[HN Gopher] Flightcontrol: A PaaS that deploys to your AWS account
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       Flightcontrol: A PaaS that deploys to your AWS account
        
       Author : handfuloflight
       Score  : 155 points
       Date   : 2025-10-06 07:07 UTC (15 hours ago)
        
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       | crazycheesu wrote:
       | So this is basically a webgui for the aws cli ?
        
         | vends wrote:
         | Looks like it offers a much higher level of abstraction than
         | that.
         | 
         | Seems closer to Heroku/Vercel but running in your own AWS
         | account.
        
           | _joel wrote:
           | So AWS Beanstalk? :)
        
             | fhd2 wrote:
             | You forgot the trigger warning :)
             | 
             | But jokes aside, I use Beanstalk quite a bit and it's
             | mighty leaky, don't find it all that comparable to stuff
             | like fly.io, although in spirit it's the same thing I
             | suppose.
        
       | holografix wrote:
       | So it's a neo-Heroku?
        
       | cmdtab wrote:
       | I tried flight control but it was a bit buggy and rough. My
       | docker image worked differently on their platform compared to
       | other PAAS.
       | 
       | Lot of issues with slow AWS provision or missing APIs on AWS side
       | so it would take hours to delete resources created by them.
        
         | flybayer wrote:
         | When did you try it?
        
         | kolanos wrote:
         | Found this in their roadmap [0]:
         | 
         | > Managed ECS-EC2 clusters in preview
         | 
         | > AWS has a long standing issue with the ECS agent randomly
         | disconnecting, resulting in orphaned EC2 instances which can
         | cause traffic or deployment degradation.
         | 
         | > We have attempted to solve this a few ways in the past, but
         | there were still critical edge cases falling through.
         | 
         | > So we bit the bullet, and developed a robust, full featured
         | ECS cluster management solution to solve this problem once and
         | for all.
         | 
         | > It's currently in private preview. To get early access before
         | we roll it out to everyone, contact support.
         | 
         | I found elsewhere in the Flight control docs where they
         | recommend ECs+EC2. While I'm not surprised to hear about issues
         | with ECS+EC2, given the reported issues above I don't know if
         | I'd recommend it in my docs. Fargate is a far better option for
         | most use cases, at least in my experience. Unless you need
         | specialized instance types, like GPU workloads.
         | 
         | [0]: https://roadmap.flightcontrol.dev/changelog
        
       | arpinum wrote:
       | This could have been some custom cdk constructs. Then at least
       | you can plug in SQS / SNS / DynamoDB / CW / IAM all in one
       | solution. Flightcontrol doesn't seem to offer these.
        
         | catlifeonmars wrote:
         | I've been getting great mileage out of service catalog
         | products. They're a great middle ground between custom CDK and
         | in-house PaaS. You can even use them as CloudFormation
         | resources so they compose well and users are agnostic to which
         | CDK language (or Terraform even!) that is used to write them.
         | I'm currently experimenting with using them to expose terraform
         | modules as CDK constructs.
        
           | coredog64 wrote:
           | Service Catalog is on my top 5 list of terrible AWS developer
           | experiences, and I've used practically every mainstream
           | service.
        
             | catlifeonmars wrote:
             | Oh interesting, what was your experience with it, out of
             | curiosity?
             | 
             | For my part, there was some initial friction making it
             | usable from the publisher perspective but haven't really
             | had issues using it from the consumer side.
        
       | tuananh wrote:
       | i remember deis, it was amazing self-hosted heroku. too bad they
       | were bought by microsoft.
       | 
       | and then there's also flynn.
        
       | bilekas wrote:
       | > Your team gets bogged down with complex Terraform scripts,
       | manual configuration, and endless CI/CD pipelines.
       | 
       | I really hate marketing speak like this. Terraform is there
       | specifically to solve the Aws infrastructure complexity.you
       | create your system once and minor changes if needed.
       | 
       | > Flightcontrol fully automates infrastructure provisioning,
       | CI/CD, and deployments. All within your own AWS account where you
       | retain full visibility and control
       | 
       | Why does everyone think this is a desirable thing? Excluding
       | adding to your aws price, you're now vendor locked in for your
       | pipelines also.
       | 
       | I'm not seeing any benefits here for any already established
       | company, maybe a small start-up of fresh graduates who don't want
       | to learn Iac/DevOps ?
        
