[HN Gopher] Lateralized sleeping positions in domestic cats
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       Lateralized sleeping positions in domestic cats
        
       Author : EvgeniyZh
       Score  : 77 points
       Date   : 2025-06-26 18:38 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | iandanforth wrote:
       | Am I crazy or are the cats pictured under the graph swapped? The
       | cat under the "leftward" bar is curled the right and the cat
       | under the "rightward" bar is curled to the left. Did they just
       | decide that egocentrism in directions doesn't apply to cats?
        
         | ohxh wrote:
         | They say "thus, on average, about two-thirds of cats preferred
         | to sleep on the left side of their body with their left
         | shoulder down", and their image for leftward lateral bias shows
         | this. So I guess leftward means "lying on their left side", not
         | "curling left".
         | 
         | But, they suggest this is because "Upon awakening, a leftward
         | sleeping position would provide a fast left visual field view
         | of objects", which seems suspect. When my cats sleep on their
         | left, it's their left eye that's obscured by their paw, and
         | their right eye that has a better field of view!
        
         | grumblepeet wrote:
         | I came here to say the same thing. I've seen this multiple
         | times today in several places and thought exactly that. Maybe
         | they should have said clockwise (starting at the head) or
         | counterclockwise?
        
           | jama211 wrote:
           | They defined the terms in the article, as leftward is lying
           | on their left side, left shoulder down.
        
             | grumblepeet wrote:
             | Ahh thanks. I see it in the article now. This why I'm not a
             | scientist!
        
         | apt-apt-apt-apt wrote:
         | They say 'leftward sleeping position would provide a fast left
         | visual field', while showing a cat sleeping on its left side,
         | with its right eye having the best view (left eye with a bad
         | view).
         | 
         | Clearly, there is a contradiction. What's mystifying is that
         | the authors seemingly spent lots of time on this exact
         | directionality concept, yet put this contradiction in.
        
           | bbzylstra wrote:
           | Not a biologist, but my understanding is that the temporal
           | part of the right eye (the part of the right eye closest to
           | the temple and furthest from the nose) is responsible for
           | processing the inner part of the left visual field, and is
           | directly connected to the right hemisphere (no cross-over
           | required).
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | As mentioned before, this study is clearly funded by Big Cat
           | to distract and confuse Big Mouse.
        
           | oskarkk wrote:
           | The way I understand it, they say that animals react better
           | to danger coming from the left side, because the left visual
           | field (of _both_ eyes) is processed by the right hemisphere,
           | which is dominant for threat processing and spatial
           | attention. So, for the cat sleeping on the left side the
           | danger will probably come from the left side of its visual
           | field, while for cat sleeping on the right side it would come
           | from the right side of the visual field. Therefore, sleeping
           | on the left side is better, because the cat will react faster
           | to something coming towards it.
           | 
           | Look at this picture to see how the image from both eyes is
           | processed:
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_system#/media/File:Huma.
           | ..
           | 
           | (this is for human visual system, but it's the same for a cat
           | I guess?)
           | 
           | The important thing is not the left/right eye, but the
           | left/right side of _both_ eyes.
        
       | wiredfool wrote:
       | I prefer chirality for cats, they sleep either clockwise,
       | counterclockwise, or possibly corkscrew.
        
       | Isamu wrote:
       | >To address this question, we analyzed 408 publicly available
       | YouTube videos featuring a single cat in a clearly visible
       | sleeping position while lying on one side, with an uninterrupted
       | sleep duration of at least 10 seconds and full-body visibility
       | from head to hind legs.
       | 
       | 408 videos, showing bias towards leftward pose. They claim to
       | have removed the mirrored videos from their samples.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | YouTube videos of sleeping cats could have a left-leaning bias!
         | 
         | I wonder how you'd structure a proper study on this. Probably
         | obtain a random selection of cat owners (slaves?) first.
        
       | Fluorescence wrote:
       | This matches my kitty.
       | 
       | I noticed her preference because if I lie on my left-hand side,
       | she is a very happy little spoon and uses my arm as a pillow.
       | 
       | If I lie on my right-hand side, kitty is confused. She will take
       | extra preparatory rotations hoping that one more turn will be
       | enough for the problematic situation to resolve. After some hard
       | stares, maybe an annoyed huff, she will reluctantly curl-up as a
       | face-to-face non-spoon.
        
         | pugworthy wrote:
         | My boy Henry will always choose my right side, tucking under my
         | arm and his head on my chest. Which is him in a "leftward"
         | position then.
         | 
         | He'll work out some kind of arrangement if I'm laying on my
         | left side and he can't lay on his left, but if I'm lying on my
         | back it's always to the right.
         | 
         | It makes you wonder about cat-person compatibility based on the
         | person's preference for how to lie down and the cat's
         | preference.
        
