[HN Gopher] I built an ADHD app with interactive coping tools, n...
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       I built an ADHD app with interactive coping tools, noise mixer and
       self-test
        
       Author : digitalions
       Score  : 88 points
       Date   : 2025-06-26 14:05 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.adhdhelp.app)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.adhdhelp.app)
        
       | digitalions wrote:
       | Hi HN! I've built ADHD Help, a simple yet powerful web app
       | designed to help manage common ADHD-related states like anxiety,
       | procrastination, irritability, overwhelm, hyperactivity, and
       | distraction.
       | 
       | The app offers:
       | 
       | Interactive Coping Techniques: Immediate guided steps for calming
       | anxiety, managing procrastination, and handling emotional
       | overwhelm using CBT, DBT, and mindfulness methods.
       | 
       | Ambient Sound Mixer: Customize and layer soothing background
       | noises (nature, white noise, cafe sounds) to enhance focus or
       | relaxation.
       | 
       | Quick ADHD Self-Test: A quick screening to help identify ADHD
       | symptoms.
       | 
       | Curated Blog: Practical articles, personal insights, and
       | evidence-based advice on living better with ADHD.
       | 
       | Would love your feedback and thoughts!
       | 
       | Check it out here: https://adhdhelp.app
        
       | Communitivity wrote:
       | Great idea, and I'm looking forward to trying this out!
       | 
       | Each person with ADHD is affected a little differently, based on
       | anecdotal evidence from family and friends. What are the
       | available customization options?
        
         | digitalions wrote:
         | Thank you! For now, there are customization options only for
         | background sounds. But in the future there will be an
         | intelligent system for selecting self-help techniques. And you
         | can take a short test to find out your current state.
        
       | OccamsMirror wrote:
       | You know, a lot of ADHD will be reading this at night.
       | 
       | Why no dark mode?
        
         | shironandonon_ wrote:
         | have you tried Dark Mode in a browser like Brave?
         | 
         | I use that on mobile so the referenced website, HN, and 99.9%
         | of the web is in dark mode by default.
        
           | WarOnPrivacy wrote:
           | > Dark Mode in a browser like Brave ... and 99.9% of the web
           | is in dark mode by default.
           | 
           | I turned on Appearance -> Brave Colors = Dark. That darkened
           | the browser components but not web pages, inc HN.
        
       | drakythe wrote:
       | Immediate thoughts:
       | 
       | - Neat.
       | 
       | - Those images on the blogs look potentially AI Generated, which
       | I'm personally turned off by. Others may vary.
       | 
       | - The first blog (by you?) is _very_ long, also "ADHD as
       | Superpower" is somewhat of a trope that I, and others I've spoken
       | with, aren't happy to have as a bullet point of why ADHD isn't
       | the end of the world.
       | 
       | - Anyway, clicked on the "Procrastination" mood button and oh
       | sweet lord there are so many buttons on this page and why do they
       | have "likes" counted in the corner?
       | 
       | - The web developer in me admires the automatic resizing blocks.
       | The user in me doesn't like that the buttons jump around as I
       | click on them. E.g. I clicked on "breath loop" and the interface
       | totally changed an I wasn't actually sure how to get back to
       | where I was (Figured it out: Musical Stimulation), additionally I
       | know there _was_ a button below breath loop but its moved and I
       | forgot which one it was. I'd suggest categorizing the buttons and
       | either hiding them in drawers or collapsible sections so there
       | aren't quite so many immediately visible. And then I'd suggest
       | keeping the controls for each technique in the same place on the
       | screen and just highlight which technique is selected from the
       | buttons, instead of dynamically moving the controls around. On
       | any user interface I interact with regularly I don't even see or
       | read them much anymore because I just know where the buttons I
       | want to interact with are. On this page the buttons are
       | constantly moving around, and I'm only on desktop, I'm sure its
       | different on a phone but I'm almost scared to look (I looked, its
       | good, but the constantly changing height of the scrollbar is a
       | pet peeve of mine, so its functional, I just don't like it). If
       | you don't want to move the controls to a consistent spot, I'd
       | suggest giving the movement a bit of an animation (maybe with an
       | option to disable it?) so people can at least get a feel for what
       | is happening when they click a button instead of an instantaneous
       | change that is impossible to track with their eyeballs.
       | 
       | - I don't love the "Atmosphere" button being in the bottom middle
       | where text/images appear from the content, feels messy.
        
