[HN Gopher] I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach ...
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       I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music
       discovery
        
       Author : jordanf
       Score  : 539 points
       Date   : 2025-10-10 20:34 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | philips wrote:
       | I did something similar with Home Assistant and Jellyfin for
       | movies. https://github.com/philips/homeassistant-nfc-chromecast
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | super cool! thanks for sharing that.
        
       | nedrylandJP wrote:
       | Looks like a homebrew Yoto
        
         | dwayne_dibley wrote:
         | Yoto is genuinely one of the most underrated pieces of tech.
         | 10/10 for me.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | Yeah, we have a Yoto, and it's great. But their custom cards
         | are pretty expensive. And, let's face it, I wanted a weekend
         | project :)
        
           | PokeStick wrote:
           | Your project is super cool and really well executed. Thanks
           | for sharing. I've had success with cheap blank NFC cards
           | instead of the official MyYo York cards. I have a quick
           | breakdown in my recent comment history if you're curious.
        
             | jordanf wrote:
             | thank you!
        
           | crazybonkersai wrote:
           | You can use bulk nfc cards from China. I got like 50 cards
           | for five bucks or so. Taking them into use is a bit more
           | laborious (you have to record an official card first and then
           | duplicate the tag to a bulk card), but considering the price
           | is a no brainer.
        
             | jordanf wrote:
             | oh cool, thanks.
        
         | UtopiaPunk wrote:
         | We have a Yoto, too. We got it for my three-year-old and he
         | listens to pretty often. My 1-year-old found it recently and
         | I'm surprised at how much he likes engaging with it, too.
        
         | schainks wrote:
         | Yeah. We love our Yoto but I also can't hook up Spotify
         | streaming to Yoto cards, so this post is a very inspired way to
         | bring back the "purpose" behind collecting the music.
         | 
         | I think a workaround to the Spotify issue with Yoto would be
         | proxying a Spotify account through a raspberry pi or
         | lightweight cloud vm. The Yoto cards themselves point to
         | playlists in yoto's cloud, and the playlists can link to files
         | or stream URIs.
        
       | MangoToupe wrote:
       | This is amazing.
       | 
       | How do you anticipate your son will explore his own taste?
       | Inevitably he will want to hear his peers' songs
       | 
       | Regardless, massive applause for what you've achieved.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | Thank you! If his friends shared music with him, I'd be a happy
         | dad. I just don't see any of them hooked like I was. It's more
         | "single of the week" with them.
        
       | jones1618 wrote:
       | Love this idea!
       | 
       | This could also be a way for social discovery that studios could
       | promote:
       | 
       | Imagine a rack of album cards at Target where each costs a $1 and
       | lets you play samples of all the tracks on the album (read lyrics
       | and liner notes, etc) and puts $1 in your online wallet. So, kids
       | (or anyone) could sample different albums and then save up to buy
       | whole albums they like. Also, already redeemed ("used") cards
       | would still play samples so kids could share/trade them as a way
       | to say "check this music out!"
       | 
       | Can you imagine Billboard charts of Top Album Cards (Sampled and
       | Bought) which would be so much more impactful than a lame count
       | of streams or whatever. The charts would represent music kids are
       | actually trading and talking about.
        
         | nedrylandJP wrote:
         | The rack of cards at Target costs more than $1/ea sadly:
         | https://www.target.com/b/yoto/-/N-q643lentif4
        
           | kulahan wrote:
           | Sheesh. Surely you could build that device for like $15,
           | though I guess all the money would go into the speaker
           | quality. Maybe it sounds amazing.
        
       | tbarkow wrote:
       | I loved flipping through LPs at the record store and would
       | usually go through everything at my favorite stores. The flap-
       | flap-flap of the cardboard sleeves was so soothing.
        
       | gwbas1c wrote:
       | > I think we're unintentionally teaching our children to consume
       | music passively. My goal with this project was to teach them to
       | discover it actively, to own it, to care about it at the album
       | level. I think it kinda worked!
       | 
       | Some people also say that about _prerecorded music_ and whine
       | about when families had to gather around the piano to sing.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | ha, definitely fair! everything is relative.
        
         | UtopiaPunk wrote:
         | My three-year-old and I listen to music together, and he
         | (sometimes) really engages with what he is hearing. He'll pick
         | out the words and ask about what different phrases mean. I'll
         | say who the singer or band it, what genre it is, and instrument
         | is playing, etc. Or I'll turn it around and ask stuff like "do
         | you want to listen to jazz, or bluegrass, or classical
         | musical?" He's developing a pretty good ear, I think! And, of
         | course, sometimes we gotta dance.
        
         | emmelaich wrote:
         | Curse you pianola! If only we knew.
        
         | derwiki wrote:
         | Waldorf?
        
       | gwbas1c wrote:
       | An easy way to do this without needing to build a thing is to get
       | into vinyl.
       | 
       | One of the nice things about vinyl is that historians will have
       | an easier time figuring out what's on it than many of our digital
       | formats.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | ok but building a thing is the fun part
        
           | derwiki wrote:
           | Sure but parents of small children often don't have as much
           | time for the building
        
         | UtopiaPunk wrote:
         | We have a record player and some vinyl records in the house. My
         | three-year-old is starting to like them. Today, he even was
         | holding the record carefully by the sides. Made me such a proud
         | dad, haha.
         | 
         | My 1-year-old, however is pretty monstrous to the records. We
         | have some little kid vinyl that I got for cheap off a friend,
         | and we placed those within his reach. He thinks they're
         | interesting, but grabs the record or sleeve and bends them a
         | lot. It's whatever, it's fine. But I did make it a point
         | recently to move my favorite records to another room for the
         | time being :)
        
         | derriz wrote:
         | What's easy about vinyl? If you want a kid to have a physical
         | copies of music, then CDs generally cost between a third and a
         | tenth the price of the vinyl equivalent and are far more "kid
         | friendly" - not just the CDs themselves but the playback
         | equipment. Unless you want to have them listen on one of those
         | novelty mass produced plastic turntables that sound absolutely
         | terrible, a good stylus on a decent turntable is just a kid's
         | innocent bump away from destruction.
        
       | deep_merge wrote:
       | This is great, love that you're giving your old MP3s a new life.
       | 
       | For the album artwork, be sure to check if there's already a
       | cassette j card or ... minidisc album art that's closer to the
       | right dimensions.
        
       | badlogic wrote:
       | I love this! Not just because I also grew up in the 90ies and
       | like your music choice :)
       | 
       | As we drown in media and slop, I think it's super important to
       | teach kids how to be selective, develop taste. And I too found
       | that physical connection does help with that.
       | 
       | Great project and execution. It would be great if you could also
       | introduce a social aspect, i.e. kids sharing/swapping cards.
       | 
       | (Did something similar for our then 3yo, since it's one of a
       | kind, the social aspect is kinda not there. Yet!
       | https://mariozechner.at/posts/2025-04-20-boxie/)
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | "game boy for audiobooks" is so cool. Thanks for sharing. (dad)
         | rock on.
        