         | MrBuddyCasino wrote:
         | > _Terraform is there specifically to solve the Aws
         | infrastructure complexity._
         | 
         | I don't know if anyone here remembers the Ant build system, but
         | writing your own Terraform spaghetti strongly resembles the
         | days of Ant, before Maven came along. Teams over-engineering
         | their build pipeline, building "platforms" that other teams
         | must use, an unmaintainable and untestable mess. Time better
         | spent elsewhere.
        
           | Y-bar wrote:
           | > Teams over-engineering their build pipeline, building
           | "platforms" that other teams must use, an unmaintainable and
           | untestable mess. Time better spent elsewhere.
           | 
           | This hits home so much!
           | 
           | I remember last year when I asked our Cloud Ops to add an
           | additional EC2 instance and adjust sizes on two others. It
           | took twelve work hours and resulted in +3k -2k changed lines
           | "because they had no way of doing it now without merging
           | seven hundred other changes.
        
             | MrBuddyCasino wrote:
             | Its an anti-pattern that negates some of the advantages of
             | the cloud and re-introduces issues people had when things
             | were still handled by the old internal IT infra department.
             | I've seen it a lot.
        
             | darkwater wrote:
             | That smells like some really nasty problem in your company.
             | If the change was really what you said it was, it might
             | take some time and terraform code (i.e. nested submodules
             | with hardcoded values that needs to support parameters all
             | the way down) but it should not be a diff of that size.
        
             | esafak wrote:
             | Do you know what they did wrong? I would have made a stink
             | about this.
        
           | bilekas wrote:
           | > Teams over-engineering their build pipeline, building
           | "platforms" that other teams must use, an unmaintainable and
           | untestable mess. Time better spent elsewhere.
           | 
           | I have to disagree a little here, if you're already in AWS,
           | then an investment in fixing your terraform structure is not
           | just worth the money, but gives you a better understanding of
           | the infrastructure architecture, you also retain ownership of
           | your deployments. What happens if Flightcontrol go down for
           | whatever reason? Or are sold off like other's we've seen, or
           | god forbid you need some fine tuning that isn't in the
           | Flightcontrol's website. You're now depending on, and maybe
           | even paying for, an external company for devops support to do
           | something you already know how to do.
           | 
           | It seems to be in the long term, that time is definitely not
           | better spent elsewhere.
        
             | MrBuddyCasino wrote:
             | > _What happens if Flightcontrol go down for whatever
             | reason? Or are sold off like other 's we've seen, or god
             | forbid you need some fine tuning that isn't in the
             | Flightcontrol's website._
             | 
             | These are all valid points. This is a fundamental issue
             | with relying on non-open 3rd party solutions and (leaky)
             | abstractions. The best solution here would be some standard
             | that the hyperscalers implement themselves, but this is of
             | course incredibly unlikely.
        
               | Esophagus4 wrote:
               | > the hyperscalers implement themselves
               | 
               | I wouldn't be surprised to see that at some point if
               | these tools catch on.
               | 
               | AWS in particular has a pattern of bringing toys everyone
               | loves in house and making managed services out of them.
        
               | Taikonerd wrote:
               | > _some standard that the hyperscalers implement
               | themselves_
               | 
               | I'm kind of amazed that they haven't already. It would be
               | such a good selling point for Azure, or GCP, etc. "We
               | have a UI like Heroku or Vercel. Compare that to our
               | confusing competitors!"
        
           | CuriouslyC wrote:
           | There are two devops patterns that WORK:
           | 
           | 1. All centrally managed. Engineers hand off repos and devops
           | own the instantiation. Devop is a core team with an infra
           | monorepo.
           | 
           | 2. Devops capable engineers are embedded into teams, and each
           | project owns its own infrastructure with golden path
           | guidance.
           | 
           | The hybrid version, central management of most stuff with
           | project specific devops burden, is the worst of both and
           | causes no end of problems.
        
