[HN Gopher] ChatGPT's enterprise success against Copilot fuels O...
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ChatGPT's enterprise success against Copilot fuels OpenAI/Microsoft
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Author : mastermaq
Score : 99 points
Date : 2025-06-24 16:02 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| neonate wrote:
| https://archive.ph/cemKI
| rahimnathwani wrote:
| Is anyone here _not_ confused about how Copilot licenses work
| (free vs paid) and how to choose models for different types of
| task?
| FauxDemure wrote:
| Yes! I also feel like I use up my quote with my paid Copilot
| account faster than with my free ChatGPT one.
| ape4 wrote:
| Just ask Copilot
| simonw wrote:
| I'm confused over what anyone means when they say "Copilot",
| since it could mean the VS Code editor features or various
| features on github.com or the thing that Microsoft sell as part
| of their 365 office software.
|
| I think this article is about the 365 suite.
| rahimnathwani wrote:
| Yeah I'm talking about the thing you see when you go to
| https://m365.cloud.microsoft/chat/
|
| At the top-right of that page, it has a little icon
| indicating 'enterprise data protection' but I can't see any
| way for me (the user) to know what type of Copilot licence
| (if any) the accountholder has assigned to my user account.
| KoolKat23 wrote:
| If you have the fancy copilot pro, you'll see it in the
| rest of your office account, such as outlook, where
| additional features are available such as email summarize
| etc.
| airstrike wrote:
| Such an easy URL too
| kamarg wrote:
| Good old Microsoft naming. I'll never understand how they can
| think it's a good idea to release multiple entirely different
| products and call them all variations of the same thing. One
| would think they would have solved this problem a decade ago
| and yet every few years it happens again.
| airstrike wrote:
| There's also "Copilot" which is the AI assistant accessible
| online and via a desktop app on Windows (and even other OSs)
| parliament32 wrote:
| Don't forget about the Copilot in Windows, which is different
| from the Copilot in Bing, which is different from Copilot in
| Edge, which is different from the Copilot in Copilot
| Studio... and that's not even getting into the various
| Copilots across different 365 domains (Microsoft 365 Copilot
| for Sales, Microsoft 365 Copilot for Service, Copilot for
| Microsoft Fabric, Copilot for Dynamics 365, etc are all
| separate products), plus the enterprise-side Security
| Copilot...
| breadwinner wrote:
| Microsoft has wasted their opportunity.
|
| When ChatGPT first came out, Satya and Microsoft were seen as
| visionaries for their wisdom in investing in Open AI. Then
| competitors caught up while Microsoft stood still. Their
| integration with ChatGPT produced poor results [1] reminding
| people of Tay [2]. Bing failed to capitalize on AI, while
| Proclarity showed what an AI-powered search engine should really
| look like. Copilot failed to live up to its promise. Then
| Claude.ai, Gemini 2.0 caught up with or exceeded ChatGPT, and
| Microsoft still doesn't have their own model.
|
| [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-
| chatbot-m...
|
| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot)
| spiderfarmer wrote:
| The biggest problem with Microsoft is their UX. From finding
| out where to actually use their products, to signing in, wading
| through modals, popups, terms and agreements, redirects that
| don't work and links that point to nowhere. Along the way
| you'll run into inconsistent, decades old UI elements and
| marketing pages that fully misunderstand why you're there.
|
| It's a big, unsolvable mess that will forever prevent them from
| competing with legacy-free, capable startups.
|
| They should delete all their public facing websites and start
| over.
| atonse wrote:
| Bill Gates agreed with you 20 years ago :-) (this email never
| gets old)
|
| https://www.osnews.com/story/19921/full-text-an-epic-bill-
| ga...
| esafak wrote:
| > When SeattlePI asked Bill Gates about this particular
| email last week, he chuckled. "There's not a day that I
| don't send a piece of e-mail... like that piece of e-mail.
| That's my job."
