[HN Gopher] Bird photographer of the year gives a lesson in plan...
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       Bird photographer of the year gives a lesson in planning and
       patience
        
       Author : surprisetalk
       Score  : 180 points
       Date   : 2025-10-06 02:53 UTC (7 days ago)
        
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       | jhawk28 wrote:
       | "Keeper of the Ashes" is my favorite of the pictures. Found the
       | photographer is selling prints here:
       | https://www.maximelegarevezina.com/en/tirage-gardien-des-cen...
       | 
       | It's amazing that you can just see something that you like and
       | then order it.
        
         | globular-toast wrote:
         | Funny that the print version has been photoshopped to move the
         | vapour closer to the beak.
        
           | close04 wrote:
           | The print is a different picture from the one in the
           | submitted article. That looks like it could be a different
           | angle (90deg) of the bird on the same burnt stump.
        
             | closetohome wrote:
             | Interesting. Apparently the photo from the article is
             | "Voice of the ash forest"
             | (https://www.maximelegarevezina.com/en/tirage-voix-de-la-
             | for%...) and the one linked above is "Keeper of the Ashes."
        
         | dfxm12 wrote:
         | These are professional artists. Selling prints is a major
         | income stream. It seems pretty normal to me.
        
       | freetime2 wrote:
       | That winning photograph with the bird in front of the solar
       | eclipse is really incredible. I wasn't sure if it was real or not
       | (some photography competitions will allow composites stitched
       | together in photoshop).
       | 
       | But the photographer uploaded a video on YouTube of him taking
       | the photo, and just looking at the environment (he's in a small
       | boat off the coast of Mexico) you can see it really did require a
       | remarkable amount of planning. And I think it is indeed a real
       | photograph.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voTNPeHR7Jc
        
         | regera wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing, can't imagine how bird photographers devote
         | weeks to plan for a single shot - may seem extreme. Being in
         | the right location at the right time is the key. Wow!
         | 
         | This skill is often underrated. World is moving faster than
         | ever. Another underrated skill is quick-decision making.
        
         | gyomu wrote:
         | For anyone curious, the competition rules are here:
         | 
         | https://www.birdpoty.com/rules
         | 
         | "With the exception of HDR, stitched panoramas, focus stacking,
         | and in-camera multiple exposures, composited images or AI-
         | generated images are not permitted in any category. Sky
         | swapping or removal of objects through cloning, for example, is
         | not permitted."
        
         | SwtCyber wrote:
         | Cool to see that kind of effort rewarded in a space often
         | dominated by post-processing tricks
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | It's not even a new thing. I remember an article, in Outside
           | maybe, about the controversy around how many photos in the
           | wildlife/landscape space were heavily post-processed in
           | various way.
           | 
           | I had a friend who prided himself in his (very good) nature
           | photography and he got quite discouraged with respect to
           | nature photography contests when so many people weren't
           | stopped taking photos "out of the camera."
        
         | baxtr wrote:
         | Stunning image.
         | 
         | Although, having experienced a solar eclipse and the associated
         | hysteria around protective glasses, I wonder how risky it was
         | for his eyesight to look through a magnifying lens.
        
           | pgalvin wrote:
           | It looks like he is using an EOS R5, in the video he uploaded
           | of him taking the photo. This is a mirrorless camera (very
           | common nowadays) so the viewfinder is merely an LED screen
           | with a live video.
        
         | tecleandor wrote:
         | Wow, the photo burst was insane...
        
       | Zak wrote:
       | This link seems worse than the original at
       | https://www.birdpoty.com/2025-winners
        
       | geeunits wrote:
       | I find photographers have a particular knack of seeing 'just
       | slightly into the future'. Almost like the eyes are constantly
       | analysing environmental studies and able to form a sixth sense
       | for patterns and predictability. Most notable would be Henri
       | Cartier-Bresson who coined much of the concepts of 'the decisive
       | moment'
        
         | EvanAnderson wrote:
         | I'm sure there's a talent to it, but practice helps a ton. I'm
         | certainly not comparing myself to Cartier-Bresson, but in the
         | very specific type of photography I regularly shoot (youth
         | sports) you learn the rhythm and patterns and what to look out
         | for. I'd imagine street or wildlife photography is much the
         | same. Patience, practice, and accepting that 99% of the picture
         | you make will be crap.
        
           | technothrasher wrote:
           | I'm not anything but an enthusiastic hack, but the 99% rings
           | true. I've made a goal for myself to get just one photo I'm
           | happy with of as many cat species in the wild as I can. It's
           | taken me about ten thousand shots to cross off lion, cheetah,
           | and leopard. Going to shoot bobcats in California for four
           | days in a couple months, and I suspect I'll get lots of
           | interesting photos, but I'll be very lucky to get "the shot".
        
             | maverick2007 wrote:
             | Have you ever shared "the shot"s you got of those 3 cats?
             | Would love to see them if you have :) Best of luck with the
             | bobcat!
        