       | aerostable_slug wrote:
       | What a wonderful interface. Well done.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | thank you
        
       | lubujackson wrote:
       | Luckily I never got rid of my old CDs. They have been sitting in
       | a cabinet for decades and last Xmas I got my son a portable CD
       | player for $35. They have been exploring all kinds of my old
       | music, which is awesome.
       | 
       | I see it in your photos here - Dookie by Green Day is a big hit
       | with my boys!
        
       | blaze33 wrote:
       | Nice project! Reminds me of a startup whom I met the founders
       | several years ago: they had a system of hexagonal wooden tiles
       | you could put on a device to play a specific songs (also maybe
       | videos). I'm not sure the project is still alive but I found an
       | article with pictures of what I saw:
       | https://competition.adesignaward.com/ada-winner-design.php?I...
       | 
       | While digital files are obviously very practical and efficient
       | for our pictures/audio/video I can't help but see how different
       | our relationship to them is when a physical object embodies the
       | data.
        
       | oliverjanssen wrote:
       | Love this project! That line about unintentionally teaching kids
       | to consume music passively really resonates. I built something
       | with a similar motivation - Muky (https://muky.app), an app for
       | creating curated, distraction-free music experiences for kids.
       | Different approach (digital vs. physical), but the same core
       | idea: helping kids engage with music intentionally rather than as
       | background noise.
        
         | kulahan wrote:
         | I've never been _super_ into music listening, though I do love
         | singing. I 'm curious what you think is important about this
         | difference in approach. The idea doesn't come naturally to me -
         | probably for the same reason intentional listening sounds more
         | like a chore to me.
         | 
         | I want to be clear I'm not poo-pooing on the idea! I just can't
         | connect with it personally, and if you're that into the topic,
         | I figured you might have good insight into this idea, at least
         | from a personal perspective :)
        
           | AlecSchueler wrote:
           | For me it's just a matter of being able to follow what's
           | going on. It would be like watching a movie passively or
           | listening to someone read from a book without listening to
           | what they're saying.
        
         | rahimnathwani wrote:
         | Muky looks awesome for younger kids. The integration with
         | Spotify seems really well thought out, and I like the 'iOS 16'
         | feature!
         | 
         | I'm not in the target market for this, but I've heard other
         | parents wish for a way to curate their kids' YouTube
         | experience. For example restricting them to certain pre-
         | approved channels. I wonder if there's a clever way to do that
         | with a companion app, like you've done with Muky/Spotify.
        
       | dhosek wrote:
       | I've made a conscious decision to _not_ do streaming services.
       | Having all the music is not much different than having no music
       | at all. I don't even want all of my own music on my phone.
       | Instead, I use a set of smart playlists to give me a changing
       | selection of songs based on ratings, how long it's been since I
       | last heard a song and how new the music is in my library.
        
         | hatthew wrote:
         | > Having all the music is not much different than having no
         | music at all.
         | 
         | This is an interesting statement; could you clarify what you
         | mean? Taken at face value it seems like a falsism, but I'm
         | assuming you have an interpretation in mind that would make
         | sense to me.
        
           | spunker540 wrote:
           | Not op, but to me this resonates because none of it is
           | "mine", none of it exists in the real world. There's a huge
           | difference between the music I physically collected (from
           | libraries, friends, Best Buy, Christmas gifts, used cd
           | stores) and uploaded into my iPod and lived with for years vs
           | music I searched on a whim, listened to for a month while it
           | was in my "recents" and then eventually forgot about once it
           | was pushed out by something else.
        
           | opan wrote:
           | It's like having a library you built up over the years based
           | on your tastes and the era you grew up in that you can idly
           | look through vs having a search bar to YouTube.
           | 
           | I hear the same argument a lot when it comes to game
           | emulation. People will say you shouldn't put full ROM sets on
           | your device because it makes it harder to decide what to play
           | and to stick to a game. Compare that to browsing the 30
           | GameCube games you have in a cupboard from 20 years ago. You
           | can kinda recreate that digitally by only putting a select
           | amount of games on your device at a time and trying to spend
           | more time per game. This particularly comes up when
           | discussing emulation on handhelds.
           | 
           | Bringing the conversation back to music, while I do prefer
           | digital, I've got albums in FLAC on my phone and I re-listen
           | to the same 50 or so albums a lot, only occasionally
           | adding/removing from what's on there.
        
           | specproc wrote:
           | There are two big offers with streaming services: catalogue
           | and curation (playlists, up next).
           | 
           | On curation, taking one's time to do that oneself is arguably
           | superior. You get to know your music better, tailor the
           | collection to your tastes, discovery and growth is active not
           | passive.
           | 
           | If you're really into a band or genre you'll also run into
           | the limits of Spotify's collection. Artists have missing
           | albums, some artists aren't there at all. It's not as bad as
           | film and TV, where six subs are required to cover a broad
           | range of viewing, but that's the enshittification pathway.
           | 
           | Also, real music people hate the mainstream, man.
        
           | oneeyedpigeon wrote:
           | Paying for a permanent subset of music transfers value to
           | that set in a way that subscribing to everything doesn't.
        
       | vitorbaptistaa wrote:
       | I love this! I prefer digital stuff (less things to worry about),
       | but I miss the physicality, especially when friends come over.
       | Books or CDs become a conversation.
       | 
       | If you'd like to do something similar, but don't want to DIY it,
       | check out Yoto Player [1]. This is a small music speaker and they
       | sell a bunch of NFC cards to "play" them. You can also buy blank
       | cards and use their app to add whatever you want to them (music,
       | audiobooks, even audio recordings). It's really well made.
       | 
       | There are a bunch of other companies with similar products. Some
       | use miniatures instead of NFC cards. If you search the web for
       | NFC music player, there are a few FOSS apps on github so you can
       | focus on the hardware part and use their software on a raspberry
       | pi.
       | 
       | This is also great for elders.
       | 
       | P.S.: if you fancy a cool project, I'd _love_ to see someone
       | reverse engineering Yoto so it gets the audio from a local server
       | instead. This way we can use their great hardware, but can use
       | any NFC cards.
       | 
       | [1] https://yotoplay.com/
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | > especially when friends come over. Books or CDs become a
         | conversation.
         | 
         | There's nothing worse than when having people over, and sitting
         | in front of a computer or device isolating from the group. The
         | physical medium of vinyl albums or even CDs allow interaction
         | with everyone instead of someone just clicking on a screen some
         | where. What I read on an album covers might not be the same
         | thing you read and take away from it. It just makes music
         | sharing so much more personal.
        
         | viraptor wrote:
         | Yeah, yoto works really nice for the same purpose. My kid's got
         | lots of custom music on the blanks now. Both soundtracks from
         | movies and custom playlists. I suspect it's going to transform
         | into more of albums in the next years. Whether purchased or
         | DIY, it's also a great solution to giving agency to a 3yo
         | without something like "have an ipad with the whole spotify".
        
           | AliceH0521 wrote:
           | Agree. I have a 2.5yo girl at home, who loves songs at the
           | moment. Before that, I was wondering if there is a way to
           | give her some experience like playing albums, but not just
           | the sound. Now I have found the way. (and we have a 3D
           | printer)
        
         | bobthepanda wrote:
         | CDs are now actually also joining vinyls in being revived for
         | physical merch purposes. They're no longer needed, but if you
         | want them they are available for purchase.
        
           | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
           | They're needed if you want proper digital copies for gapless
           | album playback. You can't trust anybody to get that right.
        
             | jdiff wrote:
             | Apple seems to do that reasonably right in my limited
             | experience.
        
             | selectodude wrote:
             | Apple fixed gapless playback in iTunes like 20 years ago.
        
               | lukan wrote:
               | And I remember winamp could do this way earlier.
        
               | interloxia wrote:
               | Amazon music has gap problems today. In 2025.
        
           | canpan wrote:
           | After years of digital only I started buying CDs and books
           | again. I am much more selective though. Just buy what I will
           | listen to many times or for artist support.
           | 
           | Bought a total of 3 CDs in two years. Movies are more
           | difficult, as I can't stand watching most the second time.
           | Got some Ghibli classics.
        
             | perilunar wrote:
             | CDs are digital.
        
               | lostlogin wrote:
               | But less so than Spotify or Apple Music.
        
           | rhinoceraptor wrote:
           | I love CDs, and unlike records or tapes they have never
           | really gone up in price, even with inflation. A new CD is
           | still about $15.
        
             | lb1lf wrote:
             | This is one of the most absurd facts there is.
             | 
             | Back in the eighties when CDs were introduced, they were
             | NOK 165 a piece for a new release.
             | 
             | Last time I dropped by my friendly neighbourhood dealer (of
             | music, that is), the CD rack said CDs were NOK 189.
             | 
             | 165 1985-kroner equals nigh on 500 2025-kroner.
             | 
             | Incidentally, an LP back then was NOK 89, equivalent to NOK
             | 270 today - whereas an LP today would set me back approx.
             | NOK 399.
             | 
             | Good thing my employer pays me significantly better than my
             | parents did in the eighties. I can still sustain my music
             | habit.
        
           | Contax wrote:
           | Not that it'll happen, or at least I haven't heard of it, but
           | I'd love for MiniDiscs to also make a comeback (not that they
           | ever were that popular), and see new releases in that format.
           | It's my favorite one, a nice blend of CDs and compact
           | cassettes (no worries about scratches thanks to the
           | protective shell, even when you carelessly throw the discs in
           | your pockets).
        
         | majkinetor wrote:
         | There is a technical difference though - yolo keeps the audio
         | on the cards, while this project uses NFC tags to select
         | locally stored audio. To have truly collectable experience,
         | yolo type of thing is the only choice.
        
           | fsargent wrote:
           | Yoto doesn't keep the audio on the cards, all the audio is
           | stored on the cloud and the NFC cards just have a link to the
           | album. The Yoto can't play a card it hasn't already seen
           | before without connecting to the Wi-Fi and downloading it.
        
         | RileyJames wrote:
         | +1 for a yoto.
         | 
         | It also led to my biggest 'Doh' moment with tech.
         | 
         | My sister showed it to me at a holiday house where we had no
         | internet. I thought it was awesome, an offline music/audio
         | player that her daughter could use. She mentioned you could
         | make your own cards. It immediately reminded me of making mix
         | tape cassettes and cds as a child.
         | 
         | I bought one the next week without doing any further research.
         | 
         | When it arrived and asked me to connect it to the wifi I was
         | very confused.
         | 
         | I realised I made a massive assumption that "someone had solved
         | the NFC card memory capacity problem". I'd seen it work without
         | internet and made all these assumptions about how it worked.
         | 
         | Obviously wrong in hindsight.
         | 
         | Still a great piece of kit, but I'd love something that was
         | more akin to a cassette players rec/play/rewind/rec & Physical
         | medium.
         | 
         | But portable cassette recorders still exist...
        
           | jphastings wrote:
           | They're a fantastic piece of kit! They have a Micro SD card
           | internally and download the album/card on first use, then it
           | can be used fully offline any time in the future. It's a
           | great trade off in my mind (though I'll post one level up
           | about how I wish it'd do even better here...)
        
         | jphastings wrote:
         | I pulled apart my Yoto mini! I found an unencrypted ESP32, and
         | managed to pull the firmware off it too.
         | 
         | My reverse engineering skills are limited, so my journey has
         | paused there for now, but I would _love_ to be able to map out
         | all the hardware & write open source firmware for it.
         | 
         | The Yoto set up is very smart (the NFC cards hold a Yoto URL,
         | which responds with a JSON document describing the music &
         | links to MP3s on S3, or m3u files for internet radio).
         | 
         | The only downside is that the Yoto will _only_ follow what I
         | presume are allow-listed URLs, and has SSL certs for those URLs
         | baked in, so if the company ever goes under the devices would
         | lose almost all functionality, without new firmware.
         | 
         | I want to support Yoto as these devices are really great, but
         | I'd also love to be able to drop my own URLs on cards and: -
         | Play tracks from Plex like OP - Trigger lighting/mood changes
         | with HomeAssistant as well as play an album - Play the music on
         | network speakers (eg. Sonos), using the Yoto as the source
         | 
         | If anyone feels like they'd be interested in helping reverse
         | engineer them, do reply!
        
         | cja wrote:
         | You can also add stream URLs to a card. Thus we have a "radio"
         | card which lets my son play radio stations from all over the
         | world.
        
       | sandreas wrote:
       | There are several projects here in germany doing similar things.
       | 
       | There is https://tonies.com, which is cloud based and pretty
       | expensive, but hackable (https://github.com/toniebox-reverse-
       | engineering/teddycloud).
       | 
       | Then there is the RFID Jukebox: https://github.com/MiczFlor/RPi-
       | Jukebox-RFID
       | 
       | And Tonuino: https://github.com/tonuino/TonUINO-TNG
       | 
       | I built ours with the RFID Jukebox and wrote a little tool called
       | labelmaker to print labels for audio books and music:
       | https://pilabor.com/projects/labelmaker/, but in the end it took
       | too much time to print so many labels :-)
        
         | jcul wrote:
         | There's also yoto box, which lets you create "make your own"
         | cards.
        
           | sandreas wrote:
           | Mmh, I know the yoto play (https://eu.yotoplay.com/) but are
           | you referencing to a specific open source project?
        
             | jcul wrote:
             | Yeah that's what I was referring to. In relation to the
             | tonies. It would be a competitor to the tonie box. Both are
             | popular in Ireland.
             | 
             | I did see some stuff about people reverse engineering the
             | tonies back when we first got it, not sure if there's
             | anything similar for yoto.
        
           | IshKebab wrote:
           | We have Yoto for our kids and I was initially skeptical (the
           | cards are quite expensive) but actually it's been amazing.
           | Probably the biggest benefit that we didn't even know is that
           | they have a sort of radio/podcast thing for kids called Yoto
           | Daily that's really well produced and totally free.
        
