[HN Gopher] Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say ...
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       Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They've Solved
       Mystery
        
       Author : littlexsparkee
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2025-07-05 19:00 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
        
       | littlexsparkee wrote:
       | Had to truncate the title to fit 80 char limit
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       | Pertains to Eastern Baltic cod, not all
        
         | mhb wrote:
         | Eastern Baltic Cod Shrinking for Decades; Scientists Have
         | Answer
        
         | Aardwolf wrote:
         | Scientists Find why Eastern Baltic Cod Shrank for Decades
         | 
         | Or, still fitting:
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         | Scientists Find Eastern Baltic Cod Shrank due to Overfishing
         | Affecting Genepool
        
           | chasil wrote:
           | Eastern Baltic Cod Shrank due to artificial selection
        
       | cratermoon wrote:
       | Spoiler: because overfishing altered their genes
        
         | delfinom wrote:
         | Overfishing didn't alter their genes. It altered the genepool.
        
           | 3eb7988a1663 wrote:
           | To be fair, that _is_ the subtitle,  "Eastern Baltic cod grow
           | to much smaller sizes than they did just 30 years ago,
           | because overfishing altered their genes, according to new
           | research"
        
       | mscavnicky wrote:
       | Regression?
        
       | macinjosh wrote:
       | Are there any 'old fashioned' cod in captivity or maybe stored
       | DNA samples? Maybe Collosal could splice the missing genes back
       | in and bring them back into the gene pool.
        
         | SoftTalker wrote:
         | If there is a survival advantage to larger cod (presumably
         | there is, or they would not have developed) and if fishing is
         | tightly regulated, they should return eventually.
        
           | gcanyon wrote:
           | Not necessarily -- the "large" genes could literally have
           | been extracted from the gene pool.
           | 
           | It's possible for them to mutate back into existence, but
           | that'sa lower-probability, _much_ longer proposition than if
           | the genes are still available and just selected against.
        
       | ryao wrote:
       | My take away from this is that letting the small fish go under
       | the premise that they are juveniles that will later grow to be
       | bigger lets the adult midgets go, ruining the gene pool. I wonder
       | if this finding will have any impact on conservation rules
       | against taking small fish when fishing.
        
         | thaumasiotes wrote:
         | > ruining the gene pool
         | 
         | In what sense? Is being bigger Platonically better than being
         | smaller?
        
           | thatguy0900 wrote:
           | It's better if you want to eat them lol
        
             | bluGill wrote:
             | Small fish generally taste better in my experience. Small
             | of course implies younger, so we let the biger ones go as
             | well as small ones - there is a too small to eat point.
        
       | thaumasiotes wrote:
       | The traditional approach to this problem is to harvest males and
       | let females go. You're not going to select them out of sexual
       | reproduction.
       | 
       | You will see males evolve to resemble females more closely,
       | though.
        
       | gouthamve wrote:
       | Related, this is an excellent book on Cod fishing and how it
       | helped humans and finally how overfishing has hurt the Cod
       | numbers: https://www.markkurlansky.com/books/cod-a-biography-of-
       | the-f...
       | 
       | It might sound like a boring topic, but it's one of the best
       | books I've read and something I recommend a lot.
        
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