       | carabiner wrote:
       | Previously submitted:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44371307
        
       | jfengel wrote:
       | I should take some data. I've got enough cats to border crazy-
       | cat-lady territory. I had the impression that they sleep in
       | random positions -- basically, whatever shape they were in when
       | the urge to nap came upon them.
       | 
       | I'll keep an eye on them and see if they have a preference that
       | I'd missed. It won't be all that useful -- if nothing else, the
       | specific preferred sleeping places of my house could have more to
       | do with my layout than any underlying mechanism in the cat. But
       | I'd kinda like to know if there has been something staring me in
       | the face all this time and I just didn't put it together.
        
       | a_e_k wrote:
       | This is hilarious. While I work, one of my cats loves to share my
       | desk chair and sleep between me and the backrest (forcing me to
       | sit closer to the front edge). I've noticed she favors lying on
       | her left flank there, and she is, in fact, sleeping behind me
       | like this right now.
       | 
       | (Anecdotal, but +1.)
       | 
       | On the other hand, she's one of a bonded pair and I'll sometimes
       | see her and her sister sleeping curled next to each other with
       | more varied chirality. Maybe a trusted friend outweighs this
       | effect?
        
         | dhosek wrote:
         | That does fit with the hypothesis of the paper.
        
       | wbl wrote:
       | I feel this publication could have used many more figures
        
         | fyrn_ wrote:
         | I agree, obviously purely for the scientific value of the
         | sleeping cat pictures of course..
        
           | em-bee wrote:
           | i want the list of all 408 videos to verify the data and
           | reproduce the results.
        
             | bigiain wrote:
             | "Hello Ma'am, we're from the government. We're here for
             | your cat, the one in the YouTube video. We need it to
             | attempt to reproduce scientific research."
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Cleaned up url: https://www.cell.com/current-
       | biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)...
        
       | lemming wrote:
       | Wait till I tell my daughter that someone's job is watching cat
       | videos on the internet for science!
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | They literally got paid to watch cat videos on the Internet.
        
         | sonofhans wrote:
         | Yes, that feels like some sort of event horizon, doesn't it? If
         | you hook the humans up to a source of power it becomes self-
         | sustaining ... for the cats.
        
           | psunavy03 wrote:
           | Humans domesticated dogs, cattle, chickens, and scores of
           | other animals.
           | 
           | Cats domesticated humans.
        
       | DonHopkins wrote:
       | My cat Emacs's signature move is the unlaterilized sploot, and I
       | recently caught him sleeping on his back in an unlaterilized
       | upside-down sploot!
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splooting
       | 
       | My tuxedo cat Napoleon is much more dignified, presenting a
       | distinguished catloaf, while crossing his front paws with
       | aristocratic grace.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_and_the_Internet#Catloaf
        
         | dhosek wrote:
         | I'd not encountered that term before. I'd always called it
         | spatchcocking.
        
           | DonHopkins wrote:
           | Oh my! Do not google that if you're a vegetarian, but do if
           | you're a cat!
        
             | psunavy03 wrote:
             | Step 1: Learning to smoke meats.
             | 
             | Step 2 (Optional and not recommended): Become snooty about
             | how to prepare your poultry for being smoked.
        
       | mcculley wrote:
       | > we analyzed 408 publicly available YouTube videos
       | 
       | Does YouTube provide a way to search and download videos for such
       | research purposes? Or does one have to use some tool that works
       | around YouTube's mechanisms that prevent downloading?
        
         | sneak wrote:
         | yt-dlp easily downloads everything/anything from youtube.
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | Did they check if the outcome is different on the southern
       | hemisphere?
        
       | thealistra wrote:
       | The author declared no competing interests, but I bet they are a
       | certified cat lover and therefore biased
        
         | iainmerrick wrote:
         | They're secretly funded by Big Cat.
        
       | comrade1234 wrote:
       | Wow. Is this really a Cell article? Congrats to the authors.
       | 
       | Publishing in cell gets you a tenure track.
        
         | dog436zkj3p7 wrote:
         | No, it's a Current Biology article, a good journal from the
         | Cell Press family of journals, but not quite Cell.
        
       | comrade1234 wrote:
       | I think this is the opposite for lions? I'm only going by the
       | fact that the Buddha is shown sleeping on his right side all of
       | the time and that this is called the lion pose (not the same as
       | the yoga lion pose). He slept on his right side in the same way
       | male lions sleep on their right side.
       | 
       | (I first learned this because I was researching why when I
       | meditated on my right side I would sometimes have hallucinogenic
       | visions, but not on my left side - it was a surprise to come
       | across this fact about the Buddha)
        
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