[HN Gopher] All-New Next Gen of UniFi Storage
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All-New Next Gen of UniFi Storage
Author : ycombinete
Score : 34 points
Date : 2025-10-08 10:05 UTC (3 days ago)
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| system2 wrote:
| I'm surprised they don't have their own Synology C2-type backup
| service. Instead, they list AWS S3, Backblaze B2, and Wasabi as
| back-end integrations.
|
| We use Synology with VMware ESXi backups, and it's a lifesaver.
| Unless they add VM support, I wouldn't consider UI. I also wonder
| what their backup-restore timeline/search looks like.
|
| EDIT: You know what grinds my gears on HN? Getting downvoted for
| a basic observation and never knowing what I said that sounded
| wrong to others.
| crmd wrote:
| It could be because storage data plane development is a complex
| and niche software engineering domain, and cloud storage itself
| is not a high margin business.
| amluto wrote:
| I know nothing about this particular product, but I would not buy
| anything from UniFi where you will be sad if it becomes
| essentially useless for any remotely nontrivial use case.
|
| In recent days, I've encountered at least the following issues:
|
| - Removing a fixed DHCP address from a device that is no present
| requires switching to the old UI.
|
| - Gateway network traffic by client is flat-out broken.
|
| - My particular combination of hardware does not support UniFi's
| speedtest. Dunno why. They don't care.
|
| - Doing almost anything temporarily disruptive to the network
| resuts in long-lasting disruption as the controller re-adopts
| everything.
|
| - Per-port switch settings are janky. They often result in the
| settings page and the actual applied settings not being in sync.
| And sometimes the port I want to configure is missing.
| (Seriously, the ports will be in numeric order except one is
| skipped. So maybe I have port 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, and 8. Traffic is
| passing on port 4 just fine, but there is no port 4 as far as the
| UI is concerned.
|
| - Network ACLs are a serious mess and often simply don't work,
| although I admit it's been a little while since I've re-tested
| this issue. (The ones above are all things I've encountered very
| recently.)
|
| I'm sure I'm forgetting something. UniFi is... sort of featureful
| but not actually impressive.
| pharos92 wrote:
| 90% of the product effort goes into out-appleing apple on their
| website
| Andrex wrote:
| If that's the goal I think they succeeded, I could barely
| browse it on my old laptop.
| q3k wrote:
| Also add to this that they tend to randomly (soft-)EOL
| products. I've already been bitten by this twice (first by
| their early CCTV systems, then by their EdgeRouter series of
| devices).
|
| Don't buy Ubnt unless you're ready to replace it by something
| else when things go wrong.
| InTheArena wrote:
| The Edge Router line has been what, 5 years old since any
| major update? But these are still being supported. The CCTV
| stuff was replaced, again 5+ years ago, but I have been using
| Unifi switches, and Unifi protect for ~10 years now, and have
| not had a problem. Unifi Protect also supports ONVF now,
| which means it supports third party cameras, which was part
| of the reason people didn't like protect originally.
| kuschku wrote:
| > The Edge Router line has been what, 5 years old since any
| major update?
|
| Where's the replacement for those anyway? From what I can
| tell, the new unifi routers don't even officially support
| SSH or Serial login, nor do they support the typical
| configure/commit/abort procedure, nor do they officially
| support loading/backup up config files, nor running custom
| cronjobs (which I need as German ISPs require even on FTTH
| a 24h reconnect, and if you don't schedule one, they'll
| schedule one for you)
| tills13 wrote:
| I mean it's a case of use the right tool for the job.
|
| For consumer, it's overkill. For pro-sumer, it's perfect, imo.
| You can start pushing the boundaries, here, but most will not
| for residential. If you are pushing the boundaries, you are
| probably savvy enough to roll your own solution or get into the
| actual, hard-core enterprise stuff. For small businesses, it's
| similar to pro-sumer. For enterprise, use something else. But
| honestly, you could make it work for any of these, 99% of the
| time.
|
| I fall squarely into pro-sumer and my setup has been flawless
| for me. It's got all the bells and whistles I could ever need
| while not being too overkill nor really that expensive in the
| grand scheme of things. I am planning on switching over from
| Synology to a UNAS for the integration with Identity.
|
| It sounds like you are the exception for pro-sumer.