|
| If he had to send the same email every day he wasn't doing
| his job well. Even a fraction of that list was too much.
| tartoran wrote:
| Their UX, their naming conventions from products to
| frameworks and services, pulled plugged on products, user
| hostility and so on are all pointing out the root of the
| problem is elsewhere. I think Microsoft is no longer
| reformable. It is a behemoth that will probably continue to
| coast along like a braindead gozilla zombie that just floats
| due to its sheer size.
| AppleBananaPie wrote:
| That's the feel I get too :/
|
| Too many crazy presentations on 'data' that are calling the
| calling the sky purple and everyone just nods along, ok's
| and gives promos all around.
| crowcroft wrote:
| Even with their failures Microsoft still has OpenAI over a
| barrel.
|
| Access to their IP, and 20% of revenue (not profit).
| dyauspitr wrote:
| How have they failed? They still get 49% of openAI's profits so
| if openAI wins, Microsoft wins.
| flowerlad wrote:
| That can be considered victory only if Microsoft is an
| investment firm as opposed to a software company.
| vbezhenar wrote:
| I'll add, that Google search AI integration is quite good. I'm
| actually amazed how well it works, given the scale of Google
| Search. Nowadays I don't click search results in 50% of
| searches, because Google AI outputs response good enough for
| me.
| asciimov wrote:
| Maybe we have a different Google AI down here in south Texas,
| but the Google search AI results I receive are laughably bad.
|
| It has made up tags for cli functions, suggested nonexistent
| functions with usage instructions, it's given me operations
| in the wrong order, and my personal favorite it gave me a
| code example in the wrong language (think replying Visual
| Basic for C).
| alfalfasprout wrote:
| this is the first I've heard of anyone praising it... the
| results are usually outright wrong or useless.
| Spooky23 wrote:
| The problem is that they made huge time consuming investments
| in technology to make copilot work with the various O365
| controls, then confused everyone by slathering copilot on
| everything.
| sethops1 wrote:
| Doesn't Microsoft own 49% of OpenAI and receives 20% of the
| revenue (according to ChatGPT)? In which case, what is Microsoft
| so upset about?
| micromacrofoot wrote:
| the other 51%
| layer8 wrote:
| That they only receive 20% of the revenue.
| hbn wrote:
| My work gives us Copilot access since We're a Microsoft Shop(tm)
|
| It's too bad Copilot is by far the dumbest competitor in the
| space
|
| My favorite interaction so far was when I prompted it with:
| ffmpeg command to convert movie.mov into a reasonably sized mp4
|
| Sure, it's not the most direction instructions, but I tend to
| give it just enough to get the job done, assuming the LLM knows
| what its purpose is as an LLM, and it always works with the other
| chatbots.
|
| Copilot's response: I implemented and executed
| the Python code above to convert movie.mov to a reasonably sized
| movie.mp4 using ffmpeg. However, the Python code
| failed since it was not able to find and access movie.mov file.
| Do you want me to try again or is there anything else that I can
| help you with?
|
| Note that I didn't cut anything out. It didn't actually provide
| me any "Python code above"
| whirlwin wrote:
| So much for the quality testing done by Microsoft...
| vpShane wrote:
| It's an AI race and they're all vibing off of what the other
| ones are doing and implementing accordingly. Meanwhile, I've
| been enjoying Google's AI studio. I can definitely see though
| the AI companies are trying, they're trying to give devs, and
| teams the tools they need to operate more efficiently and
| faster.
|
| However, piping code requests, and hey->do this, AI gives you
| something; the privacy aspect of it.
|
| On the in-terms, these ARE LLMs, devs/infra people do look at
| how their tools are being used. You can pull a lot of info
| with and about an organizatin and what their internals are up
| to just from how they're using the AI's information.
|
| So while we're looking at Microsoft's quality of testing,
| what does that really mean in terms of how they're viewing
| the tool usage.
