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       Show HN: Jobs by Referral: Find jobs in your LinkedIn network
        
       I have some friends who were laid off and are on the job hunt. We
       were all quite surprised to learn that LinkedIn does not have a
       "view jobs only at companies where I have connections", so I built
       https://jobsbyreferral.com/  It's powered by
       https://rapidapi.com/letscrape-6bRBa3QguO5/api/jsearch, which is a
       little pricey, so I'm trying to decide whether to put more effort
       into the project (I'd have to charge _something_ to offset the
       costs).
        
       Author : nicksergeant
       Score  : 106 points
       Date   : 2025-07-01 12:47 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | gergely wrote:
       | But it is there: If you search for jobs and expose "All filters"
       | there is a filter called "In your network" which filters down
       | exactly to this.
        
         | nicksergeant wrote:
         | Really?! I still cannot find this in the mobile app or desktop
         | :lolsob:
        
           | kjkjadksj wrote:
           | Use the old search
        
             | citizenpaul wrote:
             | Whats the old search URL?
        
           | 98codes wrote:
           | It's there -- go to the jobs tab, answer the first time
           | questions if they come up, and when you get the job list,
           | click All Filters, and scroll the filter list down
           | (admittedly, pretty far down); there's an "In your network"
           | toggle.
        
             | nicksergeant wrote:
             | Ah, wild! Yes I see it now! That is really quite buried.
             | 
             | Edit: seems like this is only the "Classic Search", and
             | presumably may disappear once "AI search" is no longer
             | optional?
        
             | citizenpaul wrote:
             | I still can't find this. The job list is "infinite scroll"
             | for me so there is no bottom. I don't see the word filter
             | anywhere. Is there a URL?
        
               | iLoveOncall wrote:
               | You need to switch back to classic search to see those
               | filters (on mobile at least).
        
           | alright2565 wrote:
           | https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/collections/hiring-in-network
        
         | giancarlostoro wrote:
         | Do you pay for LinkedIn Premium or something?
        
           | zamadatix wrote:
           | I do not and the filter is available in the job search page
           | for me as well.
        
       | dijit wrote:
       | I really want the _inverse_ of this.
       | 
       | I even wrote a version of it, but like many side projects; I lost
       | motivation after leaving the original company I was working at
       | (where I was integrating with things).
       | 
       | I _really_ want a way of recommending people you 've worked with
       | previously; should they happen to apply to your current
       | workplace.
       | 
       | I've worked with some absolute _stars_ and would gladly work with
       | them again.
       | 
       | My original design (that I even got working) had two ways of
       | "recommending" people, essentially you had either: select people
       | from your linkedin network _or_ add an email address /phone
       | number and name you know them by.
       | 
       | Then after selecting a person you're asked how closely you worked
       | with them; becuase sometimes it's a nice person but you can't
       | speak to competence: sometimes, it's someone you were really in
       | the trenches with and they had your back.
       | 
       | I also design the opposite of this, where you would
       | "un"-recommend people, or essentially downflag their application.
       | 
       | The thing is, my system wasn't fully integrated in the the HR
       | management system, so it would add a comment if someone applied
       | with the correct details but recruiters didn't have access to the
       | database of recommended people- it also had an issue where
       | someone could impersonate someone else by pasting the same
       | linkedin link - though then they might need to know who might be
       | recommended.
       | 
       | Anyway, nothing foolproof, just making it easier for people with
       | a good reputation to be integrated into the company easier.
        