         | dtkav wrote:
         | I recently bought the toniebox to hack it for my son's 4th
         | birthday. It has become his favorite object.
         | 
         | I considered building sometime custom, but the tonie hardware
         | is cute, portable, and lovable in a way that would be hard to
         | replicate.
         | 
         | It has been really fun for my wife and I to listen to our
         | favorite music in the car, and then when my son says "I like
         | this song" I "burn" him a little disk that evening.
         | 
         | He's turned into a little DJ, and has memorized a handful of
         | his songs (and dances and sings along).
         | 
         | One caveat is that finding compatible NFC tags is a little bit
         | complicated. if you buy from RFIDfriend [0] then they take a
         | couple weeks to arrive from Germany.
         | 
         | Highly recommend!
         | 
         | [0] http://RFIDfriend.com
        
       | doctorhandshake wrote:
       | Nice timing. I'm right in the middle of doing this for music and
       | video media for my kid (using an elaborate concoction of python,
       | nocodb, home assistant, Jellyfin, a NAS, an RPi, and a
       | chromecast) and the thing I had yet to figure out was the
       | physicality of the RFID-sticker-containing cards themselves
        
       | 3abiton wrote:
       | > I used AI to extend the album art to the trading card aspect
       | ratio. Highlighted are the generated parts of the artwork,
       | 
       | This was fun to read, I love all the little details that went
       | into this, you obviously had lots of fun!
        
       | glenngillen wrote:
       | I've been meaning to build a similar thing. I already have all
       | the parts, but I was hoping to find a way to build something that
       | simulated a small record player. Bonus points for a way to have a
       | functioning turntable with the NFC reader + raspi hidden
       | underneath it. If anyone has ideas or has seen a way to make that
       | work please share some links!
        
       | housebear wrote:
       | Love this. What are you tapping the cards _onto_? What is reading
       | that info and then pulling the music? (I 'm not super savvy and
       | can't figure it out from the writeup).
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | that's the right question! i'm surprised no one has asked it
         | yet. part 2 will be all about setting up the raspberry pi with
         | an nfc hat and a 'read-only' display as the tap target.
        
         | Rhinobird wrote:
         | I just assumed they were tapping them on their phone and had
         | some kind of app, or website something
        
           | jordanf wrote:
           | no middleware/app needed. PlexAmp can deep-link to an album
           | with an autoplay parameter, as long as the device with the
           | NFC reader can access it.
        
         | iafan wrote:
         | On iPhone, tapping an NFC tag with a URL opens a popup that
         | allows you to navigate to that URL with a single click. If this
         | URL is supported by an installed app, this app will handle
         | this. For example, if you write a URL of a Spotify playlist
         | onto your NFC tag/sticker (which you can also do from the phone
         | via an app like NFC Tools), then bring that sticker to iPhone,
         | it will show this as a Spotify URL, and you can tap on this
         | notification and go to that Spotify playlist. So all you need
         | to experiment with is a writable NFC tag and your phone, no
         | other hardware required. I bet Android phones offer a similar
         | experience.
        
       | pluto_modadic wrote:
       | I think this skips over /how to do it/.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | ?
        
         | judge2020 wrote:
         | Writable NFC cards are pretty cheap on Aliexpress and Amazon,
         | they're writable with most any NFC enabled phone and apps like
         | "NFC Tools" that let you input a uri.
         | 
         | If you don't have a Plex server like the OP, you could use a
         | link to the streaming service you use.
        
       | xandrius wrote:
       | Lovely idea but basically we got a tutorial on how to put a
       | square onto a rectangle, print it and cut it somewhat wobbly,
       | then profit?
       | 
       | More interested in the NFC side, how to flash these, how to read
       | them, challenges, final costs, etc.
       | 
       | Changing the aspect ratio to fit a card is fine too, I guess?
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | Also, there are corner-cutters you can get from a hobby store
         | that will make a nice, clean, consistent radius on those cards.
         | 
         | I have this one, for example (three radii!):
         | https://www.amazon.com/Sunstar-Kadomaru-Corner-Cutter-S47650...
        
           | jordanf wrote:
           | sweet! thank you
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | alright fair feedback.
        
       | ks2048 wrote:
       | Nice job!
       | 
       | I wonder what hardware is available today to actually store the
       | music in the card? i.e. how slim and cheap can you store an album
       | of mp3?
        
         | al_borland wrote:
         | Without getting too fancy with the tech, I found a 10 pack of
         | 128MB micro SD cards on Amazon for $15. Those seem like they'd
         | be slim enough for an off-the-shelf option to hack something
         | together for $1.50 per album, if you're not worried about
         | having audiophile quality.
        
       | yegle wrote:
       | Hmm w/o using Plex, I think the same can be done using a RasPi w/
       | an NFC reader to send a command to a remote MPD server to start
       | casting to my Google Home devices. The NFC tag to album mapping
       | can be managed using a plaintext file.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | cool bro
        
         | Atlas667 wrote:
         | This is the next feature i want to implement in my own nfc
         | player, which is essentially the same idea as OPs but only
         | through vlc for now.
         | 
         | I run it on a raspi and uses nfcpy and python-vlc.
         | 
         | Its on github under nfc_player.
        
       | wkjagt wrote:
       | Very cool!
       | 
       | Reminds me of a very similar project I did for my (almost) blind
       | grandfather. I used NFC cards too, but to play audiobooks.
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8177117
        
       | cpcampbell wrote:
       | Very nice! I built a similar system with my young kids a few
       | years ago called Qrocodile [1], which used a RPi (inside a custom
       | Lego model) to control our Sonos system by reading QR codes
       | printed on small cards. QR worked well because they're cheap to
       | print. We printed a couple hundred album/song cards (each with
       | album art) and a number of control cards. Fun project. Source
       | code and all the instructions (for server, client, and card
       | generator) are in the GitHub project [2].
       | 
       | [1] https://labonnesoupe.org/2018/02/14/introducing-qrocodile/
       | [2] https://github.com/chrispcampbell/qrocodile
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | cool!
        
       | doug_durham wrote:
       | Seems like an excuse to play with NFC tags. These types of
       | articles come off as sanctimonious. There is nothing superior
       | about the cards. On a phone or computer you can get complete
       | liner notes for any song. All of that is missing from this
       | system. You don't need to justify working on a pet project. Just
       | do it. It doesn't have to be "superior". It's ok if it's dumb.
        
         | anigbrowl wrote:
         | It is a bit of a humblebrag, like many parenting articles, but
         | it's nice that he made something for his kid even if it
         | basically an effort to pass on his own musical taste rather
         | than investigate what cool new things are happening below the
         | marketing radar of today's industry. I do wonder if it might
         | not have been more involving to just get hold of an old
         | record/cassette player and take the kid to the nearest used
         | music store, but hey.
        
         | oneeyedpigeon wrote:
         | I was surprised to see nothing about liner notes, lyrics, or
         | other info that could have been added to these cards.
         | Especially with the aspect ratio issue! Seems like almost
         | anything would be a better use of that valuable space than AI
         | hallucinations.
        
           | jordanf wrote:
           | I want to make the cards richer in phase 2 (track listings on
           | the back, at least).
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | Thanks for your vapid and misguided feedback, Doug Durham. I
         | hope you find joy somewhere.
        
           | derwiki wrote:
           | Clearly tons of people like this project. You don't have to
           | respond to the naysayers.
        