         | jaysonelliot wrote:
         | The AI generated images were an immediate turn-off to me as
         | well. Whatever one thinks of the aesthetics, they're a huge
         | signal that I'm looking at a product that's focused on
         | monetizing me.
         | 
         | The overall design is unfocused and cluttered, just the exact
         | thing I don't need as someone with ADHD.
         | 
         | I don't think I'd use this.
        
           | nerdjon wrote:
           | Not only that, but it would also raise significant concerns
           | about how any of the recommendations, treatments, blog posts,
           | etc are made. Like are the different people for those blog
           | posts real people?
           | 
           | This is particularly concerning for a tool like this, you
           | already took shortcuts on images why should we expect
           | anything less for the rest of the app? Has anyone that knows
           | anything about ADHD actually ever looked at anything this app
           | is saying?
        
             | digitalions wrote:
             | The blog is written by real people. So do the techniques.
             | I'm just a bad designer so I decided to generate the
             | pictures. But actually I have diagnosed ADHD myself and all
             | the techniques are all I've collected all my life.
        
               | drakythe wrote:
               | Be that as it may, it _does_ still raise questions about
               | the content and sources. If you're a bad designer (I'm a
               | pretty terrible artist/designer myself) then I urge you
               | to source your images from someplace ethical. Try
               | unsplash, or google free stock images, or go on fiverr
               | and pay an artist who won't use AI (if you can find one?
               | I haven't tried to user fiverr in a while)
        
               | digitalions wrote:
               | Thank you. I didn't even know people were so negative
               | about AI pictures.
        
               | brulard wrote:
               | Not all people. HN crowd specifically
        
               | bubblemoth wrote:
               | I opened the first blog post and I'm fairly certain most
               | of this post is generated by AI.
               | 
               | I'm not trying to be mean, but it makes it difficult to
               | trust any content on this site.
        
               | 56544562 wrote:
               | It makes it impossible. The content gives off the feeling
               | that it will "take" and grab more than it will "give" and
               | release.
               | 
               | ADHD, to me, always, even before the diagnosis, felt like
               | a valve that doesn't open for no reason and due to the
               | build up pressure, some other valve with different
               | "filters" releases whatever mixture of thoughts and
               | actions to compensate.
               | 
               | Children's sugar-induced behavioral roller coasters have
               | a similar characteristic. And this website looks like too
               | much candy without there being any candy.
        
               | taco_emoji wrote:
               | > The blog is written by real people
               | 
               | Sorry, I don't believe you. The way that the initial post
               | has identical paragraph lengths with headers on every one
               | is extremely uncanny. The prose is very dry, repetitive,
               | often written in passive voice, and completely lacking in
               | personality.
        
             | brulard wrote:
             | What? He should have paid an illustrator on top of doing
             | everything else? I actually prefer AI art to be used,
             | because more of the resources likely went to the essence of
             | the product.
        
         | digitalions wrote:
         | Thanks for the feedback. I'm a bad UI designer. But I've
         | already found one and will make the UI better soon!
        
         | npteljes wrote:
         | One of the file name is "1750927062274_ChatGPT Image Jun 26,
         | 2025, 11_33_18 AM (1)" - so yes, +1 for AI.
        
           | digitalions wrote:
           | I'm just a bad designer so I decided to generate the images.
           | :)
        
             | npteljes wrote:
             | I don't blame you for it, as it's cheap, fast, and fits the
             | context better than what can be provided usually. If you
             | find that people are turned off by it, and want to act on
             | it, I suggest stock images from places like Pixabay. They
             | are royalty free so it's not much of a pain to use them,
             | and there is a lot of good ones on the site as well.
             | Downside is that they will probably be disjointed, like,
             | every image will be its own style, which detracts from the
             | unity of your website, but the upside is that you get rid
             | of the negative associations with AI. Random idea, but you
             | can use classical art as well, as they are all in public
             | domain now. Then you could have the cohesion back: art, and
             | humanity, which would fit the content well on a meta-level
             | too.
        