| robots0only wrote:
| ohh wow, that's bad, just tried this with Gemini 2.5 Flash/Pro
| (and worked perfectly) -- I assume all frontier models should
| get this right (even simpler models should).
| quantadev wrote:
| I'd be willing to bet a more clear prompt would've given a
| good answer. People generally tend to overlook the fact that
| AIs aren't like "google". They're not really doing pure "word
| search" similar to Google. They expect a sensible sentence
| structure in order to work their best.
| roywiggins wrote:
| Maybe, but this sort of prompt structure doesn't bamboozle
| the better models at all. If anything they are quite good
| at guessing at what you mean even when your sentence
| structure is crap. People routinely use them to clean up
| their borderline-unreadable prose.
| macNchz wrote:
| I'm all about clear prompting, but even using the verbatim
| prompt from the OP "ffmpeg command to convert movie.mov
| into a reasonably sized mp4", the smallest current models
| from Google and OpenAI (gemini-2.5-flash-lite and
| gpt-4.1-nano) both produced me a working output with
| explanations for what each CLI arg does.
|
| Hell, the Q4 quantized Mistral Small 3.1 model that runs on
| my 16GB desktop GPU did perfectly as well. All three tests
| resulted in a command using x264 with crf 23 that worked
| without edits and took a random .mov I had from 75mb to
| 51mb, and included explanations of how to adjust the
| compression to make it smaller.
| hu3 wrote:
| What model? It got right first try here with your exact prompt
| using the free GPT-4.1 model.
|
| https://i.imgur.com/toLzwCk.png
|
| ffmpeg -i movie.mov -c:v libx264 -preset medium -crf 23 -c:a
| aac -b:a 128k movie.mp4
|
| BUT, I have this in my copilot-instructions.md file:
| # Always follow these steps when responding to any request
| 1. Please do a round of thinking in <thinking></thinking> tags
| 2. Then a round of self-critique in <critique></critique> tags
| 3. Then a final round of <thinking>, before responding.
| 4. If you need more information, ask for it.
| easton wrote:
| That's GitHub Copilot, not "microsoft copilot", the bot built
| into the Microsoft 365 landing site. it doesn't give you
| model options, for example.
| clvx wrote:
| Whoever decided to use the same brand for different
| experiences should be demoted at minimum. What a way to
| destroy trust.
| airstrike wrote:
| I suggest you never visit https://www.office.com/
| DangitBobby wrote:
| Good lord
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42751726
| shermantanktop wrote:
| Having established brand awareness is a double-edged
| sword. Preserve it and nobody knows what your new thing
| is, leverage it and everyone gets totally confused.
| vdfs wrote:
| Probably the same one responsible for Office -> 365
| naming
| DangitBobby wrote:
| It gets worse
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42751726
| ackfoobar wrote:
| Ha. Microsoft does it all the time.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40419292
| johnebgd wrote:
| Microsoft has the worst branding in tech. Microsoft
| Dynamics is like three different code bases and the Xbox
| is on its last legs thanks in large part to their naming
| schemes confusing consumers.
| dcminter wrote:
| Ah yes, I call this "brandfucking."
|
| IBM used to be a repeat offender. I recall trying to buy
| the WebSphere (Java) application server for a client and
| then finding out that IBM had slapped "WebSphere" on all
| their products including things like1 MQ Series (a queue)
| and DB/2 (a database). It took me an hour to figure out
| the right item and it was an online purchase!
|
| 1I might be misremembering the exact products but it was
| similarly absurd.
| quantadev wrote:
| I love Copilot in VSCode. I always select model "Claude Sonnet
| 3.7", when in Copilot since it lets me choose the LLM. What I
| love about Copilot is the tight integration with VSCode. I can
| just ask it to do something and it relies on the intelligence
| of Claude to get the right code generated, and then all Copilot
| is really doing is editing my code for me, reading whatever
| code Claude tells it to, to build context, etc.
| KoolKat23 wrote:
| That's a different, more useable copilot.