             | jordanf wrote:
             | thank you
        
       | neumann wrote:
       | I think mentioned elsewhere here,
       | https://github.com/MiczFlor/RPi-Jukebox-RFID is great for this. I
       | did something similar with an opp shop Fisher Price[0] record
       | player, with the RFID reader under the turntable and each 'card'
       | is a laminated record cover with the rfid stuck on it. Lots of
       | good photos of different implementations in their issue threads.
       | 
       | We also use it for kids podcasts (autodownloads them weekly). I
       | added a TTS script that generates a friendly audio message from a
       | text file that can be triggered to play from an alarm or for a
       | specific record. This announces the weather with a Dad joke at
       | the end. I tried to automate the last one with various sources
       | (db, LLM, etc - but felt too cold, so I just dictate it to the
       | server from the phone) and usually add a customised message about
       | our family calendar (wear a jacket for rain. cousins are coming
       | today).
       | 
       | [0] https://www.amazon.com.au/Fisher-Price-Classics-Record-
       | Playe...
        
         | squigz wrote:
         | Haha, using that Fisher Price toy for this is super cute.
        
         | nedt wrote:
         | Yeah I've also build a Phoniebox a couple of years ago for my
         | kid. It has physical buttons, RFID cards or chips (some hidden
         | in plush toys) and works very much like tonies, but with much
         | easier access to anything you want to put on it. It's all in a
         | wooden box including speakers. I've later extended it with a
         | powerbank.
        
       | ge96 wrote:
       | Tangent, I miss the carelessness of being young I just feel jaded
       | as a grown up ha, referring to the video of her smiling with the
       | card
       | 
       | In my case I think externally all the time like how people
       | perceive me/I'm being judged
        
       | conductr wrote:
       | When similar topics come up I like to add this tidbit, also
       | encourage them to listen to full albums. In order, no shuffle or
       | playlist, just dedicating an ~hour to sit and listen to an album.
       | 
       | When any Dookie song ends I still automatically start singing or
       | air strumming the next track on the album.
        
       | polynomial wrote:
       | NFC inlays are paper thin (~0.06mm) and cards are typically 0.2mm
       | (Bicyle) to 0.30mm (M:TG).
       | 
       | We can use NFC tools to write an URI pointing at an audio file
       | link using NDEF.
       | 
       | I believe Android will play the audio file when you _tap_ the
       | card on the your phone. (Apple will need you to confirm in a
       | popup.)
        
       | spunker540 wrote:
       | I like this idea. While it's great to have all the music at my
       | fingertips via Alexa + Apple Music (or Spotify etc), it's
       | actually not very conducive to browsing or recalling all the
       | music and albums I like.
       | 
       | Something physical to browse like this is a pretty fun way to
       | marry the physical world with digital music catalogs.
        
         | baliex wrote:
         | I built https://dailyalbum.art/ to solve a part of the browsing
         | problem you're talking about. Nothing physical I'm afraid, but
         | I do really love this RFID tap to play idea!
         | 
         | I've curated a list of 500+ critically acclaimed albums, which
         | I continue to add to as the Mercury Prize nominees are
         | announced each year, Rough Trade releases its albums of the
         | year, etc.
         | 
         | It picks 12 a day and that's that; it's the same 12 for
         | everyone. If you see something familiar, you might want to go
         | for that. Or if you're in the mood for something new &
         | different, you can give something unknown a try.
        
       | lawgimenez wrote:
       | Back in the day me and my friends would also trade cassettes and
       | CDs for a week because buying one costs a lot of money for broke
       | teenagers like us.
       | 
       | Hey I just bought this new Dead Kennedys tape I would love to
       | trade for your NOFX CD!
       | 
       | Kids nowadays just take for granted music and it makes me kinda
       | sad.
        
         | squigz wrote:
         | > Kids nowadays just take for granted music and it makes me
         | kinda sad.
         | 
         | Maybe it's better to say they take their easy access to music
         | for granted, which I think is okay. Isn't it better than not
         | having access - or having very very limited access - because
         | they're also broke teenagers?
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | I added a DK easter egg for you
        
       | karlgrz wrote:
       | This is incredibly cool, thanks for sharing! As an album lover
       | through and through, I am with you.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | thank you
        
       | bariumbitmap wrote:
       | Related: "How I Built an NFC Movie Library for my Kids"
       | 
       | https://simplyexplained.com/blog/how-i-built-an-nfc-movie-li...
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41479141
        
       | jopsen wrote:
       | The more old school alternative is to just buy old CDs and a CD
       | player.
       | 
       | Used, you can find this stuff pretty cheap. Abd it's still more
       | physical than NFC cards.
        
         | FelipeCortez wrote:
         | and you get booklets!
        
         | aidenn0 wrote:
         | CDs have gotten a _lot_ more expensive recently where I live. I
         | used to be able to find used albums for under $5, but that is
         | rare now.
        
       | lexx wrote:
       | You are in my mind and in my heart. This is a constant thought
       | that I have. I grew up in a house where books, vinyls, cds,
       | slides, tapes and other media were everywhere. Some on display,
       | others archived in boxes. Large part of my childhood was spent
       | with me exploring through that stuff and creating custom mixtapes
       | with songs that I really liked. I still have a lot of them.
       | 
       | I also remember my 10 yo self, designing in Corel draw my own
       | labels and printing them to fit the tape case.
       | 
       | I always ask my self "what is my kid going to explore? My Spotify
       | account?" It's one of the reasons I still collect vinyls and
       | books. Even if I don't really listen or read them from the
       | physical format.
        
         | testdelacc1 wrote:
         | I'd like to think someone in future would read my kindle books
         | and see the notes I've made on certain paragraphs.
        
           | Pfhortune wrote:
           | That would be possible in a sane world, but in this world, we
           | have DRM
        
         | leptons wrote:
         | If you had a record player, your kid could explore all the
         | vinyl you claim to have (but never play?). I think that
         | experience would be a lot more valuable for a kid than some
         | "NFC cards".
        
       | rhinoceraptor wrote:
       | If your inkjet printer has the right tray, you can buy printable
       | CD-Rs for about 25 cents a piece in bulk. And somewhat unrelated,
       | I've also been printing out a lot more of the photos I take.
       | 
       | I got a Canon PRO-100 printer for $25 off of Facebook
       | marketplace, they practically gave them away with higher end
       | DSLRs so they're easy to get second hand, and a set of generic
       | ink cartridges is about $15. With generic ink and generic photo
       | paper, you can do a 13x19 prints for about 50 cents each. It's
       | not archival grade printing, but it's pretty good and affordable.
        