         | jedimastert wrote:
         | I concur on the AI generated images. There is frankly
         | significant overlap between folks who struggle with ADHD and
         | folks who are direct harmed or displaced by the use of AI
         | generated images, I think you would be better off without
         | images at all.
        
           | dlivingston wrote:
           | > There is frankly significant overlap between folks who
           | struggle with ADHD and folks who are direct harmed or
           | displaced by the use of AI generated images
           | 
           | Can you expand on this? I don't see the connection.
        
         | rockemsockem wrote:
         | To add some variety, I think the images look fine.
         | 
         | Idk wtf is wrong with these people whining about AI generated
         | images.
        
           | npteljes wrote:
           | OP not a publicly established personality, and the website is
           | new too. So, they have a lot to prove, credibility chief
           | among them, especially since the topic is mental health.
           | Users discovering that some of the things are AI generated
           | leads to a thought that maybe more, subtler things are AI
           | generated as well - like the texts on the website. AI output
           | is currently distrusted, and the companies' treatment of the
           | authors of their training material is frequently questioned.
           | So, this way, discovering AI content erodes trust, of which
           | the author didn't have any to begin with - because they are
           | just starting out!
           | 
           | So that is why AI is a deal. Looks-wise they are good, and
           | they fit their context very well. But they do communicate
           | much more than that, and that makes them iffy for many.
        
       | b0a04gl wrote:
       | ui feels too stateful per interaction, every click shifts layout,
       | adds/remove elements, resets focus. that's expensive for working
       | memory esp if im mid-task. layout stability might need to be
       | treated like a cognitive affordance, otherwise good going smooth
        
       | captchas wrote:
       | I would like app developers to please stop trying to monetize
       | ADHD. This one doesn't seem as predatory and snake oil as most of
       | the others, but, kindly refrain. Our neurodevelopmental condition
       | is not your cash cow.
        
         | mh- wrote:
         | As someone in their 40s with ADHD, I'll offer a counterpoint.
         | 
         | I'm happy for people to try to make a business of this if the
         | tools are helpful.
         | 
         | I've had a successful career, so I obviously had to develop my
         | own strategies for managing it. But I'd be very happy if my
         | kids didn't have to spend 20 years figuring it out for
         | themselves. Monetize away.
        
           | al_borland wrote:
           | Strategies can be shared for free as well.
           | 
           | Ryder Carroll is a good example. He created the bullet
           | journal through trial and error to manage his own ADHD. He
           | shared it for free. While he did write a book and partnered
           | with a company to design a notebook (due to popular demand),
           | he still gives away everything someone needs for free, and
           | will be the first one to tell people you don't need a special
           | notebook.
        
           | impendia wrote:
           | Personally, I fall somewhere in the middle. I'd be happy to
           | pay a modest bit of money to _buy_ a simple app, and see if
           | it helps -- but I 'm very reluctant to sign up for a
           | subscription.
           | 
           | Perhaps ironically, the _less_ the app claims to do, the more
           | likely I am to be interested.
           | 
           | I've only signed up for a paid mental health app subscription
           | once -- and that was an app designed by a well-known
           | psychologist with both an M.D. and a Ph.D., and even then
           | only after reading his book.
        
             | mystified5016 wrote:
             | Yes, exactly. A one-time purchase is great because ADHDers
             | can impulse buy it and be done. A subscription is an extra
             | mental burden I don't want or need.
        
         | npteljes wrote:
         | Would you like to elaborate why you feel this way?
        
         | digitalions wrote:
         | I have ADHD myself. Honestly, I'd like to make a service that
         | will help everyone. To do that, I need money. I think that 5
         | dollars a month is not so much nowadays.
        
           | spinlock_ wrote:
           | But why would it need to be subscription based?
        
