[HN Gopher] Ring reintroduces video sharing with police
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       Ring reintroduces video sharing with police
        
       Author : 01-_-
       Score  : 26 points
       Date   : 2025-07-18 19:14 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | mv4 wrote:
       | Ring is a privacy nightmare already. They previously settled with
       | the FTC [1], but that doesn't mean the problem is fundamentally
       | fixed.
       | 
       | [1] https://apnews.com/article/ring-doorbell-camera-
       | settlement-f...
        
         | andrewinardeer wrote:
         | > The resulting settlement required Ring to delete content that
         | was found to be unlawfully obtained, establish stronger
         | security protections and pay a hefty fine.
         | 
         | 5.6 million dollar fine is hardly hefty for Amazon.
        
       | cnst wrote:
       | I think a bigger issue is that AI is being used to censor footage
       | from the owners of the camera themselves. There's been stories
       | about gunshots being censored from the owners of the camera by
       | Ring.
       | 
       | Why would you pay for a security device, which would prevent you
       | from having access to your own security data in case of a
       | security incident?
       | 
       | Honestly, this is one of the many reasons I'd never get a Ring.
       | Quite frankly, I don't even understand why they're so popular
       | given that the hardware is quite subpar,
       | dependability/reliability is dismal, the subscriptions are
       | mandatory, and alternatives from all the other brands are so
       | plentiful. Even Blink, even though it's also owned by Amazon, has
       | a better rep and feature set (2-year battery life, local
       | recording, super small size compared to Ring, to name a few
       | features, although reportedly it still requires an internet
       | connection at all times).
        
         | ge96 wrote:
         | Maybe just being there deters people from trying.
         | 
         | Could get a fake one to mount on a door
        
         | bbatsell wrote:
         | > I think a bigger issue is that AI is being used to censor
         | footage from the owners of the camera themselves. There's been
         | stories about gunshots being censored from the owners of the
         | camera by Ring.
         | 
         | Can you provide sources for this? I just spent a few minutes
         | looking and couldn't find anything, but I'd be super interested
         | in learning more about it.
        
       | kelseyfrog wrote:
       | Once again, this is covered by that evergreen advice: Do Not Talk
       | to the Police.
       | 
       | This includes not just speech but data sharing. There the
       | downside of self-implication rarely justifies the benefit. You're
       | likely not an exception, and only a lawyer can answer that
       | question for your particular circumstances.
        
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