[HN Gopher] An open letter from educators who refuse the call to...
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       An open letter from educators who refuse the call to adopt GenAI in
       education
        
       Author : mathgenius
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2025-07-10 22:09 UTC (51 minutes ago)
        
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       | amelius wrote:
       | Makes sense. You also don't give calculators to students of
       | arithmetic.
        
         | luqtas wrote:
         | woah, calculators aren't burning energy and water on big
         | servers running technology that violates copyright and gives
         | money to capital oriented companies
        
           | multjoy wrote:
           | You can rely on the answer a calculator gives you. There's no
           | danger that it will simply be confidently wrong.
        
             | somanyphotons wrote:
             | Some calculators will confidently state incorrect answers
             | to questions like:
             | 
             | (10^15 + 7.2 - 10^15) * 100
        
             | sfpotter wrote:
             | A calculator uses some type of finite precision arithmetic
             | internally. If you run afoul of the limits of this
             | arithmetic system, it may very confidently give you a wrong
             | answer!
        
           | monero-xmr wrote:
           | Water? I didn't realize that when you use water it disappears
           | from the universe, or even from earth, or even from the local
           | ecosystem
        
         | DavidPiper wrote:
         | (Theses days) it's hard to know what you mean by this and
         | whether you're being sarcastic.
         | 
         | No you don't give arithmetic students calculators for their
         | exams, and you expect them to know how to do it without one.
         | 
         | Yes you probably give professionals who need to do arithmetic
         | calculators so they can do it faster and with less errors.
         | 
         | Giving calculators to people who don't know how, why and/or
         | when to use them will still get you bad results.
         | 
         | Giving calculators to someone who doesn't have any use for one
         | is at best a waste of money and at worst a huge waste of time
         | if the recipient becomes addicted to calculator games.
        
           | izacus wrote:
           | The person you're responding to has clearly used the word
           | "student". What on earth are you on about?
        
       | sfpotter wrote:
       | One of my favorite essays on a similar topic:
       | https://sites.math.washington.edu//~koblitz/mi.html
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       | Neal Koblitz's "The Case Against Computers in Math Education".
        
         | EMIRELADERO wrote:
         | Wow. Now there's a quote:
         | 
         | > "Youngsters who are immersed in this popular culture are
         | accustomed to large doses of passive, visual entertainment.
         | They tend to develop a short attention span, and expect
         | immediate gratification. They are usually ill equipped to study
         | mathematics, because they lack patience, self-discipline, the
         | ability to concentrate for long periods, and reading
         | comprehension and writing skills."
         | 
         | For context, the essay is from 1996. You could have told me
         | this is from the current year and I would have believed you.
        
           | ultrarunner wrote:
           | > You could have told me this is from the current year and I
           | would have believed you.
           | 
           | Agreed. It's a matter of degree, and I wonder what reaching
           | the eventual limit (if there is one) looks like.
        
             | bombcar wrote:
             | There's a platonic dialogue that has basically the same
             | sentiment.
        
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