[HN Gopher] The Making of Dario Amodei
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The Making of Dario Amodei
Author : spenvo
Score : 31 points
Date : 2025-07-29 18:36 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| pamelafox wrote:
| I generally am impressed by Anthropic's focus on safety, but I
| was taken aback by this quote from Dario:
| https://bsky.app/profile/kylierobison.com/post/3lujbtfdzyk2e
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| "Unfortunately, I think 'no bad person should ever benefit from
| our success' is a pretty difficult principle to run a business
| on."
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| I agree, it is hard to run a business on that principle, but I
| also thought that if any AI company were to aspire to it, it
| would be Anthropic.
| landl0rd wrote:
| There are huge differences in principle and practice between
| "no bad person should benefit" and "we should minimze the
| number of bad people who benefit and the extent to which they
| benefit."
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| The former makes basically anything impossible and whatever you
| release will be an accession to the latter. I think the only
| way you can get to "no bad person" is to shut down. The latter
| means putting in some higher amount of work and continuing to
| look for ways to reduce the amount of bad enabled or created.
| pamelafox wrote:
| That's true, I am continually learning to temper my idealism,
| particularly when working in developer tools and education.
| derektank wrote:
| I don't understand why any business would endeavor to not
| benefit all people. Like, we should expect grocery stores to
| benefit bad people. We should expect payment processors to
| benefit bad people. We should expect clothing retailers to
| benefit bad people. The goal shouldn't be to prevent bad people
| from benefitting, the goal should be to prevent bad people from
| leveraging your business toward their malicious aims. Even the
| worst people have completely neutral or even benevolent
| objectives some of the time.
| andy99 wrote:
| > the goal should be to prevent bad people from leveraging
| your business toward their malicious aims
|
| The goal should be non-judgement. It's subjective what's
| "bad" in many cases, and so the best policy is to not pass
| any judgement, lest someone who comes along and thinks what
| you're doing is bad decides to prevent you from doing it.
|
| We already have (tautologically) laws against doing illegal
| stuff, we don't need some extra layer of corporate policing.
| wrsh07 wrote:
| The context of that quote was around finding funding from UAE
| / Saudi Arabia / etc
|
| If you run a clothing shop you don't need to take investment
| from bad people. Yes everyone gets to wear the clothes / use
| the ai model. But that wasn't what he was talking about (and
| in that same leaked memo was enthusiastic about giving more
| people access to Claude)
| apwell23 wrote:
| > has grown its annualized recurring revenue from $1.4 billion in
| March 2025 to $3 billion in May
|
| wonder if dario himself came with 'vibe limit and blame users
| later' strategy. Has to be one of slickest moves in business.
| bravesoul2 wrote:
| If you are exceptionally talented, work hard, born in the right
| place and on top of that extremely lucky (and perhaps unlucky
| with family tragedy). You can do this too! Hats off to him, and
| its an interesting story, but I could almost read Prince
| William's story for inspiration too.
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