[HN Gopher] Modern Cars Wreak Havoc on Radar Detectors
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       Modern Cars Wreak Havoc on Radar Detectors
        
       Author : PaulHoule
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2025-08-13 19:55 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | steve_gh wrote:
       | ...or you could drive sensibly within the speed limit.
        
         | gwbas1c wrote:
         | What fun is that?
         | 
         | That being said, "speed culture" varies a lot from state to
         | state. Where I live it's assumed and expected that you will
         | speed, and in other areas you can get a ticket for going 1
         | over.
         | 
         | The legal and cultural ambiguity means that someone who is
         | unsure of the real, enforced, culturally-accepted speed limit
         | may want to use a radar detector.
        
         | devilbunny wrote:
         | Make the speed limit sensible, and I will.
         | 
         | I don't speed in Europe because 130 km/h is a perfectly fine
         | limit; I've driven faster on uncontrolled Autobahn segments,
         | but I'm not bothered when there is a limit. 65 mph on the NJ
         | Turnpike (and only on the southern part) is not.
        
         | HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
         | ...on the long (9 miles to the next town), straight county road
         | just by my house with a 50 mph speed limit that sees maybe 1
         | car per minute on average. There's a reason that the average
         | speed there is 65mph+
        
         | bsder wrote:
         | Then set the limits properly at the 85% mark. And ban speed
         | limit fines from going into local coffers.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | http://m8y.org/bloomcounty.jpg
        
         | The_President wrote:
         | There are back roads out there that drop 15 mph at the state
         | line with no population around for miles. Detectors offer peace
         | of mind for travel at a leisurely self-determined rate.
        
       | gwbas1c wrote:
       | If anyone's still reading this: As I read this, I think it makes
       | more sense for the police to replace radar with a high-resolution
       | camera and a computer that can determine speed of vehicles.
       | 
       | Any thoughts on that?
        
         | EA-3167 wrote:
         | It's hard to find exact stats because of how procurement and
         | statistics works across jurisdictions, states, etc... but from
         | what I CAN find it seems that LIDAR is more common than Radar
         | these days. Over the whole country it looks like a slight
         | majority lead for LIDAR, but in some (quite populous) states
         | they almost only use LIDAR (PA for example had 93% of their
         | tickets come from LIDAR, and I believe most of the rest used
         | speed cameras or 'clocking' rather than RADAR).
         | 
         | Sources:
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         | https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/TR/Transcripts/2018_00...
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         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar_traffic_enforcement
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         | https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/lidar-sp...
        
           | toomuchtodo wrote:
           | LIDAR can't be used in motion, the LEO has to be stopped to
           | be pointing it. Your laser detector will warn you, but it's
           | already too late at that point; my two cents is using
           | Waze/Google LEO alerts is state of the art at this point
           | (until someone starts multilateration of patrol cars using
           | their radio RF emissions and SDR networks).
        
             | bob1029 wrote:
             | > LIDAR can't be used in motion
             | 
             | To be clear, the reason for this is because the width of
             | the beam requires aiming it like a sniper rifle, not
             | because we can't compensate for operator motion.
        
         | netsharc wrote:
         | It's fine... if you're fine with constant video surveillance.
        
           | FridayoLeary wrote:
           | welcome to the UK.
        
       | The_President wrote:
       | Lotta miles using radar detectors -- they detect 3 different
       | bands of radar and some "detect laser." Radar detectors are great
       | insurance, and more useful on the open highway than they are in
       | town, but I've not seen a vehicle give off Ka band emissions that
       | wasn't law enforcement. I have noticed that newer Honda cars set
       | off the K band, which is also used by a lot of the cheap
       | lightpole "your speed" I've seen. Very rarely still I will see X
       | band speed radar being used in the middle of nowhere where the
       | cop cars are older.
       | 
       | Radar detector users just learn to ignore the X and K band alerts
       | while simultanously learning a subconscious quarter second brake
       | reaction time based on the Ka band noise.
        
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