             | rockemsockem wrote:
             | Presumably the person is doing work on it on an ongoing
             | basis..... This isn't that hard to figure out
        
         | parpfish wrote:
         | i'm less worried about people monetizing it than I am about
         | people pushing a lot of bad self-diagnosis memes based on
         | nonsense criteria ("if you sleep with your arms in this pose,
         | you have ADHD (and maybe autism)!") or just describing
         | completely typical events as a meaningful symptom ("if you ever
         | procrastinate, you might have ADHD")
        
         | theonething wrote:
         | I don't understand this sentiment.
         | 
         | Sure, there might be people out there selling snakeoil, but
         | that's the case for every domain. Does that mean we nobody
         | should try to make apps to solve domain problems at all? Of
         | course not.
         | 
         | So you're asking everyone to stop monetizing ADHD. So the two
         | alternatives are make the apps for free or don't make them at
         | all. The former is not realistic or sustainable and later gives
         | up potential upside.
         | 
         | I mean, do you think all ADHD apps will just be bad and are
         | just people trying rip off ADHDers?
         | 
         | I think a more reasonable premise is yes, just in every domain,
         | there will be snake oil sellers unfortunately and it's up to
         | the consumer to watch out for those. But there will also be
         | genuine people who are trying to solve this problem and that
         | will potentially give people a lot of value for the money they
         | pay for it.
        
       | annoyingnoob wrote:
       | I used it as a distraction from something I need to accomplish.
        
       | nsxwolf wrote:
       | Is the self test for people who know they have ADHD? Because
       | there was no option for what I'm currently feeling.
        
         | digitalions wrote:
         | I have ADHD myself. I do a lot of my service based on my
         | experience and the experience of others with ADHD.
        
         | drdaeman wrote:
         | Aren't those kind of tests... how I'd put it politely?... less
         | than meaningful?
         | 
         | First of all, it's not really well done: there are no control
         | questions, no inverted questions, no consistency checks (like
         | re-phrased duplicate questions) or anything a well-designed
         | self-test must have. All answers are obviously ranked,
         | introducing perception biases. Questions like "how often do you
         | interrupt someone" or "how often you were told" or "did parents
         | notice" are highly culturally-dependent. The childhood
         | questions do not discern between younger and older ages (where
         | behavioral differences are drastic), and likely to introduce a
         | skew based on one's age and long-term memory function (which,
         | AFAIK, ADHD does not directly affect). To me it looks like
         | nothing of value would be lost if the whole test would be
         | replaced with a short description what ADHD is and then a
         | single yes/no question "do you think you may have some of the
         | described symptoms?"
         | 
         | I would understand something like ANT, which (as I understand
         | it) tests way closer to actual brain behavior, than those
         | distant derivatives smeared over social prisms, self-perception
         | lenses, and dice rolls of life's [pseudo-]randomness.
        
       | MichealCodes wrote:
       | Awesome tool, thanks for caring about the well-being of others!
        
         | digitalions wrote:
         | Thank you!
        
       | RankingMember wrote:
       | I concur with the other comments about AI-generated content, so
       | let me hit you with some positive:
       | 
       | I like the idea, and I like that the website gets right down to
       | business with the "How are you feeling?" at the very top. It
       | reminds me a bit of https://youfeellikeshit.com/ (which I mean as
       | a good thing). You might actually want to crib a little bit of
       | that site's minimalism. I also like that you're not asking for
       | the user to signup right off the bat.
        
         | digitalions wrote:
         | Thank you. I didn't even realize so many people wouldn't like
         | these pictures. I think they really fit the articles.
        
           | RankingMember wrote:
           | It's not that they don't fit, it's that AI-generated images
           | are commonly used on spam/scam sites, and thus have that
           | inauthentic/low-effort stink to them. It casts a shadow on
           | the rest of site that says "is any of this authentic or am I
           | reading AI slop?". You might do better to have someone do
           | some scribbles for you on fiverr.com imo.
        
           | rockemsockem wrote:
           | Personally I think these people are over-vocal, insane, and
           | unlikely to pay you in the first place.
           | 
           | I see no problem with AI generated pictures, but there's a
           | really loud minority who find them ethnically untenable
        
       | largehotcoffee wrote:
       | Spend one minute "embracing imperfection"...
        
