[HN Gopher] Tell HN: (dictionary|thesaurus).reference.com is now...
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       Tell HN: (dictionary|thesaurus).reference.com is now a spam site
        
       I use it all the time, so this must be recent.
        
       Author : akkartik
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2025-06-29 18:36 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
       | mdaniel wrote:
       | I'm just curious: does your local dictionary and thesaurus lack
       | some feature that those sites used to provide for you? Maybe I'm
       | just in a privileged position because the dictionary and
       | thesaurus Spotlight integration is so handy, and I'd bet that
       | Windows doesn't have nice things, or if they have them they're
       | now also enshittified
        
         | tgv wrote:
         | There's no such thing in a Windows installation as iOS and
         | macOS offer out of the box. There are apps, though, available
         | via the Microsoft Store. A free one, called Oxford Dictionary
         | and Thesaurus says this in its privacy policy:
         | 
         | III. Types of personal data collected
         | 
         | 3.1 While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with
         | certain Personal Data. The categories of Personal Data may
         | include, but are not limited to:
         | 
         | * First name and surname
         | 
         | * Country and country code
         | 
         | * Email address
         | 
         | * Phone number (if applicable)
         | 
         | * Habitual residence (if applicable)
         | 
         | * Google, Facebook, Huawei, Microsoft and/ or Apple credentials
         | and profile pictures (if applicable)
         | 
         | * Billing and payment data - credit or debit card number, bank
         | account information (if applicable) and information about
         | payments
         | 
         | So, yeah.
         | 
         | * Cookies and Usage Data - device type, device ID and/ or IP
         | address, crash logs data, diagnostic data, music files data and
         | other information as clarified below (if applicable)
         | 
         | * Communications and content, including audio, video, text
         | (typed, inked, dictated, or otherwise), in a message, email, or
         | chat (if applicable).
        
           | tacostakohashi wrote:
           | It's really depressing that such obvious, classical
           | applications for computers like replacing paper dictionaries,
           | phone directories, etc. basically can't exist because if they
           | did, they'd have to be enshittified into tools for
           | advertising or surveillance.
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | Gee you make it sound like Windows and macOS are the only games
         | in town :)
        
           | hackyhacky wrote:
           | Good point. There is also a VMS dictionary:
           | https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvms-dcl-dictionary-a-m/
        
       | dougb5 wrote:
       | I learned of this when users of my dictionary search site
       | (OneLook) started complaining. I'd been in contact with folks
       | from dictionary.com in their early days, and I've watched its
       | rise and fall with curiosity. If whoever owns reference.com now
       | is reading this, I'll buy it from you and I can promise to honor
       | its original mission as I have with OneLook -- make me an offer.
       | 
       | FYI dictionary.com and thesaurus.com are still available on their
       | original domains. I believe that, under prior ownership (IAC),
       | they consolidated the traffic of their properties under
       | reference.com in order to get higher audience numbers in ComScore
       | and hence better ad deals. It's baffling to me that they
       | (apparently) either let the domain expire or sold it to a
       | spammer. It's accrued brand equity since 2008 -- and no doubt a
       | lot of backlinks, for whatever that's worth now.
        
       | treetalker wrote:
       | In the last few years I've snatched inexpensive used copies of
       | the 1942 Webster's New International Dictionary (unabridged --
       | Nabokov's favorite) and the Compact OED (2nd ed.). Couldn't be
       | happier.
        
         | burnt-resistor wrote:
         | I once found an unabridged OED c. 1984 ed. on the side of the
         | road in Los Gatos CA with only the cover missing.
        
       | rjh29 wrote:
       | I recommend WordHippo ( https://www.wordhippo.com/ ) as a one-
       | stop shop for word stuff.
        
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