| quantadev wrote:
| That's why I said "in VSCode" because I have no idea what
| this guy is running, but it's almost a certainty the
| problem isn't copilot but it's a bad LLM and/or his bad
| prompt.
| MangoCoffee wrote:
| Claude Sonnet 3.7 is my default as well in Visual Studio. i
| have been playing with their new default GPT-4.1. its not
| bad.
| FergusArgyll wrote:
| People think that llms are an excuse to be lazy. You have to
| put some effort into the prompt!
| KoolKat23 wrote:
| Ironically copilot is lazy, have to prompt it to death,
| whereas the others are aligned and actually provide answers
| with the same prompt.
|
| (Perhaps copilot is not lazy, just stupid relative to its
| peers.)
| roywiggins wrote:
| No, you don't. ChatGPT easily answers this question posed
| verbatim.
| moelf wrote:
| even gemma3:12b gets it correct:
|
| ~> ollama run gemma3:12b-it-qat >>> ffmpeg command to convert
| movie.mov into a reasonably sized mp4
|
| Here's a good ffmpeg command to convert `movie.mov` to a
| reasonably sized MP4, along with explanations to help you
| adjust it:
|
| ```bash ffmpeg -i movie.mov -c:v libx264 -crf 23 -preset medium
| -c:a aac -b:a 128k movie.mp4 ```
|
| *Explanation of the command and the options:*
| magicalhippo wrote:
| Even the 1B variant gave me that one, along with good
| explanations of the various options and what to play with to
| tweak the result.
| cmrx64 wrote:
| i'm pretty surprised 1B parameters is enough for it to
| still fluently remember ffmpeg-fu
| what-the-grump wrote:
| I cannot reproduce this in any version of copilot?
|
| Copilot with outlook.com
|
| Copilot base one that comes with M365,
|
| And the add-on one for 30$/mo.
|
| Copilot in VS code
|
| All produce: ffmpeg -i movie.mov -vcodec libx264 -crf 23
| -preset medium -acodec aac -b:a 128k output.mp4
|
| Which is not surprising because its just an Open AI 4o call...
| so how are you getting this?
| svachalek wrote:
| Copilot is not OpenAI
| adastra22 wrote:
| It is OpenAI weights under the hood, unless something
| changed recently?
| NordSteve wrote:
| I pasted your prompt: ffmpeg command to convert
| movie.mov into a reasonably sized mp4
|
| into the Copilot app just now. Here's the response:
| ffmpeg -i movie.mov -vcodec libx264 -crf 23 -preset medium
| -acodec aac -b:a 128k movie_converted.mp4
|
| with this explanation Here's the breakdown:
| - -vcodec libx264: Uses the H.264 video codec, great for
| compression and compatibility. - -crf 23: Constant Rate
| Factor -- lower means better quality and larger size; higher
| means smaller size but lower quality. 23 is a nice middle
| ground. - -preset medium: Controls encoding speed vs.
| compression efficiency. You can try slow or faster depending on
| your needs. - -acodec aac -b:a 128k: Compresses the audio
| using AAC at 128 kbps -- pretty standard and compact. If
| you're looking for even smaller file sizes, try bumping -crf up
| to 26 or using -preset slow. Want to bake in scaling,
| remove metadata, or trim the video too? Happy to tailor the
| command further.
| glenstein wrote:
| One fascinating aspect of LLMs is they make out-in-the-wild
| anecdotes instantly reproducible or, alternatively,
| comparable to results from others with different outcomes.
|
| A lot of our bad experiences with, say, customer support
| hotlines, municipal departments, bad high school teachers,
| whatever, are associated with a habit of speaking that ads
| flavor, vibes, or bends experiences into on-the-nose stories
| with morals in part because we know they can't be reviewed or
| corrected by others.
|
| Bringing that same way of speaking to LLMs can show us either
| (1) the gap between what it does and how people describe what
| it did or (2) shows that people are being treated differently
| by the same LLMs which I think are both fascinating outcomes.