       | justsomehnguy wrote:
       | > I built an ADHD app with interactive coping tools, noise mixer
       | and self-test
       | 
       | Remeber kids! Self-medication with the Voight-Kampff test is
       | dangerous and can lead to the serious consequences including ,
       | but not limited to:
       | 
       | depression personality disorders suicide thoughts obsession with
       | a wooden minutae giant meta-corporations hunting for you overall
       | quality of life decrease, including death
       | 
       | Please consult a doctor before using the test!
       | 
       | (somehow the last words of the post title gave me this reaction)
        
       | tsavo wrote:
       | A repost from three months ago to re-ignite engagement.
        
         | zargon wrote:
         | It didn't get any attention last time. I give them a pass for
         | trying again.
        
       | thrashh wrote:
       | I don't have ADHD but I did the test. My answers would vary with
       | amount of sleep:
       | 
       | 4 hours/night - Poor executive function, can't figure out what
       | order to do things in, lose keys and random things, forget to
       | lock doors and not even realize it
       | 
       | 6 hours - Mild executive dysfunction, never sure if I locked the
       | door but I did
       | 
       | 8 hours - Zero problems
       | 
       | 10 hours - I've never actually experimented
        
       | ThinkBeat wrote:
       | Selling supplements to vulnerable people seems scummy to me.
        
       | phren0logy wrote:
       | I'm a psychiatrist, so I obviously have a bias, but I have been
       | pretty alarmed by the caviler attitude to the diagnosis and
       | treatment of ADHD and Autism-spectrum disorders.
       | 
       | This is not specifically directed at this product launch, rather
       | a general observation, but we have evidence based instruments to
       | aid in diagnosis (that still requires a contextual clinical
       | interpretation!) and evidence about what works and what doesn't.
       | Most of the stuff I see is pretty squarely an evidence-free
       | affair. Wether it's a cash grab or a well-intentioned effort,
       | both can be harmful.
       | 
       | Marketing interventions to a specific diagnosis with known
       | treatments should not be taken lightly. Non-medical interventions
       | can be effective, and therefore they can be harmful.
        
         | Apocryphon wrote:
         | What are your thoughts on the QbTest? Is it rigorous or is it
         | incomplete for diagnosing ADHD?
        
           | phren0logy wrote:
           | I was not familiar with it until now. At a quick glance, it
           | looks like it has some overlap with the CPT. But generally
           | speaking, this is going to give a snapshot in time in one
           | setting, which is helpful, but just one part of the picture.
           | As the makers of the test note, it still requires a clinical
           | interview and rating scales to arrive at a diagnosis:
           | 
           | > Should QbTest be used with other measures?
           | 
           | > It is not meant to be a standalone tool for diagnosing
           | ADHD. Instead, it has been designed to be added to the
           | assessment process along with a clinical interview and rating
           | scales.
        
         | cameronbedard wrote:
         | What do you think of what the app is trying to accomplish? I
         | see it as a attempt at self intervention or helping someone get
         | started.
         | 
         | You mentioned evidence about what works and what doesn't. As
         | someone who struggled with ADHD, I am curious about your
         | thoughts on the app intentions or goals.
        
         | jamestimmins wrote:
         | Curious about your thoughts on homebuilt AI tools for dealing
         | with ADHD side effects. I've identified a handful of habits I
         | struggle with but want to do, and thought processes that can be
         | challenging. I've planned to plug these into an LLM to have it
         | do midday checkins about how I'm feeling and then respond in
         | line with what I want to focus on.
         | 
         | Never occurred to me that something focused on symptoms instead
         | of treatment could be harmful, but I suppose it's worth
         | considering.
        
           | phren0logy wrote:
           | I don't know your tools, but if you aren't recommending them
           | to others for money, then we're already in a different
           | category.
           | 
           | But succinctly, if something can help you form habits, it can
           | probably help you form bad habits.
        
