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       The strangest letter of the alphabet: The rise and fall of yogh
        
       Author : penetralium
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2025-10-02 21:34 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | o11c wrote:
       | Yogh is indeed strange. Wynn is the most irritating loss though;
       | couldn't we have at least kept the name rather than "double-yoo"?
        
         | mminer237 wrote:
         | That would be convenient. Microsoft would have had to rename
         | the [?] key then lol.
        
       | specproc wrote:
       | The old English '' has visual similarities with the Georgian 'g',
       | also our 'g'.
       | 
       | We've two letters that are visually similar to yogh 'y': 'v' (an
       | English 'v', or 'w' if you're Tbliseli), and 'p' (a hard 'p').
       | Our 'gh' sound is 'g''.
        
       | choult wrote:
       | In the UK, yogh existed in Scotland a while longer than in
       | England. You can observe it still in the name Menzies which is
       | pronounced Ming-is there - the z in place of the yogh.
       | 
       | In the last week, our most famous Menzies passed away -
       | politician Sir "Ming" Campbell.
        
         | jgtrosh wrote:
         | That's /'mINGIs/,/'mINGgIs/ for anyone wondering
        
       | samgutentag wrote:
       | "English spelling has a reputation. And it's not a good one." -
       | never have i ever agreed with anything more
       | 
       | different hill, but one I would die on is: as the letter "c"
       | should make the "ch" sound, the letter "c" serves no purpose not
       | already handled by "s" or "k" otherwise
        
         | arkensaw wrote:
         | > It's full of silent letters, as in numb, knee, and honour. A
         | given sound can be spelled in multiple ways (farm, laugh,
         | photo), and many letters make multiple sounds (get, gist,
         | mirage).
         | 
         | that last one is hardly fair - gist and mirage are french
         | words. might as well complain about the silent letters in
         | rendezvous or faux pas.
        
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