| iosjunkie wrote:
| Agreed 100%. Perfect prosumer / small business setup.
| phil21 wrote:
| Unifi is what you swap over to once your time becomes more
| scarce and money more plentiful. At least in all the cases of
| my peer group.
|
| It's far less customizable, and can be maddening sometimes if
| it doesn't Just Work(tm) - debugging it can be a giant pain.
| You will also be paying the Ubiquiti tax.
|
| I simply redesigned my overly complex home network to be much
| more boring, and am okay with that. I don't want to tinker
| with my home IT stuff much these days - I want it to just
| work, and changes to be easy.
|
| I've found Unifi Network and Unifi Protect to have come a
| long way in the past 3-4 years. They still drop hardware duds
| and software bugs here and there, but overall it's been a
| rather decent experience for the most part. I understand all
| the core level technology and configuration bits, but I
| simply do not have the desire to ssh into switches or
| whatever to configure a new port these days. Then open source
| NVR story is also just horrible even today.
|
| It's also great for remote installs for other non-technical
| people/orgs I help out with. One dashboard I can just click
| on and go take a look to figure out whatever problem they may
| be having. And a new setup takes hours vs. days.
| InTheArena wrote:
| 1)It's been forever since I have used the legacy interface, so
| I google'd it it went away in 7.3, which was 2+ years ago, so
| it seems you may be on a very very old version of Unifi US. I'm
| running 9.5.18, and I can confirm that option no longer exists
| (or is needed) 1) Also on the current version, to remove a DHCP
| client you can click on Client Devices / DHCP, and remove
| there. I just tested that as well. 2) Gateway traffic by
| individual client, ip, zone, etc works fine, in my experience,
| but I am also using Policy Engines, which I don't believe is
| supported on the version you are using. Policy engines can
| apply QoS, security, or routing to any object - ip, subnet, any
| sort of logical grouping. 3) I agree that it used to have a lot
| of problems with re-adopting, but it's been a while since I
| have seen that - the only time I ever see a re-adopting screen
| is after a OS re-install. 4) Network ACLs where replaced with
| policy again, but again, that's pretty new - you may be running
| a old version.
| Macha wrote:
| The legacy UI settings are available in Network > System >
| Interface in my UDM SE running Unifi Network 9.4.x
| rcdemski wrote:
| I don't know answers to all of yours but the couple I do
| know...
|
| - The fixed DHCP addresses are found under Client Devices.
| Click the Globe icon above the search box (To the right of the
| binoculars) to get the DHCP blade. All fixed reservations are
| listed, even for offline devices.
|
| -For ACLs I've had great success with their new object based
| model that I believe came in Network 9.3. Settings > Policy
| Engine > Objects
|
| I'm curious which devices you're using for both the gateway and
| switching equipment.
| Hamuko wrote:
| Might be an appealing product if I just needed networked mass
| storage, but my home NAS (Synology DS920+) is also a home server,
| running a bunch of applications. I imagine Ubiquiti isn't going
| to start making servers anytime soon either.
| esseph wrote:
| They did not, but MikroTik has...
|
| https://mikrotik.com/product/rds2216
| InTheArena wrote:
| Just a few words of caution - this doesn't directly compete with
| synoplogy. It's literally just a NAS box. That said, it's a NAS
| box at a awesome price / performance / capability point _if_ and
| only _if_ you are already in the Unifi namespace.
|
| I would say you are almost always better buying this + a mini-pc
| then a synology at this point, or a Ugreen NAS + TrueNAS if you
| want to do amost everything a synology can do.
| zbowling wrote:
| synology doens't even compete with synology anymore because all
| the new hardware requires locked in synology drives now.
|
| It's creating a void that is getting filled with Ugreen,
| Minisforum, beelink, Aoostor for invoative platforms from China
| and classic competitors like Qnap, Asustor, Teramaster, etc for
| innovation for the small to mid-tier needs. 45drives in the
| larger spaces for folks wanting to manage things more on their
| own but have enterprise scale needs. Dell and HP have always
| competed on the high-end enterprise space and also becoming a
| better option, even though synology is so easy as an appliance.
| rpcope1 wrote:
| Didn't Synology just walk back the whole "first party drives
| only" thing?
| psyclobe wrote:
| I love unfi system for my home lab it's feature rich and just
| constantly getting better
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