           | throwaway61352 wrote:
           | I guess in an ideal world, a service like this would be a
           | layer on top of Terraform. Changes in the admin page would be
           | applied using Terraform, and update the config in your own
           | Git repository. I think this would be much easier to sell,
           | even if they choose to make it "write only" to avoid
           | potential complexity of managing user defined configs.
           | 
           | They could get customers initially by promising a simple
           | start to get "on the cloud", but would keep customers due to
           | support, scaling, monitoring, ci/cd and maintenance. Cheap
           | startups could use it as a one-time tool, but I think a lot
           | would see the added value they bring.
        
             | flybayer wrote:
             | Stay tuned, we're working on the next version of
             | Flightcontrol which is in this direction.
        
         | bionsystem wrote:
         | Non-ops teams in big corp / public services are often fed up by
         | their own IT (slowness, incompetence) and want to deploy,
         | budget lines for recruiting devops/sysops is sometimes
         | different than software/platform licenses, even if the solution
         | is sub-optimal.
         | 
         | Disclaimer I'm an SRE/sysops and went through a bunch of those
         | projects where sometimes entire department see (often shadow)
         | IT from contractors as the only solution moving forward.
        
         | master_crab wrote:
         | Terraform _used_ to solve the AWS infrastructure problem. But
         | at a certain scale it becomes the problem.
        
           | balls187 wrote:
           | Is this an issue with Terraform, or "infrastructure-as-code"
           | in general?
        
             | master_crab wrote:
             | Very much an IaC trait.
        
         | hanikesn wrote:
         | >Terraform is there specifically to solve the Aws
         | infrastructure complexity
         | 
         | No, terraform passes AWS complexity 1:! onto you, it just
         | allows you to tackle it in an ordered fashion.
        
         | mannyv wrote:
         | Terraform isn't there to resolve the complexity of aws, it's
         | there so you can manage tour aws deploy more easily.
         | 
         | In fact, terraform exposes the complexity of AWS, since with
         | terraform you need to hook everything up manually.
         | 
         | And avoiding vendor lock in is an illusion. Everyone is locked
         | in to some extent. Just design things so you can move providers
         | by understanding your system and architecting it correctly.
         | 
         | Not taking advantage of extra capabilities vendors provide you
         | is just stupid. SQS/lambda is great. Why avoid it, because one
         | day in the far future you might move to GCP? Protip: if you
         | move to GCP (or Oracle cloud, or IBM cloud, or CloudFlare, etc)
         | you're going to rebuild everything anyway.
         | 
         | For larger companies this will get shut down, because the idea
         | of some random team deploying to the cloud by themselves is a
         | security breach that hasn't been reported yet.
        
       | BoorishBears wrote:
       | I liked Flightcontrol, found it more reliable and less finicky
       | than Cloud Build + Cloud Run, but it was too expensive for me.
       | 
       | They introduced a cheaper plan since I tried it, but it's missing
       | the main feature that I actually think makes FC worth it (preview
       | environments)
       | 
       | I know not everyone wants to get in on the Vercel Cartel model of
       | excessive free-tier generosity made up for by 1000% markups at
       | scale... but $400/month is tough to swallow when you barely need
       | $50/month of compute to handle your production workload.
        
         | gervwyk wrote:
         | Same problem, used them for about a year. Nice experience but
         | too pricey. also escalated our aws fees, perhapsa good idea,
         | but too pricey for what we need.
        
       | hshdhdhehd wrote:
       | Nice idea. I work at SP500 corp and we have platform teams
       | provide this. I always wondered if it could be a startup. My
       | reservation with tbis is tbe classic one: not open source. But I
       | totally get why it isn't. Although FOSS might work as the value
       | (at work and here too) is in having someone in a Slack channel
       | that can help if a deploy gets stuck. The code is kind of a
       | terraform-esque of sorts.
        