         | willsmith72 wrote:
         | i totally agree on the problem, ex-colleages can be one of the
         | best datasources for predicting the quality of a hire
         | 
         | but how is your solution better/different to a referral, other
         | than the un-recommendations? (which i like the idea of but am
         | weary of ethically)
        
           | dijit wrote:
           | Mostly due to it's automated nature.
           | 
           | I wouldn't go out of my way to tell our internal recruiters
           | about every person I might enjoy working with again;
           | additionally I don't necessarily think they'd care to chase
           | someone down - especially so if there's not a currently open
           | position.
           | 
           | I'm also normally not directly plugged in to HR's candidate
           | management system as an IC, unless someone is escalated; at
           | which point then I might give a referral.
           | 
           | The value of such a solution is that people can just quietly
           | plug away recommendations when they first join and forget
           | about them until that person happens to apply later on, at
           | which point their notice is not just noise.. it becomes a
           | signal on an emerging opportunity. One that might not have
           | otherwise been there.
           | 
           | Bonus; if recommendations are tagged with the user who made
           | them, HR could reach out for additional context on the
           | candidate.
        
         | whall6 wrote:
         | https://www.pedestal.work/
        
       | hackernewds wrote:
       | Perfect feature that LinkedIn should've developed themselves.
       | Thank you for this!
        
         | pmdr wrote:
         | LinkedIn doesn't want you working, 'cause working people don't
         | really have time to waste on LinkedIn (unless that's their
         | job). LinkedIn wants you on their app with a racing heartbeat
         | every time you get a notification that you hope will lead to
         | job.
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | Caveat: I know people that don't use LinkedIn, but will "keep a
       | profile" for reputational reasons.
        
         | radarsat1 wrote:
         | You mean you know.. most people?
        
         | Aurornis wrote:
         | Keeping a profile is how the majority of people use LinkedIn.
         | 
         | All of the timeline discussion stuff is a small minority of
         | their users. You can completely ignore it, as most do.
        
       | shados wrote:
       | It really shows how AI is going to change the entire industry.
       | 
       | Let's imagine tomorrow a Product Manager at LinkedIn wants to
       | introduce this as an official functionality? They're going to
       | have to run it by management or their pod (or find the PM in
       | charge of that area if its not them), finish existing project,
       | wait for resources to be ready, have legal/marketing/compliance
       | involved, get it developed, go through all the other red tape,
       | etc.
       | 
       | I don't know exactly how LinkedIn works internally, but I'm sure
       | some of this is accurate.
       | 
       | So maybe, MAYBE they'll have it in a couple of months? But
       | someone can build it in a few hours, even if they're not super
       | good at this stuff.
       | 
       | It changes everything about how we think about products and SaaS
       | software.
        
         | nicksergeant wrote:
         | This is exactly where I think we're heading as well. This
         | project took about 2 hours.
        
           | 98codes wrote:
           | Primarily because LinkedIn has to bother with complying with
           | their privacy policies and other T&Cs, and your site has none
           | of that.
           | 
           | Why should I take all of my data and give it to you, a rando
           | on the internet? Is it being stored? Will it be shared? Sold?
           | Maybe, as there's nothing that says you won't.
           | 
           | Looks neat, but strong pass because of the above.
        
             | nicksergeant wrote:
             | Those are totally fair points but what I agreed with here
             | was that people will create _personal_ software to solve a
             | particular itch for themselves, which is what I did here
             | for my friends. I just decided to throw it on HN as I have
             | some API credits remaining :)
        
             | shados wrote:
             | Correct. But you can build this thing on your own, for
             | yourself. LinkedIn didn't, and you don't trust this third
             | party. So if you had the problem its trying to solve, you
             | could just spend the 2-3 hours and build it for yourself,
             | even if you don't have all the necessary skills to do so.
             | 
             | That's the whole point.
        
         | thih9 wrote:
         | > But someone can build it in a few hours, even if they're not
         | super good at this stuff.
         | 
         | Note that the end result is not the same as what LinkedIn would
         | have built. Perhaps in some ways better and in some ways worse.
         | 
         | E.g. personally I am not comfortable bulk uploading personal
         | data of myself and my network to a third party server.
        
           | nicksergeant wrote:
           | Yep! I agree to the principle - I also would not trust a
           | random third-party app with my personal details. Though as
           | noted in my other comment, this app is mostly client-side
           | (including the CSV and ZIP extraction), except of course for
           | the JSearch calls to find jobs by company name, and the CSV
           | export if you choose to use that.
        