           | lawlessone wrote:
           | bear with me for the tangent. And don't take what i say here
           | as a reason you shouldn't try tools or try to build your own
           | tools.
           | 
           | I used to try the Pomodoro technique it worked fantastic
           | ...briefly.
           | 
           | Once the novelty wore off I stopped using it. It turned into
           | an extra task I needed to do in order to do other tasks.
           | 
           | AI would probably follow the same trajectory for me unless
           | you make it impossible to turn off.
        
         | pjfin123 wrote:
         | How is $5/mo a cash grab? Psychiatrists charge more
        
           | rimunroe wrote:
           | Something can be a cash grab even if it's cheap if it doesn't
           | do something effectively or is just trying to take advantage
           | of people in need
        
           | lawlessone wrote:
           | scaling.
        
           | lawlessone wrote:
           | scaling.
           | 
           | Psychiatrist charges one person more. But if you can charge a
           | million people $5 dollars you'll make a lot more.
        
         | vaindil wrote:
         | I both agree and disagree with you. I think neurodivergence has
         | become a bit "trendy" lately, and some people have latched onto
         | these labels when they may not be clinically appropriate.
         | However, these evidence-based diagnostic tools aren't perfect.
         | 
         | My sister was properly diagnosed with ADHD several years ago,
         | and she encouraged me to get tested. My tester, a PhD
         | psychologist who specialized in neuropsych testing, said the
         | evidence was borderline, but ultimately refused to give a
         | diagnosis because I did well in high school and that's unheard
         | of in "true" ADHD. I promise I'm not exaggerating--I have the
         | report to prove it. He completely ignored that I never had to
         | pay attention in school because it was so easy for me, and I
         | only started to run into problems in college when the material
         | got more difficult.
         | 
         | Thankfully my psychiatrist disagreed with that and started me
         | on medication anyway, and since then I've actually been able to
         | understand why I am the way I am and work through my issues. (I
         | found out a year later that my parents actually had me tested
         | in first grade and I was diagnosed then, but they intentionally
         | kept it from me my whole life.)
         | 
         | I know this is just one anecdote, but it's a common discussion
         | point online that mental healthcare like this isn't always the
         | most accessible. I think well-intentioned research and self-
         | diagnosis can certainly have their place, depending on one's
         | circumstances, and as long as care is taken to avoid
         | unscientific information.
        
           | keeganpoppen wrote:
           | i had a very similar experience as well... who knew that you
           | can't have ADHD if you do well in school, even if school
           | (even college) was easy enough to not ever need to dig deep
           | in the way that you have to do every day in real life (if
           | you're ambitious, anyway).
        
             | hirvi74 wrote:
             | I constantly read people that have experiences like this,
             | then on the other hand, I know countless people that lied
             | about having ADHD and received treatment with virtually no
             | issues at all.
             | 
             | I do not advocate for drug-seeking behaviors, but I find it
             | wild how there are such contrasting diagnostic experiences.
             | 
             | I wonder if professionals would be less adverse to
             | treatment administration if patients were more willing to
             | trial non-stimulants first?
        
           | brulard wrote:
           | Same here. No ADHD if you are not failing miserably in
           | school, work, etc. Doesn't matter that you struggle every
           | meeting understanding what's going on as you have trouble
           | listening to one sentence from beginning to the end.
        
             | fwsgonzo wrote:
             | Same for me, except I'm nearing 40. All my brothers have it
             | to various degrees, and since I have a job and doing OK, I
             | cannot be helped. It's extremely annoying that access to
             | medicine is gated by the personal opinions of professionals
             | (and that the medicine is jail-worthy to begin with).
             | Specifically, I was denied because too old, in writing.
        
           | ndndndnd wrote:
           | they once told me "if you had ADHD the assessment paper you
           | filled out at home would have come back all crumpled up and
           | dirty"
        
         | ndndndnd wrote:
         | In my (anecdotal but decades long) experience, psych folks tend
         | to be overconfident in their methods and tools and evidence. As
         | if studies provide ironclad proof that your way is the best and
         | only way to go. That hasn't been my experience at all and it's
         | pretty easy to find a crapton of neurodivergent folks that
         | would agree.
         | 
         | I am biased too but I have endured a lot of anguish putting my
         | faith in psych professionals. The vast majority of progress
         | I've made over the years has come via discussions with other
         | folks like me. But you claim it's unsafe? It's been more
         | effective (and safer) to find my own way.
        