               | technothrasher wrote:
               | Here's the leopard one:
               | 
               | https://imgur.com/9YkWlRf
        
             | pamelafox wrote:
             | Ooo bobcats! I live in the bay area near Tilden Park, and I
             | spent a while on iNaturalist trying to figure out where the
             | bobcats hang out, as my 6 year old is very interested in
             | wild cats. I realized sadly that bobcats are usually out at
             | morning/evening, when we are not in the parks. Still used
             | the bobcat stalking as an excuse to take a walk in Tilden
             | today though.
             | 
             | What's your approach to finding the bobcat locations for
             | your shot?
        
               | technothrasher wrote:
               | I'm going up to Point Reyes with a guide and a tracker,
               | so that I'll at least have a pretty good chance of seeing
               | the cats. Getting good shots is on me though!
        
         | herval wrote:
         | Bresson is from a time where you had 38 shots maximum, before
         | you need to reload your camera. It takes an immense amount of
         | attention, but also you're statistically unlikely to take the
         | kind of photo that you can get today (eg most of these bird
         | images).
         | 
         | My current camera takes 20 photos per second sustained AND
         | comes with a pre-buffer that captures 2s of images before you
         | press the trigger. It's wild!
         | 
         | (I don't take photos anywhere near Bresson's but still, it
         | helps)
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | I don't do much sports or concert photography these days--or
           | indeed a lot of photography outside of my iPhone--but I
           | observe that while I still have some photos from film days
           | that I think are pretty decent, being able to just shoot
           | thousands of photos of some event helps to get the few
           | keepers.
           | 
           | Getting expressions/the way people are aligned/etc. is just
           | so unpredictable that, even if you're in the a reasonable
           | location to shoot and the light is generally good, high-speed
           | shooting and maybe thousands of frames helps to beat a few
           | rolls of film. Even pros with motor drives were relatively
           | constrained.
           | 
           | As others have observed though, there's also planning and
           | just spending the time. The favorite photo I've taken in
           | Death Valley over many visits is a fairly standard
           | location/view but the sky is just _really_ unusual for the
           | area. I suppose these days (or really at the time given
           | enough skill and imagination), I could just have done a
           | photo-composite.
        
         | keiferski wrote:
         | I've done a lot of street photography, and yeah I think the
         | fundamental skill is scanning the environment, then predicting
         | what will happen in order to snap the perfect shot. For
         | example, you might see a fence making an interesting shadow,
         | then figure out how to position yourself such that passers-by
         | fit into the scene.
         | 
         | In practice, you end up standing around and waiting a lot.
         | Moving quickly through a city is almost guaranteed to result in
         | missing some great shots. (Saying this from experience.)
        
         | sohkamyung wrote:
         | I take wildlife shots but mainly for the record, which I post
         | on iNaturalist. On occasion, I do need to see 'slightly into
         | the future' for some shots, like predicting where birds and
         | flying insects might be when I'm tracking them for shots. (This
         | can be hard for pollinating insects flying from flower to
         | flower.)
        
       | rukuu001 wrote:
       | Wildlife photogs feel a bit like magicians, in that no one would
       | believe the level of effort required to get the result.
        
         | SwtCyber wrote:
         | Yep, wildlife photographers are just outdoorsy wizards with
         | cameras instead of wands
        
       | jacquesgt wrote:
       | Liron is an incredible photographer. Well worth checking out his
       | instagram at https://www.instagram.com/liron_gertsman_photography
       | 
       | He and another photographer recently did a project to photograph
       | a bird in front of erupting volcano. I'm really looking forward
       | to seeing that one.
        
       | jacquesm wrote:
       | My BIL is a wildlife photographer. One day he went into his
       | favorite area to photograph the local Bison. He was as quiet as
       | he could be moved into the terrain slowly and stopped every few
       | minutes so as not to spook the animals. Only to be suddenly
       | berated angrily that he was spoiling the shot... another, _far_
       | more experienced wildlife photographer had been lying in wait
       | there for days knowing the bison would have to head his way. In
       | spite of that bad introduction they became fast friends. Wolkow
       | has since died, he was one of a kind. I spent a night with him
       | just looking at some of his slides, he found so much beauty.
        
         | chromehearts wrote:
         | This reads like a poem
        
           | jacquesm wrote:
           | I can assure you that the words that Wolkow spoke were, while
           | colorful, definitely not poetry ;)
           | 
           | He'd been covered by a pile of leaves, had had bugs crawling
           | all over him and then saw his perfect shot ruined. His talent
           | for photography was apparently absolutely matched by his
           | talent for the use of the Polish language.
        
       | SwtCyber wrote:
       | That frigatebird eclipse shot? That's not just a lucky moment,
       | it's a literal alignment of science, nature, and patience. You
       | don't get that without obsession-level planning and deep respect
       | for the subject
        
         | weird-eye-issue wrote:
         | ChatGPT
        
           | vivalahn wrote:
           | You're almost there! But let's unpack that further.
        
       | YeGoblynQueenne wrote:
       | Title is wrong. They're all human photographers.
       | 
       | (pun only possible in English)
        
         | hshdhdhehd wrote:
         | Title is correct for about half the entries. Half are men.
         | 
         | (joke only works in UK slang)
        
       | Razengan wrote:
       | I love birds, birds are awesome, intelligent, and prime
       | candidates for taking over the planet after primates and
       | cephalopods, but they can be cruel motherfuckers (don't watch
       | birds eating other birds on YouTube), just like humans I guess.
        
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