[HN Gopher] The Era of Exploration
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       The Era of Exploration
        
       Author : jxmorris12
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2025-07-07 15:23 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | webdevver wrote:
       | speaking of exploration, has anyone ever thought about non-
       | cartesian displays? say, pixels that are arranged in a hexagonal
       | pattern. or pixels arranged in a radial pattern and addressed via
       | polar coordinates.
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       | what pattern are human color/light sensors arranged in? maybe we
       | should replicate that pattern? an organic arrangement discovered
       | via simulated annealing?
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       | all this bitmap x/y display stuff is very pre-AI-ish. old tech.
       | victorian era clockwork mechanism. built to make it easy to
       | reason about for humans, before the advent of neuron-soup. maybe
       | we can do better?
        
         | AlotOfReading wrote:
         | Yes, it's been well-explored and there's a number of clever
         | ways to convert them back to Cartesian coordinates because
         | those are much nicer to work with for humans.
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         | The very earliest color CRTs used triangular arrangements of
         | subpixels for each color, for example.
        
       | visarga wrote:
       | I like this approach. It's not that intelligence is in the brain
       | or the model, and it should not be a noun. It is a process, a
       | search process based on exploration and learning.
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       | Think of a river - the water carves the banks, the banks channel
       | the water. Which is the real river?
       | 
       | A model is like the river banks, it is not intelligent in itself.
       | Neither is activity by itself. Intelligence comes from their co-
       | constitutive relation.
       | 
       | You can see the structure+flow coupling in many places. The model
       | weights (banks) vs the training set (water). The contextual
       | tokens (banks) vs the mass of probability for the next token
       | (water). Agent environment (banks) vs agent activity (water).
       | 
       | The trick here is that neither is capable of explaining the
       | process, or more fundamental than the other. It is a recursive
       | process rewriting its own rules.
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       | And we know from Godel, Turing and Chaitin that recursive
       | processes exhibit incompleteness, undecidability and
       | incompressibility. There is no way to predict them from outside,
       | they can only be known only through unrolling, you have to be
       | inside, or you have to be it to know it.
        
         | chrisweekly wrote:
         | +1, Brilliant metaphor, thanks for your thought-provoking
         | comment!
        
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