[HN Gopher] Open Lovable
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Open Lovable
Author : iamflimflam1
Score : 133 points
Date : 2025-08-10 10:10 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| pyman wrote:
| Great initiative! I'd love to see this project build a community
| around it. Quick question, what do you need Firecrawl for?
| bravesoul2 wrote:
| Can I run the whole chain FOSS? Firecrawl, this (maybe the LLM
| can be local too?)
| kroaton wrote:
| It needs a Docker-Compose.
| aziis98 wrote:
| I didn't know about https://e2b.dev/ but I was looking for
| something exactly like that. Does anyone know about any self
| hostable alternatives?
| sudhirb wrote:
| It appears that e2b runs Firecracker microVMs
| (https://e2b.dev/blog/how-manus-uses-e2b-to-provide-agents-
| wi...)
|
| It shouldn't be too hard to get a Firecracker orchestrator
| running locally - the articles here were very helpful when I
| was doing this myself:
| https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/01/23/firecracker--start-a-vm-in-l...
| davidgomes wrote:
| You should look at [Modal](https://modal.com/), not affiliated.
| thundergolfer wrote:
| Lovable runs on Modal Sandboxes.
| mritchie712 wrote:
| you can host e2b:
| https://github.com/e2b-dev/infra/blob/main/self-host.md
|
| we host it for https://www.definite.app/. You'd need pretty
| heavy usage to beat e2b's pricing.
| umate wrote:
| You can check out https://daytonaio-ai.framer.website/, it's
| also could be self-hosted
| Areibman wrote:
| Played with https://www.freestyle.sh this weekend, really solid
| ulrischa wrote:
| Why would I do this? It would be better to have an app that turns
| a react app into a native web app. Speculation rules and page
| transitions make it possible already.
| cal85 wrote:
| Wait is this a Lovable clone that is actually called open-
| lovable? That seems bold
| dudeinjapan wrote:
| Im waiting for open-open-ai
| guerrilla wrote:
| Everyone's waiting for open-open-ai.
| bravesoul2 wrote:
| You're in luck! https://openai.com/open-models/
| merelysounds wrote:
| With "open" being such a common word, I wonder if that one
| might actually get a pass. And if not, then maybe open-
| squared-ai.
| xtajv wrote:
| It seems like trademark infringement.
| croes wrote:
| Can't find a Loveable trademark for the app AI
| yencabulator wrote:
| Well, for starters, it's not spelled with that first e.
|
| https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=99194755&caseSearchType=
| U...
| cal85 wrote:
| also trademark registration is not remotely relevant here
| yencabulator wrote:
| What do you mean? It's literally the legal mechanism by
| which Lovable Labs Incorporated can prevent this guy from
| calling his thing open-lovable.
| SonOfLilit wrote:
| Registering your trademark makes enforcement easier, but
| there's a reason both TM _and_ R exist - unregistered
| trademarks still hold power.
| yencabulator wrote:
| Sure. But for a company with a lot of money at stake,
| filing a trademark application isn't a huge bar and makes
| winning the legal case a lot easier.
| cal85 wrote:
| nope, fire your lawyer. you get a common law trademark by
| trading under a name. no need to register it. TM
| registration is just to streamline big corps chasing
| after lots of small abusers in a wackamole way, that's
| all. if the abuse in question is as egregious as "I used
| their product name, barely modified, to market my own
| thing, which is not just in the same general market but a
| literal clone of their product" then a judge is not going
| to say "Ah but I see they didn't send in a form to
| register their trademark, so yeah carry on with blatantly
| stealing their work lol"
| yencabulator wrote:
| Lovable is a $1.8 B valuation company with $75 M ARR.
| Using some thousands of dollars to defend that stake
| sounds reasonable.
| bravesoul2 wrote:
| I feel like "also trademark registration is not remotely
| relevant here" is a distracting statement then. Not
| necessarily wrong but easy for people to bikeshed over.
| conradev wrote:
| As long as it's not misleading:
| https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic...
|
| I am reminded of OpenNext (https://opennext.js.org/) even
| though Vercel has a Next.js trademark.
| cal85 wrote:
| compliance with a github policy isn't really the issue lol
| rbren wrote:
| Having started OpenDevin (now OpenHands [1]) I can say it's
| definitely worth renaming. It's very limiting attaching your
| branding to someone else's
|
| [1] https://github.com/All-Hands-AI/OpenHands
| echelon wrote:
| It gets you some quick attention.
|
| The people that need to notice will follow.
| Uehreka wrote:
| It feels like a common thing in the AI space (moreso than other
| OSS spaces). People don't get how trademarks work and that you
| can't just name your project after something that's already
| popular. I think some people think it's a clever growth hack.
| pointlessone wrote:
| Now... any chances we could get a thing that takes in a React app
| and spits out a normal website with minimal or no JS?
| kvdveer wrote:
| How would you know it works if you can't add an imperial
| megaton of tracking scripts? /s
| urbandw311er wrote:
| Yes, it's called `tsc` ;-)
| jspiner wrote:
| Is this a desktop app wrapper for lovable?
| thedevilslawyer wrote:
| There's also bolt.diy which uses browserbased webcontainer to
| build apps.
| wahnfrieden wrote:
| That's not open though right. Webcontainer is closed
| vunderba wrote:
| Why does this reference Lovable _at all_? The tagline for this
| project is "Clone and recreate any website as a modern React app
| in seconds" and requires a FIRECRAWL_API_KEY in order to perform
| the necessary scraping.
|
| Lovable is more of a self-contained LLM chat which creates a
| _new_ react site with optional supabase integration.
| BenGosub wrote:
| Firecrawl is a highly dubious company. Their job ads for bot
| "agents" seemed like a try to get free labour.
| mosfets wrote:
| Reminds of me of tools like https://huu.la, the main difference
| is newer generations focuses on utilizing LLM to map design to
| code, versus the older generations focus on using WYSWYG tooling
| to edit the page directly.
| jacooper wrote:
| Why not use bolt? It's open source and is competitive with
| lovable and replit.
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