[HN Gopher] High-performance RISC-V processors: UltraRISC UR-DP1...
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       High-performance RISC-V processors: UltraRISC UR-DP1000, Zhihe
       A210, SpacemIT K3
        
       Author : fork-bomber
       Score  : 88 points
       Date   : 2025-07-23 12:58 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | snvzz wrote:
       | Reminder: Haswell and Zen1 were around 8.1 specint2006/GHz.
       | 
       | These CPUs are above that.
        
         | brucehoult wrote:
         | So is P550 ... 8.65 is the claim I think. It doesn't have the
         | MHz though. My i7-4790K (which is still in the back room
         | somewhere) had a base of 4.0 GHz and could turbo to 4.2 or 4.4.
         | My Megrez is doing just 1.8 GHz.
        
           | snvzz wrote:
           | Main issue with P550 is no V. Huge handicap, can't easily
           | make up for that.
           | 
           | RVA23 requires V. These incoming CPUs are the real deal, a
           | perfectly usable performance level in the present day.
           | 
           | (unless they cache-starve them or some other such fuck up)
           | 
           | My 4790k was still my main PC until I recently (weeks) built
           | a new PC with 9800x3d, 96GB ECC, rx7900gre.
           | 
           | 4790k had 4 cores. If these new chips clock reasonably, say,
           | 3+ GHz, and have 8 or 16 cores, they'll easily generally
           | outdo this old -but very usable still- Intel chip.
        
             | sitkack wrote:
             | Everyone needs to be focusing on memory controllers. No one
             | has enough main memory bandwidth.
        
               | nubinetwork wrote:
               | I'm okay with ddr4 as long as you can still buy it.
        
         | camel-cdr wrote:
         | Reminder: The Cortex-A76 cores in the Pi5 are 9.9
         | SPECint2006/GHz, only the UR-CP1000 is above that, but that
         | doesn't support RVV.
         | 
         | The SpacemiT X100 is slightly below that, but has 256-bit RVV
         | and RVA23 support.
        
         | 6SixTy wrote:
         | No V instruction set is going to be a big handicap though, as
         | that's pretty much RISC-V's equivalent of AVX and missing those
         | instructions is going to suck big time.
        
           | snvzz wrote:
           | RVA23 compliant implies V.
           | 
           | Two of the three processors seem to be RVA23.
        
             | 6SixTy wrote:
             | Pretty much my issue is that the one that is the closest to
             | shipping is also the one missing V instructions. I am far
             | more skeptical over potential processors especially after
             | Horse Creek just vanished into thin air.
        
       | geerlingguy wrote:
       | High performance for RISC-V; still a ton of catchup especially in
       | efficiency (perf/W) to Intel/AMD and Arm.
       | 
       | At least we're getting close to Raspberry Pi level performance
       | now.
        
       | deivid wrote:
       | Can't wait for a faster risc-v SBC, waiting for rust builds on my
       | VisionFive 2 drives me crazy.
        
       | fidotron wrote:
       | The performance here is less interesting than the apparently
       | quasi imminent availability of real RVA23 devices. If/when that
       | occurs it will set a baseline and things should not warrant from
       | scratch rebuilds constantly for at least a while.
       | 
       | Anyone that believes semiconductor performance claims before
       | device availability is in for a rough time.
        
         | gchamonlive wrote:
         | You are right, but I think this is different than say
         | performance claims for the next generation by mainstream GPU or
         | CPU manufacturers.
         | 
         | This is a chicken and the egg problem. You need interest in the
         | architecture and belief in performance for device availability
         | to start to pop, after all who would invest a lot of money in
         | something they don't think will have a market, but you also
         | need device availability to support performance claims.
         | 
         | So I think for newer products, performance claims will have to
         | do.
        
       | bjoli wrote:
       | Milk brags about their "proprietary extension". I understand that
       | the vendors can do whatever they want, but that turns me off.
        
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