         | eclark wrote:
         | I think 'Batteries Included' would interest you, then. Like
         | this, it's installable on AWS. It's a whole platform PaaS + AI
         | + more built on open source. So Kubernetes is at the core, but
         | with tons of automation and UI. Dev environments are Kubernetes
         | in Docker (Kind-based).
         | 
         | - https://github.com/batteries-included/batteries-included/ -
         | https://www.batteriesincl.com/
        
       | thevivekshukla wrote:
       | In general I love the PaaS experience and I can see the value
       | Flightcontrol can potentially provide to the companies that work
       | mostly with AWS. The free starter plan for individual is tempting
       | to try out Flightcontrol, BTW what is the service limit for free
       | plan? I could not find it.
       | 
       | I am also working on similar tool[1] but it's bit more niche to
       | batch jobs type functionality but not just limited to AWS rather
       | it's cloud agnostic.
       | 
       | [1]: Daestro - https://daestro.com
        
         | flybayer wrote:
         | There is no service limit on the free plan. It's limited to a
         | single user instead.
        
       | slig wrote:
       | It's a shame that "Preview environments" are only available on
       | the business plan @ $397/m. I guess that it makes sense if you're
       | expending $4k+/m on AWS.
        
         | pelagicdev wrote:
         | Coolify is your best option here. It has preview environments
         | and lots of other built-in features - just the cost of your
         | server if you're savvy enough to get things setup yourself.
         | https://coolify.io/
        
           | slig wrote:
           | Thanks, I was watching a video about Coolify vs Dokploy from
           | "Dreams of Code", and I think I'm going to try Dokploy first.
        
       | the_real_cher wrote:
       | Seems like AWS should offer something like this.
        
         | evantbyrne wrote:
         | They do with app runner, but last I checked, for some reason
         | services were capped at low CPU/Memory and didn't allow basic
         | ECS features like attached storage. I think they also had
         | another one... AWS is very fragmented and strange.
        
         | coredog64 wrote:
         | Dollar dollar bills y'all: https://aws.amazon.com/managed-
         | services/
         | 
         | They offer two discrete services. One is a simplified AWS where
         | the interface is something like Service Now and you don't have
         | access to the environment to make control plane changes. The
         | second (and newer) offering is that they will onboard to your
         | existing AWS operating environment and assist with running your
         | applications.
        
           | the_real_cher wrote:
           | I worked on one of the first aws managed services that
           | integrated directly with service now back in the early 2010's
           | at G.E.
           | 
           | They laid off my whole team because AWS started doing our job
           | and better, LOL.
           | 
           | So I see OPs post and it brings back memories.
        
       | ramses0 wrote:
       | Pour one out for Flight Control, the $0.99 phenom of an app back
       | in the early iOS days.
       | 
       | It came to mind due to the iOS 26 "Games" app reminding me of
       | 12-y/o "Achievements" that now only exist as flags in a database.
        
         | atonse wrote:
         | That was such an amazingly simple, well executed, and fun game.
         | 
         | Thanks for the reminder.
        
       | languagehacker wrote:
       | There's definitely a market for something like this, because most
       | software companies at a certain size end up needing to build
       | something like this. The real question is, how much work will you
       | need to do to fit your current software to their paradigm in
       | order to get the benefit? For a newer project, there's likely
       | little sunk cost, but for anything that's already
       | productionalized, I don't doubt that the rework -- particularly
       | around all the devops bits and pieces -- will likely be
       | significant. And then of course, from a strategic standpoint, you
       | need to balance the risks vs. rewards of hitching your wagon to
       | Flightcontrol's set of conventions.
       | 
       | There will be a really solid chunk of projects that find good
       | cost savings using this platform -- especially teams that are
       | resource-constrained on devops and don't consider it their core
       | competency.
        
       | CuriouslyC wrote:
       | Data point: I wouldn't use a service for this, but I can see that
       | there are plenty who will. The defensible moat is pager duty as a
       | service, every engineering org on the planet will push management
       | for that.
        
