[HN Gopher] Increasing your practice surface area
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       Increasing your practice surface area
        
       Author : ChanningAllen
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2025-10-01 18:20 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | Zambyte wrote:
       | This article might be interesting, and I'm not against AI use. I
       | am not interested in AI slop though, and I immediately lost
       | interest in the banner photo with nonsense text in it.
        
         | mirror_neuron wrote:
         | That was my first reaction, too, but it's not actually nonsense
         | - it's a depiction of Eminem practicing rhymes in a casual
         | conversation.
         | 
         | It's valid feedback for the author, though. I had to read the
         | article to understand the image.
        
           | chrisweekly wrote:
           | Yeah, it would probably work better if that image were
           | positioned after the reference to Eminem thinking of rhymes
           | all day.
        
           | NiloCK wrote:
           | AI polarization is a little interesting. The AI generated
           | image prompted the parent to not even consider whether the
           | content was on topic. This _might_ be a decent heuristic, but
           | it 's bound to throw out a lot of potentially useful stuff as
           | well.
        
         | ChanningAllen wrote:
         | Author here. Good feedback: the text isn't nonsense, but it
         | requires background knowledge that the man on the right is the
         | rapper Eminem.
        
         | AznHisoka wrote:
         | I'm an Eminem fan and didn't get that reference FWIW.
         | 
         | I thought it was some "Silicon Valley bro" that wanted you to
         | drink kelp, and build your biceps or something
        
           | ChanningAllen wrote:
           | Gotcha! Shame on me. Just slapped a "Slim Shady" label on his
           | hoodie. Won't fully stop the bleeding but at least a few more
           | people will get it.
        
             | Zambyte wrote:
             | Thanks for the change, sorry if I came off as too
             | aggressive. I've seen some uses of AI that were very
             | similar that strictly made the article worse and it would
             | have been better to simply delete it. I'll concede that I
             | simply didn't get it, and that's a me problem here. I'll
             | give the article a more fair chance when I have some time
             | later :)
        
         | jannyfer wrote:
         | I lost interest when I got to the email address box to
         | subscribe. Interrupts the flow and makes me skim the rest.
        
       | danjl wrote:
       | Or, you can live a balanced happy life with relationships and
       | touching grass where you are "in the moment", and not always
       | distracted.
        
         | bdangubic wrote:
         | being passionate about something is not a distraction
        
           | wiseowise wrote:
           | Being passionate and obsessive are two different things.
           | 
           | > Turn idle time into mental rehearsal
           | 
           | Any psychologist would bash your head with a book for
           | following this.
        
       | BinaryIgor wrote:
       | Good read, _a summary_ :
       | 
       | When you become obsessed with A, your whole life becomes a
       | practice of A.
        
       | AznHisoka wrote:
       | This is the same thing that AJATT (All Japanese All The Time or
       | something) recommends to learn a new language too.
        
         | boerseth wrote:
         | I was gonna say. I did it with French some years ago and it
         | worked like a charm.
         | 
         | Later I became obsessed with Argentine tango. Unfortunately, I
         | thought, "comprehensible input" won't work with dancing,
         | especially not a couple's dance. Nevertheless, unable to dance
         | every day due to my local scene being quite small, I instead
         | consumed a boatload of YouTube videos during my spare time.
         | Instructional content, performances, class summaries, and what
         | have you. And I progressed super quickly.
         | 
         | First off, as a leader, it is good to have seen competent
         | dancers with good musicality and how they choose their steps to
         | fit with phrases of songs. That much fits in parallel with
         | input-based language acquisition techniques. But I also think I
         | gained a good amound of intuition about how to move my own
         | body. Not perfect intuition, but more than nothing, which was
         | very much my starting point.
        
           | peterfirefly wrote:
           | Watching lots of Doom videos on Youtube helped me learn some
           | aspects of the game surprisingly fast. I can't control
           | Doomguy as fast and as precisely as the best Doom youtubers
           | but I can read a situation in the game about as fast and as
           | good as they can and often come up with the plan they
           | eventually follow faster than they do.
        
             | boerseth wrote:
             | I get it! Years ago my obsession was Classic Tetris, and it
             | was common knowledge that watching skilled players at work
             | would improve your own stacking and strategy. A lot of the
             | pros openly admitted to watching their competition while
             | starting out in order to get good
        
       | ge96 wrote:
       | I wonder how the indie/entrepreneur space is doing nowadays. I
       | tried to do it myself but never really got anywhere this was back
       | in 2016. Whenever I go on sites/subreddits around this topic a
       | lot of the posts just seem to be about generating clout/some fake
       | revenue numbers/screenshot of earnings. It's like entrepreneurs
       | selling to each other.
       | 
       | I suppose nowadays it's probably around LLM wrappers, photo
       | generation, video generation services... there were those niche
       | ones in the past like the teacher with her bingo cards maker
       | 
       | It's still in my mind as I don't like waiting for a paycheck,
       | just wondering how the space is doing nowadays
        
         | ChanningAllen wrote:
         | It's doing better than ever! LLMs offer the equivalent of
         | $500k+ in outside funding if used correctly, so there's a huge
         | uptick in # of new bootstrapped startups.
         | 
         | In fact we (the Indie Hackers founders) are bootstrapping a new
         | B2B app now that Claude Code & Codex CLI (etc) are on the org
         | chat.
        