         | lawlessone wrote:
         | I don't know what to think about it anymore myself. it does
         | seem like a trend.
         | 
         | But at the same time as someone diagnosed in my 30's that meds
         | really helped. i'd feel like i'm pulling up the ladder on
         | others.
         | 
         | The neurodiversity at work trend does irk me a little,
         | especially when people start talking about so called
         | "superpowers" and their benefits to the company.
        
           | hirvi74 wrote:
           | > _start talking about so called "superpowers"_
           | 
           | I cannot stand people like that.
           | 
           | I am not trying to be all 'woe is me', but ADHD has had non-
           | stop negative impacts on my life from childhood through
           | present time. I am in my 30s too (diagnosed in early 20s and
           | treated since), and I've basically just given up on life.
        
         | thisislife2 wrote:
         | Thank you for sharing this. I have often been very cynical
         | here, and elsewhere online, about ADHD, especially amongst
         | adults. Most of the cynicism stems from the capitalistic nature
         | of modern pharmaceutical companies - it literally seems like
         | they are trying to create a market for their "ADHD" drugs
         | through online social marketing - _" You can't concentrate on a
         | task? Must be ADHD."_, _" You don't feel like doing something
         | productive? Oh, that's ADHD for sure"_, _" Do you frequently
         | procrastinate and feel guilty about? Yup, that's ADHD"_ and so
         | on ...
         | 
         | The issue I have with "ADHD" in general is that there are so
         | many other well-recognized and researched causes that more
         | satisfactorily explain many of these behavioural issues - like
         | depression and / or anxiety - than "ADHD". There are even
         | personality disorders that can cause such long-term behavioural
         | issues - for e.g., Avoidant Personality Disorder or even
         | Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (both stemming from
         | anxiety issues), and they can be more correctly and confidently
         | diagnosed than the cluster** that is "ADHD" (whose diagnostic
         | criteria has been already revised multiple times in the
         | Diagnostic and Statistical Manual).
         | 
         | Alan Schwarz, the author of the book ADHD Nation has
         | investigated the ties between pharmaceutical companies and
         | doctors:
         | 
         | > "The six-question screening instrument that was endorsed by
         | the World Health Organization was devised by doctors with a
         | very long history in ADHD research," he says. "These are,
         | generally, men who have been enriched by the pharmaceutical
         | industry in order to churn out research and churn out things
         | like this that merely expand the ADHD market. "What we've seen
         | over the past 10 [to] 20 years is a constant enthusiasm on the
         | part of the ADHD lobby to get more and more adults to consider
         | the possibility that they, too, have ADHD," Schwarz says.
         | 
         | (Source: _Adult ADHD Can 't Be Diagnosed With A Simple
         | Screening Test, Doctors Warn_ -
         | https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/29/5276546...
         | ).
         | 
         | I am not against self-help or personal research. But please
         | note that it is very easy to be mislead by such things and very
         | easy to misdiagnose your symptoms. Even the professionals have
         | a tough time with this!
        
           | ndndndnd wrote:
           | I'm neurodivergent and honestly this comment causes me pain.
        
           | lawlessone wrote:
           | Maybe your experience is different to mine but the amount of
           | hoops i had to jump through to get medication didn't make it
           | seem that way.
           | 
           | And i was lucky in a way as I have family that they could
           | also interview about my behavior to help confirm the
           | diagnosis.
           | 
           | Not to mention the medical checks to make sure I don't have
           | preexisting heart issues etc
           | 
           | It was a fight against my own feelings that "other people
           | sometimes get these thing but not me" and then it was fight
           | to get the diagnosis.
        