       | infecto wrote:
       | Can we fix the title? It's not AWS PaaS but a PaaS built on top
       | of AWS. I thought it was a new service being launched by AWS.
        
         | ChicagoBoy11 wrote:
         | I had the exact same reaction, and then when reading some of
         | the copy thought to myself: "omg, can't believe they are being
         | so degrading to how clunky their own dashboards and things
         | are!" And then it hit me...
        
         | rco8786 wrote:
         | Ditto
        
         | dang wrote:
         | We've changed the title now to what the page says. (Submitted
         | title was "Flightcontrol: AWS PaaS")
         | 
         | Submitters: " _Please submit the original source. If a post
         | reports on something found on another site, submit the latter._
         | " - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
       | jakespracher wrote:
       | Use it and like it. If using aws is a requirement but you don't
       | want to get bogged down with their user experience it's worth it
       | IMO.
       | 
       | Have run into some aws quirks leaking out of their abstraction.
       | But personally that has only made me say "man if they couldn't
       | figure out how to make this clean, I would have been toast
       | dealing with it on my own"
        
       | dewey wrote:
       | Similar and not tied to a cloud provider: https://dokku.com
        
         | bpicolo wrote:
         | Not similar - dokku doesn't support distributed compute. It's a
         | platform intended for use on a single server.
        
           | josegonzalez wrote:
           | Dokku maintainer here.
           | 
           | Dokku supports distributed compute via our k3s scheduler
           | plugin. This can setup its own k3s cluster or connect to an
           | existing Kubernetes cluster and deploys helm charts on this
           | clusters for your app.
        
             | kolanos wrote:
             | Please provide links for the docs to this, as this was a
             | misconception I had about Dooku as well.
        
       | evantbyrne wrote:
       | I built something very similar to this a few years ago, sold it
       | for way less ($3/service), and ultimately decided not to spend
       | money marketing it. Building the product made it super clear that
       | AWS costs were grossly inflated, which they hid with dark UX, and
       | I wanted to help small teams and hobbyists. Today, if you are a
       | small team that doesn't really need more than one large VPS, you
       | should seriously consider Docker Swarm. Not to say that
       | Flightcontrol looks bad. In fact, it looks quite nice. Something
       | like this could save you a lot of money if you would otherwise
       | need full-time devops.
        
         | achandlerwhite wrote:
         | Can you elaborate on Docker Swarm? I thought it lost out to
         | Kubernetes and was effectively dead.
        
           | evantbyrne wrote:
           | Swarm never died. Kubernetes was designed for an entirely
           | different level of scale and there is inherent complexity in
           | that. Whereas starting a production-ready container service
           | with Swarm only takes a few commands on a fresh Docker
           | installation.
        
           | lightningspirit wrote:
           | I've been using Docker Swarm for almost 6 years now deploying
           | entire stacks for customers on top of it -- it's stable and
           | incredibly cheap to maintain.
        
       | gregorvand wrote:
       | Trust suggestion: make it easier to find photos of the founders,
       | than the investors.
        
         | esafak wrote:
         | Wait ... where _are_ the founders?
        
           | burkaman wrote:
           | Here, I guess:
           | https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flightcontrol
           | 
           | It is very strange to have headshots of individual investors
           | on the page that would normally have pictures of your team.
        
         | flybayer wrote:
         | Good suggestion, our company page is updated to include the
         | founders
        
       | coolgoose wrote:
       | I am still happy with northflank. A bit more infra provider
       | independence is nice to have. (we are actually moving from gcp to
       | aws )
        
       | 8cvor6j844qw_d6 wrote:
       | Skimmed the docs but does Flightcontrol allows a cost cutoff?
       | 
       | I wanted to go with AWS but ended up with Digital Ocean / Vercel
       | for personal stuffs due to concerns on AWS horror bills.
        
         | flybayer wrote:
         | No, but we support cost budget alerts.
        
