[HN Gopher] Ambigr.am
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       Ambigr.am
        
       Author : surprisetalk
       Score  : 215 points
       Date   : 2025-10-05 04:11 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | colesantiago wrote:
       | The Sun Microsystems logo is one of the most famous (and my
       | personal favorite) ambigram logos.
       | 
       | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SUN_microsystems_log...
        
         | ChrisArchitect wrote:
         | :-O
         | 
         | TIL or rather today I _saw_ the letters there for the first
         | time. Just thought it was S 's all these years! Nice one
        
         | merelysounds wrote:
         | Interestingly, rotational ambigrams can also occur naturally,
         | e.g. "OHIO":
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram#/media/File%3AAmbigra...
        
       | emil-lp wrote:
       | Related: Ambigrammia
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44692118
        
       | 0wis wrote:
       | Interesting site ! There is something playful in the idea of
       | ambigrams that I can't explain. Maybe something like a puzzle ?
       | 
       | A nice project could be to automate a generator. It must be quite
       | hard because it feels like a mix between a Captcha and an AI
       | hallucination but made right. The << glyph >> search part of the
       | site is maybe the best asset to start with a database of possible
       | matches.
        
         | ares623 wrote:
         | Building one is definitely a puzzle. And trying to read it
         | upside down/flipped without actually flipping it is also a kind
         | of puzzle (i.e. like trying to run a compilation in your head,
         | trying to see in your mind first before "running"/"compiling"
         | the program).
         | 
         | They're also like the made-up language from the movie Arrival.
         | You kind of need to know the end and the beginning at the same
         | time.
         | 
         | I wonder how good GenAI is in generating ambigrams. I know
         | they're very good in generating those visual illusions of
         | having a face in a landscape. Perhaps that can be the next
         | "Pelican test" once the Pelican test has been completely
         | absorbed in training.
        
         | smusamashah wrote:
         | Image Diffusion models are already capable of this. There was a
         | research paper and I believe model was released as well, which
         | ch generates visual illusions where an image when flipped
         | becomes something else.
         | 
         | Same idea here. A text needs to be diffused from two views
         | until it looks the same but still matches the input. It might
         | already exist.
         | 
         | Edit: https://diffusionillusions.com/
         | 
         | Edit: Ambigram using Diffusion models https://raymond-
         | yeh.com/AmbiGen/
        
       | qwertytyyuu wrote:
       | Ha! that was my first dumb idea when i read about your problem as
       | well. Amazing that it actually worked
        
       | yreg wrote:
       | Maybe it's not possible for all character pairs, but we could
       | have a font-face with plenty of possible pairs and render them as
       | ligatures.
       | 
       | AD -> render an A that looks like a D when viewed upside down
       | 
       | DA -> render the same character in the other orientation
       | 
       | Then to use the font you need to carefully construct palindromes
       | out of the supported pairs. Of course copy-pasting this would be
       | a pita, accessibility would be non-existent, but could be fun for
       | print and such.
        
         | arthurcolle wrote:
         | This is a cool idea!
        
       | Ruphin wrote:
       | One of my favorite ambigrams is the title logo from an old 1995
       | PC game classic, Tyrian. It's so subtle I never realised until a
       | few years ago.
       | 
       | You can find the logo here, along with the excellent soundtrack:
       | https://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/album/tyrian-original-...
        
         | yoz-y wrote:
         | I've played and finished that game a dozen times and never
         | realized this! Thanks!
        
       | tantalor wrote:
       | Broken website? Just spins forever.
        
       | 65 wrote:
       | Ambigrams are a random useless talent I have. I'm able to write
       | backwards and upside down as well for whatever reason. I
       | hypothesized it's because I'm left handed.
        
         | schoen wrote:
         | That's usually called "mirror writing", but it's a different
         | concept. If you look closely at these examples, you'll see that
         | the letter forms are carefully chosen so that the texts are
         | _still readable as normal_ under symmetry (unlike regular
         | text).
         | 
         | This is done by creating letter forms that can be interpreted
         | as _other_ letter forms under symmetry, similar to the u and n
         | being interpreted as each other 's inverted forms. These
         | ambigrammists are making designs in which more pairs of letters
         | have that kind of relationship.
        
       | jonah wrote:
       | I was first introduced to Ambigrams many years ago when Scott Kim
       | was working on some game projects with one company I was at and
       | then did the logo for another company.
       | 
       | https://www.scottkim.com/ambigrams
       | 
       | https://www.scottkim.com/blog/categories/ambigrams
        
       | spankalee wrote:
       | I really don't understand this site. What is it?
        
         | azundo wrote:
         | Ambigrams can be read right side up and rotated by 180 degrees
         | (sometimes other rotations also exist). Some of the ones here
         | say the same thing when turned, and some say a different,
         | usually related, word or phrase.
        
           | spankalee wrote:
           | Now the site makes sense. There was no content on it before
           | and no explanation of what the site was. Just a leader board
           | with this AM logo thing...
           | 
           | Edit: well, on reload, it's blank again.
        
       | sert_121 wrote:
       | is this supposed to be feed only for ambigrams? or more of a
       | contest?
        
       | desireco42 wrote:
       | I love the idea but I love the site design even more. So
       | refreshing to see something like this. Simple yet original.
        
       | becomevocal wrote:
       | For a few years, many many years ago, I helped build the sites
       | for wowtattoos.com and redchapterclothing.com which uses the
       | artwork of Mark Palmer. He's the real deal! Awesome person too
       | 
       | Back in 2008-ish the site could generate ambigrams for you too.
       | It was powered by an algo that pieced together a large set of
       | hand drawn glyphs. PHP at it's best :D
       | 
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20080730222127/http://www.wowtat...
        
       | hackerbeat wrote:
       | By the way, I love https://wordgag.com/ - brings me a lot of joy
       | everyday.
        
       | cwmoore wrote:
       | up
       | 
       | dn
        
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