       | geluso wrote:
       | Awesome album picks. Odelay looks especially great on your card.
       | 
       | I made something like this for TV shows and movies using floppy
       | disks. Each floppy has a text file with filepaths of videos on a
       | hard drive. When the floppy is inserted a bash script detects it
       | and plays a random video from the text file on the floppy.
       | 
       | I like the physicality of systems like this. It is much more
       | satisfying to to flick through physical items than to scroll
       | through a digital list of things.
       | 
       | You've got great artwork. I need to up the artwork on my floppys!
       | 
       | There's a demo video in my repo:
       | https://github.com/geluso/floppy-vision
        
       | Nursie wrote:
       | It's an interesting toy, but I wonder if this isn't someone
       | trying to hold back the tides of modernity by making their kids
       | appreciate music the way they did.
       | 
       | AFAICT most of the old musical tribes we used to arrange
       | ourselves into are a bit of a thing of the past
       | (punks/goths/greebos/grunge/indie kids/ravers/etc), and kids
       | don't build their identities around music taste any more, because
       | music is no longer so much of a scarce commodity.
       | 
       | Sometimes things just change...
       | 
       | That said, as a fun tech project, definitely cool.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | Hi, I'm the "someone". It's me trying to have fun and do
         | something special for my kids, hoping to find more shared
         | connection with them.
        
       | Fuzzwah wrote:
       | I did a similar project... <checks date of yt video... oh my I'm
       | old> 13 years ago. I haven't used it in some time, but I really
       | do miss the visual aspect of selecting what to listen to...
       | you've inspired me to get it rigged up again. Thanks.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyq2xqjHW0
       | 
       | My hacky solution, which is obviously way out of date and a bit
       | specialised to my situation (in that I use kodi to play my music)
       | is over here: https://github.com/Fuzzwah/xbmc-rfid-music
        
       | Vaslo wrote:
       | I had a huge music collection of everything from thrash and death
       | metal to new age and 80s. I don't miss those days at all. I can't
       | tell you how many times I bought cds for one song and the rest of
       | thing was garbage. When you're a teen without a job or working to
       | pay things like car insurance, gas etc, that 17 bucks was
       | precious. No record store would let you return shit albums where
       | I live.
       | 
       | Now I have all the music I'll ever want for a low monthly fee,
       | and I've discovered genres I would have never splurged for
       | because of the limited resources I had at the time. My son does
       | tons of music discovery through Spotify that I could have never
       | done and doesn't have to plop down 17 bucks for only 12-13 songs,
       | 11-12 of which might be utter garbage.
        
       | specproc wrote:
       | This reminds me of the present I came up with for a mate's 40th.
       | 
       | I ran up a bunch of playlists on Spotify, pulled them down with
       | spotdl, burned them to CDs, ran up some album art, and slapped QR
       | codes linking to the playlists on the back. Was super fun.
        
       | larusso wrote:
       | I really like the idea. I also grew up in a household with tons
       | of physical media to explore. I still have my blue ray collection
       | but it's mainly sitting in the shelf because I honestly don't
       | know what else to put there.
       | 
       | But I'm wondering reading all the comments from people doing
       | something similar with alternative products etc how they do this
       | legally? I mean I can't just download stuff from Apple Music and
       | play it offline on some random player. Same with most other
       | streaming providers. Or are you accepting the greyzone here by
       | saying you pay for the service so it doesn't matter? Or are you
       | happily buying all the content on some other medium / drm free
       | stores to put them on these alternatives players? I specifically
       | mean solutions where one needs some form of copy of the files.
        
         | ozim wrote:
         | There are still legitimate options to buy media and download
         | mp3.
        
           | larusso wrote:
           | Yes I know. But audiobooks bought are way more expensive than
           | getting them from audible with the credit system over the
           | course of one year for instance. I used to buy my albums
           | rather than having a streaming service subscription. But I
           | sadly caved in. I just wonder if all who report they do this
           | for they kids etc really go out and buy all these great
           | records and audiobooks etc. because for me there is a reason
           | to have a subscription. An album on iTunes costs roughly
           | 10EUR. For that I can listen a whole month to whatever album.
           | Sure the album is somewhat mine when I purchase it
           | (definitely when bought on a physical medium). At the moment
           | I purchase my favorite movies digital even though I could
           | watch them on Netflix and co.
        
             | oneeyedpigeon wrote:
             | It seems to me like this is more about nostalgia than
             | current music. I'm considering doing something similar with
             | my cd collection which is original from the 90s/00s with
             | some back catalogue 60s-90s stuff thrown in. I listen to
             | most modern music via streaming, but still buy the odd new
             | release album that really matters to me (literally one or
             | two a year).
        
         | IanCal wrote:
         | I've ripped a bunch of cds which I think is not technically
         | legal here but I have no moral issue, an we'd bought some.
         | 
         | Other than that with setups like music assistant you can stream
         | from these services, it's just a different trigger. I know
         | that's not quite what you asked but it's a clean solution to
         | play on the speakers you'd already stream on.
        
         | squigz wrote:
         | Why get hung up on the legality of something like this,
         | assuming you're just going to use it for personal use in your
         | home?
         | 
         | It's not morally wrong to take music you pay for and use it in
         | a perfectly reasonable - and fun - way.
        
           | larusso wrote:
           | Well because at least from a German perspective one can get
           | in lots of troubles when going the non legal way. Of course
           | the question is how you do it etc etc. my question was if in
           | fact people go the greyzone or start to purchase from
           | alternative sources instead of using streaming services.
        
         | fireinsnow wrote:
         | I use Apple Music and have made a very similar setup to the
         | article. Instead of the NFC pointing to a Plex URL, I have it
         | trigger an Automation to play the relevant album on Apple
         | Music. Works well, plays instantly, feels magical, and most of
         | all it's got rid of the 'what should I listen to' friction so I
         | now find my home is filled with music way more often. Downside
         | of this approach is it only works on my own phone.
         | 
         | This article (not mine) explains the Apple Music/Automation
         | approach - https://hicks.design/journal/moo-card-player
        
       | trn217 wrote:
       | Very cool! (I would suggest not showing your kids face on the web
       | though)
        
       | torvald wrote:
       | I've been thinking about the same, but use old cassette tapess
       | and just print a small QR code on the back, then rip out the
       | intestines on an old cassette player and put in a raspi and
       | camera to read the QR and play the equivalent song/album.
        
       | AlecSchueler wrote:
       | I feel something the same but actually feel the CD and records
       | generations missed out on a lot as well, not that music was a
       | formless thing but that it was disembodied, appearing from
       | plastic discs and dumb speakers.
       | 
       | With my daughter I'm trying to just have much more music in the
       | house, instruments laying around, singing and teaching her
       | traditional songs and making them up together. I don't really
       | worry about her not sitting around choosing between the Stones or
       | the Beatles, as long as she's developing her own relationship
       | with music.
        
         | Gud wrote:
         | Very good point!
        
         | andai wrote:
         | The next phase of this process is that generations which will
         | experience music telepathically will be extremely nostalgic for
         | music perceived by means of vibrating the air in the living
         | room.
        
           | jordanf wrote:
           | i love this take
        
           | sdenton4 wrote:
           | Already there's a transition from bass (which you can feel in
           | your body) to hearing music through tiny earbuds...
        
       | roomey wrote:
       | You can also buy a cheap cd player and some CDs from a second
       | hand store
        
       | Atlas667 wrote:
       | Nice! I did this as well, but with python. Wanted to detach a bit
       | more from the machine.
       | 
       | Made a python script that uses nfcpy to connect to an nfc reader
       | and triggers vlc player through python-vlc. I think its
       | nfc_player on github.
        