       | endriju wrote:
       | I think the problem with these general-purpose PaaS on top of
       | Cloud is exactly that they're general-purpose. You will run into
       | limitations and issues as soon as you start doing things only
       | 5-10% of their customers need, like for example running
       | privileged docker containers in kubernetes or wanting to manage
       | parts of your infra with terraform. I'd much rather see tools
       | helping me deploy one particular niche use case in Cloud really
       | well. BTW I'm trying to follow this mantra while building
       | https://staticbot.dev
        
         | roncesvalles wrote:
         | And their value prop that you need expensive hard-to-find AWS
         | DevOps Engineer _s_ to run your AWS infra is just fear-
         | mongering.
         | 
         | I think people vastly overestimate how hard it is to learn AWS.
         | It may seem daunting at first but it only takes like a week --
         | one good YouTube series to cover the basics like IAM, and a lot
         | of playing around with the GUI console, CloudFormation, and
         | pestering support till it all clicks. Multiple backend devs in
         | your team should be able to own your CloudFormation/Terraform
         | scripts and your cloud infra. I basically did exactly this in
         | my new grad SWE job.
         | 
         | Just fucking learn it. You don't need to hire someone for every
         | little thing. Don't treat AWS like some complex arcane machine
         | that only a 3x AWS-certified "Cloud DevOps Engineer" with 10
         | years of experience should touch. And for the love of God don't
         | add more 3rd party layers like TFA. Most of the world is raw-
         | dogging AWS, why is your company an exception?
        
       | johnthuss wrote:
       | Amazon has their own PaaS offering called Elastic Beanstalk, with
       | support for running docker containers and other popular
       | platforms. It's not complicated to set up and is customizable if
       | you need to tweak things. Any idea how Flightcontrol compares to
       | this?
        
         | whs wrote:
         | We acquired a company that use EB and they have no dedicated
         | DevOps engineer. It was bad because every deploy is a full VM
         | boot which takes a long time and you can't do things you can do
         | with Argo Rollouts. We migrated them to EKS.
         | 
         | I casually asked our account manager "Do you know any local
         | customer with EB success story?" Their answer was "Do you want
         | to be one?"
        
         | smt88 wrote:
         | EB is buggy garbage. We switched to FlightControl to get a
         | similar experience without the bugs and headache.
        
       | jimt1234 wrote:
       | > Flightcontrol gives our team the power to manage bare metal AWS
       | ...
       | 
       | "bare metal"? Hmmm. I think we have different definitions of that
       | phrase.
        
       | this_user wrote:
       | All we need need now is "PaaS as Code" (PaC) services as the next
       | iteration of DevOps stacks that increasingly border parody.
        
       | birdalbrocum wrote:
       | Why web developer culture is so annoying when it comes to naming
       | things? Serverless? It is actually a server. Flight control?
       | Nothing to do with airports or flights or whatsoever.
        
         | dewey wrote:
         | "Deploying" a new feature into "staging" also doesn't have to
         | do anything with a battle. Naming is hard and most project
         | names just pick a fun name.
         | 
         | Your point about "serverless" I can understand, but "Flight
         | control" seems like a great name for a product like that.
        
         | kube-system wrote:
         | Creating new words from existing words or concepts is how
         | language works. In fact, "airport" is an example of this...
         | ports were originally for boats.
         | 
         | New terminology may sound strange to people who are not
         | familiar with it, but if people start to adopt it, it becomes a
         | normal and accepted word. Basically every word has gone though
         | this process at some point.
         | 
         | And brand names are often witty puns or irrelevant words,
         | intentionally. Using descriptive words for a brand is legally a
         | bad idea, because this can disqualify you for trademarks. The
         | point of trade marks is to uniquely identify the offering -- if
         | you named it descriptively you risk losing this. Apple
         | computers are not fruit, and Windows computers are not
         | transparent glass. If you named your computer "computer" you
         | wouldn't have a brand, and nobody would be able to know what to
         | refer to _your_ computer.
        