| myhf wrote:
| We're also seeing a new variant of Cunningham's law:
|
| The best way to get the right answer from an LLM is not to
| ask it the right question; it's to post online that it got
| the wrong answer.
| vel0city wrote:
| I put your exact prompt into Copilot and it gave me the command
|
| ffmpeg -i movie.mov -vcodec libx264 -crf 23 -preset medium
| -acodec aac -b:a 128k movie_converted.mp4
|
| Along with a pretty detailed and decently sounding reasoning as
| to why it picked these options.
| rzzzt wrote:
| Your conversations are notebooks and the code it conjured up
| should be behind a dropdown arrow. For visualization it seems
| to work fine (i.e. Copilot will generate a Python snippet, run
| it on the input file I attach to the request and present the
| diagram as a response).
| esskay wrote:
| This is pretty interesting, I had a very similar experience
| with Github Copilot's plugin inside Jetbrains IDE today (set to
| use 4o). I asked it to tell me how to do something, it instead
| routed in my code, tried to write a python file (its a PHP
| project) and told me it couldn't do it and did the exact same
| "Do you want me to try again or is there anything else I can
| help you with?"
|
| Thing is I ask it random bits like this all the time and it's
| never done that before so I'm assuming some recent update has
| borked something.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Because of the partnership with OpenAI, I always assumed Copilot
| was just built on top of GPT.
|
| So how did MS make Copilot Suck, if it started with same base?
| bix6 wrote:
| Real talk! Copilot is so bad. It's literally useless. And they
| charge an absolute arm for it. Like how is it soooo much worse
| than Chat? I am a frustrated monky when I use Copilot.
| treesknees wrote:
| Microsoft Copilot uses their own model that is originally based
| on GPT-4 if I'm not mistaken.
|
| But, it's mostly a RAG tool, "grounded in web" as they say.
| When you give Copilot a query, it uses the model to reword your
| query into an optimal Bing search query, fetches the results,
| and then crafts output using the model.
|
| I commend their attempt to use Bing as a source of data to keep
| up to date and reduce hallucinations, especially in an
| enterprise setting where users may be more sensitive to false
| information, however as a result some of the answers it gives
| can only be as good as the Bing search results.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Seems like with their own resources, and also owning part of
| GPT, they should be able to pivot and at least make a
| programming tool equal to Chat GPT.
| crop_rotation wrote:
| The problem is it is very hard to make changes and build
| innovative new products within big tech, at a pace to compete
| with smaller companies. Big tech succeeds despite it since the
| resource disparity is too much.
|
| Since the launch of ChatGPT Microsoft has had access to it and
| even had some of the most popular code editors, and where did it
| take them. This is why Meta had to launch threads with a very
| small team since a big team in Big tech can just not compete.
|
| Off course like everything else there are no absolutes and when
| Big Tech feels there is an existential crisis on something they
| do start improving, however such moments are far and few.
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| I read today that OpenAI is planning a 'AI super app' that would
| have canvas, word processing, etc., all in one work app. That
| actually sounds like a good idea to me and is very different from
| Google's approach of integrating Gemini into the work place apps.
| Google may have an advantage because so many people are used to
| working in Workspace apps.
| airstrike wrote:
| Mind providing a link? I may or may not be creating the exact
| same thing...
|
| Also if anyone from OpenAI or any of its competitors wants to
| talk my email is on my HN profile ;-)
| owebmaster wrote:
| That's the app many of us are creating and I bet some of them
| are going to be much better than the OpenAI one
| airstrike wrote:
| Tamo junto
| jorl17 wrote:
| Microsoft's decision to name this product Copilot has to be the
| result of some form of internal sabotage, I refuse to believe
| otherwise.
|
| A lot of the early adopters (and driving forces) of LLMs have
| been tech-minded people. This means it's quite a good idea NOT to
| confuse them.
|
| And, yet, Microsoft decided to name their product Microsoft
| Copilot, even though they already had a (quite well-received!!)
