesting story
| there?
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Forward_Control
| nostrademons wrote:
| Depends how old you are. Up through the 80s, Jeep still had a
| reputation as a rock-solid, durable brand. (The reality
| probably changed sometime in the 1970s, but it takes time for
| word to get out.) A lot of people's mental model is set
| somewhere in their 20s/30s, and they never really update it.
| So a lot of baby boomers still think of Jeep as a reliable
| car.
| grogenaut wrote:
| Among my dads friends (lawyers) in the 80s none of them
| would buy a jeep because they consistently died between 60k
| and 80k miles. one of them had one but he expected to only
| put 30k on it on his property. We had to pull it with a
| tractor on multiple hunts because the 4wd system wouldn't
| work.
| flaminHotSpeedo wrote:
| That's what I was getting at, though I wasn't sure if my
| perceptions matched the general consensus (which it seems
| they do).
|
| If a manufacturer has been broadly considered as unreliable
| for the past 20-40 years (JK's came out in 2007, and I
| still heard some people talking about jeeps as being
| reliable in the TJ era, though I'd personally disagree), I
| think it's fair to say they have a reputation of being
| unreliable.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45558318
| donatj wrote:
| My new Honda was very insistent I give it access to my Wi-Fi or
| share internet with it through my phone. I have declined this
| request.
|
| Everything currently works fine. I would rather have a working
| vehicle with potentially outdated software than one that does not
| work. I have no desire to invite problems where there are none.
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