[HN Gopher] Open music foundation models for full-song generation
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       Open music foundation models for full-song generation
        
       Author : selvan
       Score  : 53 points
       Date   : 2025-08-04 10:46 UTC (3 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (map-yue.github.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (map-yue.github.io)
        
       | lotyrin wrote:
       | Very nice. Anyone know of projects that aren't tackling the full-
       | song problem but rather instrument parts/loops/stems/acapellas?
       | I'd like something that's more like "infinite AI
       | Loopcloud/Splice" most of these full-song models don't do well to
       | be asked for individual parts in my experience (though I will
       | have to try it with this one).
        
         | platers wrote:
         | https://suno.com/studio-waitlist Just a waitlist so far, but
         | looks like this is the direction suno is going
        
           | lotyrin wrote:
           | Yeah... I hope this is what their plan is with that, but I'm
           | not entirely certain.
        
         | rwmj wrote:
         | Also live AI dueting would be interesting, like having a
         | virtual guitarist you could jam/duet with.
        
           | lotyrin wrote:
           | Yeah. Or like, a loop that plays continuously and has style
           | parameters exposed you can tweak with a controller like a
           | Midi Fighter Twister and get feedback from in real-time. Then
           | you could do something akin to DJ/live production by having
           | two of these going in sync with each other into a mixer.
           | (Tweak params of the cue track until you like it, transition
           | at a phrase point, repeat).
        
             | HxokcPwi wrote:
             | Like this? https://aistudio.google.com/apps/bundled/promptd
             | j?showPrevie...
        
           | HxokcPwi wrote:
           | Just saw this today:
           | https://x.com/jesseengel/status/1953496623696556478
        
         | HxokcPwi wrote:
         | Try https://magenta.withgoogle.com/infinite-crate
        
         | vunderba wrote:
         | This gets discussed a lot but unfortunately there's just not
         | much out there around this.
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         | The closest thing I've seen is virtual drummers in Logic X
         | which will follow along with the structure of your song and
         | generate a percussive accompaniment. It's no substitute for a
         | real drummer but it's serviceable.
        
       | ssalka wrote:
       | Something interesting... the first 10 seconds or so of the "Death
       | Growl" example[1] is basically copied _verbatim_ from  "Ov Fire
       | And The Void" by Behemoth.
       | 
       | More specifically, I think the part that seems copied is at 2:13
       | of the original[2], as it leads into a solo-ish bit which in the
       | AI version sounds similar still, but goes on to do its own thing:
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       | [1] https://map-yue.github.io/music/moon.death_metal.mp3
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       | [2] https://youtu.be/vAmnsKKrt9w?t=133
        
         | someothherguyy wrote:
         | > Additionally, our memorization-effect experiments in Section
         | 11 demonstrate that our design maintains creativity without
         | plagiarizing, even under strong training set conditioning.
         | 
         | https://arxiv.org/html/2503.08638v1#S11
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Does Shazam think it is the same?
        
         | vorgol wrote:
         | The youtube link is suddenly not available any more (at least
         | in the UK)
        
       | bangaladore wrote:
       | What is the use case for music generation models? I see usecases
       | for alot of the other foundation models like text, image, tts,
       | sst, but why do I want AI generated music?
        
         | FridgeSeal wrote:
         | Now you don't need to know how to make music! You're finally
         | free of all those pesky, elitist musicians gate-keeping
         | music!!!!1!
        
         | frank_nitti wrote:
         | I've mostly used them for laughs with my friends. Sometimes
         | generating "custom" songs with funny lyrics, but most fun so
         | far is editing lyrics of existing songs to say ridiculous
         | things for fun.
         | 
         | No real clue how someone would use them for a more serious
         | endeavor, only thing I could imagine would be to quickly
         | iterate/prototype with song structures on a fixed seed to
         | generate ideas for a real composition. Consider the case of an
         | indie game developer or film maker getting some placeholder
         | music to test the experience during early throwaway iterations.
        
         | libraryatnight wrote:
         | Generating crappy background music for reality TV?
        
       | scarecrowbob wrote:
       | yeah, but have yall made any progress in a model that can have
       | sex with my partner for me?
        
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