         | hirvi74 wrote:
         | What are your clinical observations and opinions on actual
         | research backed treatments? I am mainly concerned about the
         | efficacy of stimulants as a treatment as opposed to non-
         | stimulants and psychotherapeutic interventions.
         | 
         | Also, is there are evidence based instruments to aid in
         | diagnosis, then why do those same instruments tend to magically
         | be removed from care during the treatment phase?
         | 
         | For the sake of analogy, if a patient were to be diagnosed with
         | hypertension and an anti-hypertensive medication regiment is
         | started. I imagine upon returning for a follow up visit, the
         | patient's blood pressure will be remeasured in order to verify
         | the efficacy of the treatment.
         | 
         | For ADHD, I had to go through quite a significant diagnostic
         | process before being given the green light for treatment. Upon
         | returning for a follow up, the only methodology used to gauge
         | treatment efficacy is being asked, "How is <insert medication>
         | work for you?"
         | 
         | I always try to answer the question honestly, but after almost
         | 12 years of treatment, I still am not sure what to expect in
         | terms of treatment. Are such questions truly the only
         | evaluation of treatment? How can one tell if medication is
         | working better than they realize or not at all? Perhaps my
         | expectations are too high? Also, wouldn't some metric help
         | determine if tolerance is occurring?
        
           | lazystar wrote:
           | > How can one tell if medication is working better than they
           | realize or not at all?
           | 
           | in my case, if i still have a job, then its working lol
        
         | rendx wrote:
         | The biggest quarrel I have with it is that even if you get
         | clinically tested, at least in the cases where I asked friends
         | who got tested, they did not even try to rule out other causes,
         | like repressed childhood trauma/cPTSD. People might end up on
         | potentially lifelong medication, where other treatment options
         | and recovery may be available.
         | 
         | see e.g. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00922-8 ,
         | https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/adhd-linked-to-trauma
        
           | doright wrote:
           | What is even more insidious is if your own abusers adopt the
           | clinical methodology and label you with a condition (ADHD in
           | my case) such that you as a young person are incentivized to
           | forget about the abuse they themselves perpetrated. I have
           | lost decades of treatment to this exact phenomenon and it was
           | completely iatrogenic.
           | 
           | I no longer think any label suits my lived experience anymore
           | other than "traumatized", which is something that happened to
           | me (as opposed to "ADHD", which is something I am).
        
         | checker659 wrote:
         | As a late diagnosed ADHD person, I'd rather there be over
         | diagnosis than under diagnosis. We don't understand the brain.
         | There are a lot of us that suffer in silence.
        
       | koksik202 wrote:
       | Make the website version when open doesn't dim the screen
        
       | 6d6b73 wrote:
       | As soon as I loaded the page, I wanted to click on the
       | Procrastination page..but I guess I can do it tomorrow.
        
       | m_dupont wrote:
       | Small piece of product feeback related to grammar:
       | 
       | The landing page asks, how are you feeling? For which the
       | possible responses are "Anxiety", "Procrastination" ...
       | "Overwhelm".
       | 
       | When a person says, I a X, X is always an adjective. One doesn't
       | say "I am Irritability" one says "I am irritable".
       | 
       | All of these options are nouns, except for "Overwhelm" which is
       | actually only a verb but is being used incorrectly as a noun.
       | 
       | The correct responses would be "Anxious", "Hyperactive",
       | "Overwhelmed", "Irritable".
       | 
       | Except for "Procrastination", which doesn't have any associated
       | adjective. You might need to rephrase the whole header
        
       | dlivingston wrote:
       | This is going to sound like a shilled comment, but for the past
       | week, I've been using Motion [0] to manage all of my tasks and
       | scheduling. My lifelong weakness has always been so-called "time
       | blindness", and I cannot overstate how much of a game changer
       | Motion has been for me in keeping me focused and on-track. Both
       | for personal and professional tasks. It really feels like I've
       | just put on mental "glasses" and can see where I am and what I
       | should be doing with clarity.
       | 
       | It's only been a week, so maybe my opinion will change. Who
       | knows. I'm half writing this comment as a historical record for
       | myself to look back at in a year.
       | 
       | [0]: https://www.usemotion.com/
        
       | alienbaby wrote:
       | an entire section of the ADHD test questions appear to assume I
       | am school/college age :/
       | 
       | My ADHD partner was actually quite relaxed at the time I asked
       | her how she was feeling. That didnt appear to be an option to
       | choose.
        
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