       | nemothekid wrote:
       | I wonder how many of these exist at every company. At $dayjob we
       | have built something similar over the years. We have a custom
       | load balancer that will query ECS, provision certificates with
       | lets encrypt and even provision domains inside Cloudflare. We
       | also have deploy previews, and various services on lambda
       | function urls. We used to use mesos but transitioned to ecs, so
       | we even have a homegrown "chronos" for running scheduled jobs on
       | ecs.
        
         | SOLAR_FIELDS wrote:
         | This is the end result of the "but kubernetes is too
         | complicated" argument. You end up hand rolling all of the
         | things it gives you out of the box. I'm sure you have your
         | reasons for not using kube, but every one of those things you
         | mentioned you get in a standardized way with kube
        
           | nemothekid wrote:
           | We were on Mesos before so k8s complexity wasn't the deciding
           | factor. If I cared about being could-agnostic, I would have
           | gone the kubernetes route. The main factor was we decided to
           | move as much as possible to aws managed services so that we
           | wouldn't be responsible for their operation. Once we have
           | made this decision, then paying the premium for EKS over ECS
           | Fargate didn't make much sense.
           | 
           | From there a lot of our custom software is just adapting the
           | AWS platform for our taste. For example, we define a lot of
           | our routing configuration using docker labels (similar to
           | Traefik), so we needed a reverse proxy that could handle
           | that.
        
         | coredog64 wrote:
         | > so we even have a homegrown "chronos" for running scheduled
         | jobs on ecs
         | 
         | EventBridge scheduler is finally available in GovCloud
        
       | tracker1 wrote:
       | Wow, they are definitely targeting Heroku with this...
       | specifically calling them out towards the end of the page.
       | 
       | That said, I'm surprised that Azure and GCP don't already have
       | similar service offerings... I'm not sure about nixpacks over
       | direct Dockerfile usage though. Would also be nice to see a
       | WebASM package system as well for single ip/socket services and
       | web-service request handlers. Simplify the application layer as
       | much as possible and make logging via line-separated json on
       | stdout the norm... add layers to relay logging and handle TLS
       | termination. IT just makes sense... it also makes sense to bundle
       | services onto fewer servers based on actual ram/cpu usage. Maybe
       | an easy button for redundancy, and that's it.
       | 
       | There's a lot of appeal in what fly, deno, cloudflare and others
       | are offering but to a broader range of options than just JS focus
       | with WebASM as a minor afterthought with weird limitations in
       | practice.
        
         | arccy wrote:
         | at least for GCP, isn't that cloud run?
        
           | kolanos wrote:
           | Just reading over the docs, you'll need a lot more GCP
           | services than Cloud Run to encompass what Flightcontrol is
           | managing for you. The Cloud Run analog is Fargate. Which is
           | only the container orchestration piece.
        
         | kolanos wrote:
         | Looks like you can use your own Dockerfile or a container
         | registry. Suspect nixpacks are just a recommended starting
         | point for people looking to get up and running quickly.
        
       | MrDarcy wrote:
       | Is the paas built on Kubernetes?
        
         | kolanos wrote:
         | Looks like it is ECS with either Fargate or EC2. If you don't
         | need more control over your containers, Fargate is a good
         | default.
        
       | freshnode wrote:
       | Using it. Moving off it.
       | 
       | RDS public by default (!), and the private config just removes
       | the public IP address rather than puts in private subnet. Causes
       | it to fail CIS benchmark which is requirement for FTR.
       | 
       | When I raised it I was told I was wrong.
       | 
       | I think there is a good future for the product but one size fits
       | all config comes with downsides. IMO Would be better if it was
       | IaC but with pre built "blocks" app, cache, etc, which you could
       | easily customize. I also think the pricing is too steep for your
       | average scaling bootstrapper which is where Heroku et al shined.
        
         | flybayer wrote:
         | RDS has been default private for probably 6 months or longer.
         | 
         | > Would be better if it was IaC but with pre built "blocks"
         | app, cache, etc, which you could easily customize
         | 
         | We are working on a major new product version that does exactly
         | this ;)
        
       | bdcravens wrote:
       | While I'm sure the implementation isn't the same, Cloud66 has
       | been doing this for a long time.
        
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