       | royletron wrote:
       | Meh I feel like this sort of misses the point. It's very cool
       | technically but if the aim is to bring back a sense of connection
       | to music then I'd say the execution is way off.
       | 
       | Music stores are struggling, if they go all that'll be left is
       | Amazon and Spotify...
       | 
       | Here's my tip. Buy your kid a CD walkman, go to a music store
       | once a month and give them a budget. If they're lost help them
       | get started. If they make a choice they don't like then most
       | stores will offer trade in. Eventually they'll even form a
       | relationship with the store workers (shout at to Mark in Truck)
       | who will give more recommendations. My son's even started
       | listening to radio to get more inspiration and we pumped all of
       | our money into the local economy...
        
       | ZeroGravitas wrote:
       | My friend's slightly less geeky approach was just to rebuy a lot
       | of his classic albums on CD that he'd previously sold, which his
       | daughters seem to enjoy at about half the age of the one in the
       | story.
       | 
       | Possibly bossing their dad around to do the actual disc insertion
       | is part of the fun at that age.
       | 
       | As someone who borrows books from the library rather than buys
       | them (partly as an added motivation to actually read them within
       | a set timeframe) I have similar thoughts about my bookshelves
       | that mostly contain gifted books.
        
       | pachico wrote:
       | This is so great!
       | 
       | On one hand, I love the possibility of having millions of albums
       | at your disposal via streaming services. On the other hand, I
       | hate having to type or click to select them (voice recognition
       | just doesn't work).
       | 
       | Yours seems to be the best combination.
       | 
       | Congratulations!!!
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | thank you for the comment
        
       | mieses wrote:
       | Poor kids forced to listen to the pop music of their dad's youth
        
         | derwiki wrote:
         | That's how I was raised. The Lion Sleeps Tonight, Summer in The
         | City, Mr Bass Man.. good music is good music, no matter the
         | genre or time period.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | haha. no one is forcing my kids to listen to my music. also,
         | you think YHF is pop music...?
        
       | oytis wrote:
       | In Berlin someone made it a real product. Not sure whether there
       | was any commercial success.
       | 
       | https://www.red-dot.org/project/moodplay-64498
        
       | MedAzizBenSalem wrote:
       | It's this gorgeous mixing of innovation and nostalgia. I love how
       | you tied the haptic joy of finding music with modern tech the NFC
       | + PlexAmp partnership. It's amazing how streaming gave music to
       | everyone's fingertips but reduced it to something less personal,
       | and your solution restores that sense of ownership and ritual.
       | I'd love to see this be a bit of an open source kit or community
       | project I suspect lots of parents and music nerds would leap at
       | it.
        
       | IanCal wrote:
       | I built a scanner with a nfc reader and esphome, and I made some
       | 3d printed things to stick the tags on - the kids love them. I
       | originally partly did this as not all songs play well when asked
       | for on a smart speaker. I know all these are safe and I can put
       | playlists on them too.
        
       | reboot81 wrote:
       | Was thinking of a way to recreate MTV for my daugther, for the
       | same reason - to explore and discover outside the algo bubble on
       | social media.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | recreating MTV or a mid-90s alt-rock radio station for our kids
         | would be a really fun little project.
        
         | kilroy123 wrote:
         | I did this by pulling down lots of videos from YouTube. Then,
         | using this app https://www.quasitv.app to make an "MTV"
         | channel.
         | 
         | It's pretty cool to have an all-day station on.
        
       | emsign wrote:
       | I remember going to the flea market with my dad discovering new
       | music by buying old vinyl records just by liking the cover art or
       | because I've vaguely heard about the band. How times have changed
       | even though t=ose flea markets with records still exist today.
        
       | paffdragon wrote:
       | I love this, and so many good projects mentioned in the comments
       | too. My son just turned three and we still have a real CD player
       | that we use, sometimes, but now often it's streaming from Spotify
       | or NAS. I was just thinking about how to do something similar,
       | thanks for the inspiration
        
       | crazygringo wrote:
       | First of all, this is super super cool. I love these cards, and
       | how he's doing this for his son.
       | 
       | But it also makes me sad when people write things like:
       | 
       | > _My 10-year-old doesn 't have that. Music just sort of...
       | happens. It's like it's infinite and invisible at the same time,
       | playing from smart speakers, car stereos, my phone. Endless
       | perfectly curated playlists, designed to fade into the
       | background. The default listening experience has become both
       | literally and figuratively formless._
       | 
       | That doesn't match my experience with Spotify, for example. By
       | using things like related artists and radio stations based on an
       | obscure track I've discovered, I've been able to become far more
       | intentional about my listening and discover _far_ more music than
       | I ever could when I was younger.
       | 
       | And music that "happens" and "fades into the background" isn't
       | anything new. That's what analog radio has been for as long as
       | most of us have been alive. Only with far, far, far less choice.
       | 
       | So I love this project -- aesthetically it's super cool and it
       | demonstrates a lot of love. I just wish the author wasn't trying
       | to paint this narrative that the "default listening experience"
       | is somehow getting worse. It's not. It's better than it's ever
       | been.
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | do you have children? :)
        
         | adamors wrote:
         | I don't agree, endless music from faceless artists have made
         | everything weightless and interchangeable, the never ending
         | stream of recommended artists means that clicking next is more
         | exciting than actually listening to something.
         | 
         | I remember 15-20 years ago, every album (even digital album)
         | meant something, I remember trading CDs and MP3s with friends
         | and listening to an album (or even a song) over and over again.
         | Now we're spoiled for choice and very, very few artists produce
         | something that will be remembered in 10 years, let alone 5.
        
           | lxgr wrote:
           | The other thing that has happened over the past 15-20 years
           | is that you've aged as much, though.
           | 
           | I remember being very excited about my favorite band
           | releasing a new record when I was a teenager. Not that I
           | don't enjoy that today at all, but I feel like the difference
           | can be explained by my having heard dozens of more great
           | albums since then much better than by the shift from physical
           | to virtual media.
           | 
           | Looking at today's teenagers, I am not concerned about them
           | not appreciating individual songs and artists enough. (If
           | anything, I'd argue the opposite!)
        
           | crazygringo wrote:
           | I feel like you're describing some strange alternate
           | universe. I genuinely don't understand what you're talking
           | about.
           | 
           | Faceless artists? Artists have dedicated followings with
           | fanbases where they interact more than ever before.
           | Weightless and interchangeable? Artist's personalities are
           | more distinct and individual than ever.
           | 
           | You think people don't listen to albums anymore? That they're
           | "clicking next" rather than listening? Do you actually _know_
           | anybody who likes music? I think you might not actually be in
           | touch with today 's music scene.
        
             | autoexec wrote:
             | > Faceless artists? Artists have dedicated followings with
             | fanbases where they interact more than ever before.
             | 
             | Not so much these days. Especially on streaming platforms
             | where countless tracks that get pushed on listeners are
             | recorded by anonymous session musicians whose works are
             | sometimes put out under an assigned name for that singe
             | track, then they get assigned a new name for the next track
             | they put out. Even worse, a lot of music on Spotify and
             | Apple Music are 100% AI generated tracks. Literally
             | faceless.
             | 
             | > You think people don't listen to albums anymore? That
             | they're "clicking next" rather than listening?
             | 
             | Many aren't even "clicking next". They're just taking
             | whatever comes next over their speakers and letting their
             | streaming platform decide for them what they're hearing.
        