           | shados wrote:
           | Yup. But my point is you can build this yourself, FOR
           | yourself. So if you're not comfortable with using this one,
           | you can build one on your own that you can trust (because you
           | built it yourself).
           | 
           | Thats the whole point. In an AI world, you're no longer bound
           | by the limits of what 3rd parties do or don't do, plus or
           | minus some datasets (like in this case, the job postings).
        
         | deadbabe wrote:
         | It changes nothing, what you describe has always been the case
         | even before AI. There are things people can build in a weekend
         | that take weeks or even months at a larger company. Large
         | companies have a way of slowing everything down, for reasons
         | that have nothing to do with coding.
        
           | shados wrote:
           | Correct, but the amount of people who can do it has
           | drastically increased, and the amount of time it takes for
           | most people to build these things has drastically decreased.
        
             | deadbabe wrote:
             | It has not _drastically_ increased. One could even argue it
             | has _decreased_. Ultimately, the productivity gains will
             | perish to bureaucracy.
        
         | alexp2021 wrote:
         | Not sure it changes EVERYTHING as the issue of sales and
         | marketing still favours LinkedIn. Sales/Marketing is very
         | expensive and sometimes even difficult to predict. Building is
         | not everything.
        
           | shados wrote:
           | Right, the point Im trying to make is that if someone has a
           | requirement, they can build it on their own, for themselves,
           | at much lower cost (because they don't need sales and
           | marketing for themselves).
           | 
           | It was always possible (hire software devs to do it), but the
           | bar and cost is much, MUCH lower.
        
             | alexp2021 wrote:
             | Sure, no doubt about it.
        
       | Fuzzy1000 wrote:
       | The next best thing would be to have an overlay that allows you
       | to pinpoint where and how you made a connection
        
       | thih9 wrote:
       | What happens with the personal data that gets uploaded? Is the
       | payload stored or used for any other purposes? Is there a privacy
       | policy?
        
         | nicksergeant wrote:
         | Hi! I answered this in a few comments but:
         | 
         | The app performs its functions entirely client-side except for
         | the job search to JSearch, which only requires the company
         | name.
         | 
         | > What you choose to upload to JobsByReferral.com is entirely
         | up to you - you don't need to upload the entire ZIP. You can
         | upload the Connections.csv-formatted file after you review it.
         | You could also obfuscate person names if you'd like, before
         | uploading.
         | 
         | > We also do nothing with your data. You can verify the app
         | does not send your data to any backend endpoints _except_ for
         | company name (so that we can find jobs at that company).
         | 
         | Edit: we've added some privacy details here:
         | https://jobsbyreferral.com/privacy
        
       | toyg wrote:
       | The feature is interesting and I'm sure you're in good faith, but
       | you're effectively doing LinkedIn-scraping, just outsourced to
       | your users. Why not use the official API?
       | 
       | (The GDPR implications of this service are also significant.
       | Being in the US does not exempt you from observing that if any of
       | your records are from European users.)
        
         | nicksergeant wrote:
         | LinkedIn's API is pretty locked down to partners, which you
         | must apply for. There's also no documented API to retrieve
         | connections.
         | 
         | The approach we've taken here is that you upload data that
         | you're comfortable uploading. You don't have to upload your
         | entire LinkedIn ZIP archive -- you can just upload the
         | Connections.csv file (which you can review before you upload).
        
         | shados wrote:
         | Assuming they don't have an EU presence of some sort, EU law
         | doesn't apply to them.
         | 
         | Now if they want to open up shop in the EU, or use a payment
         | processor to charge money that has EU presence, things change.
        
           | toyg wrote:
           | _> Assuming they don 't have an EU presence of some sort, EU
           | law doesn't apply to them._
           | 
           | That's not correct. If they handle EU people's data, they are
           | responsible for it and can still be fined. Obviously this
           | cannot be enforced if they never visit and have no assets in
           | the EU.
        
