[HN Gopher] Biocide overdose blunder suspected in A321 dual-engi...
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Biocide overdose blunder suspected in A321 dual-engine incident
(2020)
Author : worik
Score : 25 points
Date : 2025-06-24 20:05 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.flightglobal.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.flightglobal.com)
| lxe wrote:
| Is fuel contamination still the leading theory behind the recent
| Air India crash too?
| dale_huevo wrote:
| yes, fuel contamination (with effluent probably) is still very
| much in play as a possible factor.
|
| unfortunately, there has been a lot of typical misdirection and
| wild statements out of India, like trying to preemptively clear
| the pilots of wrongdoing before the recorders have been read
| out.
|
| most of the initial reports about the flight recorders were
| easily disproven as the 787 does not use an FDR/CVR but a more
| modern type of recorder that captures more data. which
| supposedly India lacks the equipment and/or knowhow to
| download.
|
| the chances of an objective and transparent investigation are
| basically zero.
| fakedang wrote:
| > like trying to preemptively clear the pilots of wrongdoing
| before the recorders have been read out.
|
| Because as far as the pilots are concerned, they seem to have
| done everything by the book? Every experienced 787 pilot
| literally now states that it's very less likely it's due to a
| pilot error because it's a 787 - it's designed to mitigate
| any form of pilot error, even if a pilot decided to go full
| suicidal and crash it. Within the aviation community, it's
| also bad practice to put blame on the pilots by default - in
| fact thinking like yours (oh, pilot error!) is what led to
| crashes like the 737 Max, because you'd like to rather blame
| the human rather than the machine or the process.
|
| > most of the initial reports about the flight recorders were
| easily disproven as the 787 does not use an FDR/CVR but a
| more modern type of recorder that captures more data. which
| supposedly India lacks the equipment and/or knowhow to
| download.
|
| > the chances of an objective and transparent investigation
| are basically zero.
|
| I can't believe you actually stated both these sentences one
| after the other. Yes, India does not have the equipment to
| read the flight recorders on the 787, which is why the DGCA
| already confirmed yesterday that it's sending the recorders
| to the US FAA.
| dkarl wrote:
| > the 787 does not use an FDR/CVR but a more modern type of
| recorder that captures more data. which supposedly India
| lacks the equipment and/or knowhow to download
|
| I thought there was a new lab in India that was equipped to
| recover data from this type of flight recorder, but in this
| case the recorders were being sent overseas because the
| extensive fire damage made the recovery process especially
| challenging [0]?
|
| [0] https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportat
| ion...
| i_am_jl wrote:
| Today the Civil Aviation Minister is claiming the black
| boxes are still in India with the AAIB.
|
| https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/black-box-of-
| crashed-...
| i_am_jl wrote:
| It's a possibility, but if it's the cause it would have to be a
| problem specific to only this aircraft (like the linked biocide
| incident) as no other aircraft experienced issues with
| contaminated fuel.
| heythere22 wrote:
| (2020)
| apical_dendrite wrote:
| The mentour pilot YouTube channel has a very good video on this
| incident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Qclymu2EA
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