               | crazygringo wrote:
               | Of course faceless artists _exist_ if that 's what you're
               | actively seeking. And sure some people are putting on AI-
               | generated tracks in the background while they study or
               | whatever.
               | 
               | But that's not representative. Regular people who like
               | regular real-life artists continue to listen to them, the
               | same as they always have.
               | 
               | And I don't know anybody who outsources their music
               | tastes entirely to e.g. Spotify. Like, you have to
               | actually pick a playlist or something. You have to make
               | _some_ choice. And like I said, people have been  "just
               | taking whatever comes next over their speakers" by
               | _listening to the radio_ for many, many decades.
               | 
               | You're commenting as if something has changed for the
               | worse in the past 15-20 years. It hasn't. It's only
               | gotten better in terms of real music. And if you don't
               | like the AI slop, _don 't listen to it_.
        
           | squigz wrote:
           | > very, very few artists produce something that will be
           | remembered in 10 years, let alone 5.
           | 
           | So... like most artists of any type since forever?
        
         | mihaaly wrote:
         | You are right.
         | 
         | Children today can be as conscious music listeners as we, who
         | collected and sought out music of our own in our youth in the
         | 80' and 90'. Or as unfastidious as those listening to top chart
         | hits exclusively (including both Mike Oldfield and Milli
         | Vanilli, whichever is in the top) in our childhood.
         | 
         | Two, possibly related anocdote.
         | 
         | My goddaughter is 12. She is in a revolting phase where
         | difficult to find way to her heart. But we are on the same
         | wavelength and can engage in hours and hours of excited
         | conversation (we are 40 years apart btw.) about music beacuse
         | she listens to those I listened when I was in her age or more.
         | "Today's music sucks", she argues, and we share playlists.
         | Actually I am able to show her those do not suck today but
         | rarely found because you have to broese similar atrists of a
         | similar artist from somthing you found by accident as a
         | background music of a movie. These kind of discovery through
         | huge music databases is great! About the same good as being
         | lost in a huge vinyl/cd shop. You cannot touch, but you can
         | listen!
         | 
         | Another is just interesting, and a reflection to the "todays
         | music suck" kind of oversimplification. But also to how young
         | people can discover their own music. Once in Germany waiting
         | for a tram a loud group of graduating high school student like
         | figures came by shouting the refrain of '99 Luftbalons' while
         | it was playing from an uncomfortably loud boombox. I could not
         | stop smiling thinking of them. : )
        
       | MarkBagh wrote:
       | What's your approach to expanding his collection - do you add
       | cards based on what he gravitates toward, or do you intentionally
       | introduce "bridge" artists to expand his palette?
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | we'll see! probably both. for example, he likes Weezer's Blue
         | Album, so I'll introduce him to Wowee Zowee next. I just want
         | him to stay engaged.
        
         | pedrogpimenta wrote:
         | Im not OP but i have a player for my kids which is basically
         | the same. I do both. Sometimes I introduce songs and we talk
         | about it, other times they hear something somewhere and ask me
         | for it.
        
       | Western0 wrote:
       | I don't understand this concept. Can you show me how it works?
       | Does it work on a stereo tower or only on a desktop PC with
       | Linux?
        
       | throwpoaster wrote:
       | See Yoto for the non-DIY product version.
        
       | NoraCodes wrote:
       | I've done something similar, for myself. I have a Tangara [1],
       | which despite being quirky and expensive, I really love. It has
       | an SD card slot, and while SD cards aren't as cheap as NFC tags,
       | you can get hundreds from AliExpress for $1 each. I put one or
       | two albums or a short mixtape on each one, and make a label for
       | it myself. I don't use streaming services anyway, but now,
       | instead of having music on my phone, I have a big box of SD cards
       | I can physically arrange, choose from, and take with me. It also
       | means that notification sounds never intrude on my listening
       | experience.
       | 
       | 1: https://cooltech.zone/tangara/
        
       | browningstreet wrote:
       | This reminds me of how frustrated I am that none of the music
       | streaming services allow playlists of albums.
        
       | liendolucas wrote:
       | This has to be one of the coolest, near zero cost projects I've
       | seen in a while. KUDOS to the author for the simplicity and
       | creativity found on those cards!
        
         | jordanf wrote:
         | thank you!
        
       | sigmonsays wrote:
       | I started thinking about how to build this at one point but never
       | got around to it. i've thought about doing this with QR code
       | stickers, but the NFC approach might be nicer.
        
       | zacharycohn wrote:
       | I built a similar project! https://github.com/zacharycohn/jukebox
       | 
       | My jewel cases have not survived contact with my 2 year old, and
       | I've been idly thinking about more robust solutions.
        
       | variegated_mons wrote:
       | I love this. I have had a similar project on my todo list for
       | about a decade. My intent was to just use album art image
       | recognition though. That way you could queue up streaming service
       | music using actual physical media or using printed card
       | facsimiles which would be even more accessible without the need
       | to include NFC.
        
       | mft_ wrote:
       | Nice project, but It's interesting how differently one's
       | formative experiences makes this subject seem.
       | 
       | As someone who grew up in a household in a small village, brought
       | up by parents whose music collection was 99% classical music and
       | who actively fought the influence of modern/US-centric culture,
       | and with limited personal money (a typical album would have been
       | ~1.5 month's pocket money) the current world of Youtube, Spotify,
       | et al is a utopia.
       | 
       | I wish I'd had the problem of infinitely available music. :)
        
       | ct0 wrote:
       | There is a similar children's toy called Yoto that uses cards to
       | load stories and songs on a player. I love the idea of hacking
       | something together, this is really cool !
        
       | fladd wrote:
       | This is really nice! I also feel that the same way about how
       | music, and especially the concept of an album, has lost its value
       | in times of streaming due to giving up ownership, having access
       | to everything, over-using playlists, and the absence of the
       | visual art (i.e. packaging/booklet/liner notes) that used to
       | accompany albums (and also compilations/EPs/single releases) when
       | they were still physical entities.
       | 
       | A few years ago I made Zipped Album [1] as an attempt to solve
       | this purely in the software domain by slightly changing the way
       | we store and consume digitally owned (i.e. bought and downloaded
       | vs. streamed) music. It contains a proposal for a simple single-
       | file music album format that incorporates visual art [2], and an
       | example cross-platform player for it that (hopefully)
       | demonstrates how this can promote a more (inter)active/conscious
       | listening experience [3].
       | 
       | [1] https://zipped-album.github.io/ [2]
       | https://github.com/zipped-album/zlbm [3]
       | https://github.com/zipped-album/zap
        
       | gambiting wrote:
       | I mean that's super cool, but faced with the same problem I just
       | bought a second hand Sony CD player off ebay and lots of discs,
       | people sell them for nothing because no one wants a collection of
       | CDs anymore.
        
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