             | shados wrote:
             | Its correct purely because of jurisdiction. EU laws don't
             | apply for people with no presence in the EU, unless there
             | was some kind of treaty where one country agrees to enforce
             | another's.
             | 
             | That's just how laws, any law, works. The EU can "fine" all
             | they want but it would be entirely symbolic.
             | 
             | That's like if US restaurants had to enforce EU food safety
             | laws when on US soil because a EU citizen is eating there.
             | 
             | Fortunatelly, unlike US laws, GDPR, by virtue of being EU
             | law, is actually readable by normal human beings, so its
             | fairly straightforward:
             | 
             | https://gdpr.eu/article-3-requirements-of-handling-
             | personal-...
        
               | toyg wrote:
               | Yes, and "the monitoring of their behaviour as far as
               | their behaviour takes place within the Union" absolutely
               | applies to examining activity of LinkedIn users from the
               | EU.
               | 
               | As for jurisdiction in general: the US routinely _jails_
               | people for activities that took place outside the US, as
               | soon as they set foot on US soil - occasionally even when
               | they don 't even do that (Kim Dotcom). European
               | convictions for civil matters will not result in an
               | arrest warrant, but can result in financial penalties and
               | confiscations applied to anything that has to go through
               | Europe in one way or the other.
               | 
               | The limits of enforcement, in the internet era, are
               | becoming mostly practical rather than theoretical. Which
               | is interesting and poses a number of new, unanswered
               | questions. Simply speaking, one cannot just wave away any
               | law simply because they don't live in this or that place
               | anymore.
        
               | shados wrote:
               | Yup, but Article 3 point 2.a has a fairly strict
               | definition, where for an entity outside of the US to be
               | considered as "offering service" to EU members requires
               | some kind of strict ties. The de facto examples is
               | offering a product by specifically mentioning payment in
               | Euro, or having presence on an domain with a top level
               | TLD of a member state. If there's no ties that shows the
               | offering is made to EU members, it doesn't apply.
               | 
               | Very very little tie is required (eg: just having one
               | employee in the EU in a 50,000 people org would do it
               | right there), but the law has been fairly consistently
               | interpreted as such.
               | 
               | I get where you're coming from, but this isn't a if or
               | but or theoretical. Its just how GDPR gets applied. I
               | probably confused things by trying to introduce poor
               | analogies, when the law itself is fairly clearly
               | interpreted a specific way.
        
         | nicksergeant wrote:
         | Answering your GDPR question: we use cookie-less analytics with
         | https://usefathom.com/ and we do not pass user data to the
         | backend endpoints, which you can verify by viewing the network
         | calls. When you upload the ZIP or CSV the extraction/parsing
         | happens entirely client-side, and then we use auto-generated
         | IDs to map connection data from the JSearch API response to the
         | client-side stored connection data.
        
           | toyg wrote:
           | That's good, you might want to write that somewhere - even
           | just to assuage people's worries in general.
        
             | nicksergeant wrote:
             | Yep, done at https://jobsbyreferral.com/privacy.
        
       | bsoles wrote:
       | I've read the instructions steps as:
       | 
       | 1. Download your entire LinkedIn data.
       | 
       | 2. Give us your entire LinkedIn data.
       | 
       | The "larger" data they are asking for includes "... connections,
       | verifications, contacts, account history, and information we
       | infer about you based on your profile and activity ..."
        
         | nicksergeant wrote:
         | We've added some privacy details here:
         | https://jobsbyreferral.com/privacy.
         | 
         | You absolutely do not need to upload all of your data. Just a
         | CSV in the format we need (which is now updated on the homepage
         | as well).
        
       | orliesaurus wrote:
       | Remember Blind? This is like Blind+++
        
       | b8 wrote:
       | There's sites where you can pay for referrals or ask for them for
       | free on Blind though. Most people accept randos on LinkedIn, so
       | unsure how many refer you. The only people who've referred me on
       | Linkedin are my previous co-workers.
        
         | AznHisoka wrote:
         | More people have done this over the years that some companies
         | have started ignoring them. Because they're just as much noise
         | as regular applicants
        
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