           | mikestorrent wrote:
           | I hope this is a parody post and not actually the real
           | exhultations of an actual founder.
        
             | zrules wrote:
             | For post-product-market-fit hires or scale-up engineering
             | teams, the interview process could skip LeetCode and
             | instead test how well candidates can identify and debug
             | issues introduced by LLMs. Less binary trees, more LLM bug-
             | hunting
        
         | mikestorrent wrote:
         | I don't want to use the word "grift", but it really seems like
         | we're scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to new
         | ideas for products a lot of the time. Go and read this month's
         | HN "Who is hiring" thread for an example. It's all either
         | fintech crypto crap that never seems to come to fruition for
         | anything normal people want to use, weird microloans, and
         | products for extremely small niches like using AI to help with
         | gift-giving and so forth.
         | 
         | It's honestly hard to imagine wanting to work 12 hour days to
         | advance some of these interests. We're seeing some of the
         | greatest minds of our generation lost to these kinds of
         | ephemeral, short-lived projects that flame up, consume VC, and
         | mostly burn out uselessly, having created a bunch of IP that is
         | shelved never to be seen again. What's the point?
         | 
         | Maybe we really all ought to just get drafted. At least I'd be
         | able to explain to my kids what I do for a living.
        
           | ge96 wrote:
           | Forced conscription sucks, at least a difference between real
           | war and something mandatory like 2 years of reserves
           | equivalent (I'm not talking about US)
        
           | egypturnash wrote:
           | Is it better or worse than when the greatest minds of our
           | generation were lost to increasing user engagement by any
           | means necessary?
        
       | kalap_ur wrote:
       | There is a book called "Talent is overrated" it essentially says,
       | you need to 1) invest time, 2) do targeted practice, and 3) have
       | a mentor, who helps you in targeted practice. Practice alone is
       | not enough, it must be targeted at 1) what is relevant and/or 2)
       | where your biggest weakness is at the moment.
        
       | satvikpendem wrote:
       | How is IndieHackers doing since being independent? I used to use
       | it quite a bit but it seemed like recently it's focused more on
       | articles, similar to Starter Story I guess, which makes a ton of
       | money so I can't blame you for going that route, than the forum
       | (which I can't even figure out how to get to anymore). But then
       | again, the forum had quite a lot of promotion and spam that got
       | boring to read after a while.
        
       | JackFr wrote:
       | > The difference between being good and being great isn't talent
       | or formal training, but the invisible practice that happens when
       | you're just living life.
       | 
       | Pure nonsense.
       | 
       | Necessary != sufficient, and honestly neither are demonstrated in
       | the anecdotes.
        
         | jvanderbot wrote:
         | Two things.
         | 
         | It's possible to be great at something simply by practicing,
         | assuming normal capabilities. But great here just means "better
         | than virtually everyone". Being mediocre among people who
         | practice regularly it makes you immediately better than
         | basically everyone who has done it once or twice. By most
         | definitions that's "great".
         | 
         | Median daily StarCraft ranked player? You're great at
         | StarCraft.
         | 
         | Second, if you start young enough, you get the compounding
         | effects of time. You're now "pretty good among lifelong daily
         | players in their prime". That's Olympic/ world class.
         | 
         | Like that guy who had kids just to make them Chess masters. He
         | did so by making chess part of the family life, so integral it
         | wasn't working it just _was_. The guy from the original post
         | actually.
         | 
         | So it's tempting to say things like TFA posits, and while I'm
         | not sure it's 100% true, it's definitely not 100% false or pure
         | rubbish.
        
       | wiseowise wrote:
       | This is new level of snake oil. When you're not selling your own
       | snake oil, but trying to piggyback off of other people.
       | 
       | Burn out speedrun 101.
       | 
       | If you want to keep your sanity, you need to find your own
       | passion, not try to emulate others (especially with crazy
       | routines like the examples).
        
       | bitbasher wrote:
       | This article is quite shallow. It's essentially saying, in order
       | to excel at something it needs to become a part of you.
       | 
       | There's some truth there, but Charles Bukowski said it much
       | better and more succinctly with, "Don't try." [1]
       | 
       | 1: https://poets.org/poem/so-you-want-be-writer
        
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