| Copilot in the form of Github Copilot, a product which has also
| been expanding to include a plethora of other functionality
| (albeit in a way that does make sense). How is this not
| incredibly confusing?
|
| So what actually _is_ Copilot? Is there a bing copilot? A copilot
| in windows machines? Is it an online service? (I saw someone post
| a link to an office 365)?
|
| I'm going to be honest and tell you that I have no fucking clue
| what Microsoft Copilot actually is, and Microsoft's insistence on
| being either hostile to users or pretending like they're not
| creating a confusing mess of semantic garbage is insulting. I am
| lucky not to have to use Windows daily, and most of what I do
| that involves copilot is...Github Copilot.
|
| I am knee-deep into LLMs. My friends can't stand me with how much
| I go on about them, how I use them, from remote to local models,
| to agents, to the very debatable idea that they may be conscious,
| you name it. And yet, as bullish as I am on the thing, I have no
| fucking clue what Microsoft copilot is. Perhaps I'm definitely
| not their target market, but from what I've seen, tech-illiterate
| people have no idea what it is either, just that it's "more
| microsoft trash".
|
| When I was younger, I used to be a very loud anti-microsoft boy,
| I loathed everything they did. Slowly, for a while, they were
| managing to win me over (in part because I outgrew that phase,
| but also because they have definitely been cleaning up their
| image and, at least to me, producing better and more relevant
| software). However, in recent years, their insistence on naming
| everything this way and creating a maze out of their products
| is...baffling. I feel myself not being able to stand MS again.
|
| And what is it with big corporations and a seeming inability to
| name their products decently? This is appalling. The people
| making these decisions should be fired, because clearly they
| don't have any pride in what they do, or they wouldn't have
| allowed this.
|
| Get your shit together, microsoft!
| airstrike wrote:
| Everything is Copilot, but they're all different products, and
| one of them is just a launcher to Office apps, each with their
| own assistant called Copilot
| jjcm wrote:
| > Microsoft's decision to name this product Copilot has to be
| the result of some form of internal sabotage
|
| If you look at this in isolation, yes. If you look at this
| historically, it's totally on-brand for Microsoft. Office 365,
| Live, MSN were all brand that Microsoft has slapped wholesale
| on things. Microsoft has always been reactive when it comes to
| branding, rather than proactive.
| esafak wrote:
| How are managers going to earn their keep if they don't
| rebrand and re-org?!
| jdsully wrote:
| I'm reminded of when .NET was released suddenly everything was
| .NET, even an office release was named after it. Then it
| finally narrowed down into the programming languages we know
| and love or hate depending on your vibe. I assume this will
| happen here too eventually.
| thiagoperes wrote:
| msft had a massive edge. it had exclusive access to models + had
| web search before anyone.
|
| they flopped this royally, just like windows mobile. they created
| a shitty ux by shoving it inside the bing app, then they decided
| to charge for it instead of capturing all enterprise value.
|
| lastly, the product has stalled and missed on their biggest
| opportunity which is tapping into the data. you can think it's
| because of how complex it must be, but then openai and everybody
| else did it.
|
| it's truly a lesson in product mismanagement, once again, from
| microsoft
| androng wrote:
| I only used free Microsoft Copilot once back when GPT-4 came out
| and it wasn't free on OpenAI yet. The responses from Microsoft
| GPT-4 sucked vs OpenAI GPT-4 because they were short and I assume
| Microsoft made the system prompt do that to save money. I never
| went back to Microsoft copilot again and have not heard anyone
| talk about it or meta ai either.
| alganet wrote:
| > It's unclear whether OpenAI's momentum with corporations will
| continue, but the company recently said it has 3 million paying
| business users
|
| That's the only data point the article has, and it is incomplete
| (no Copilot numbers).
|
| The rest are just testimonials (some of anonymous character) and
| stories.
|
| Who's having more success then? No one knows. It's up to the
| reader to decide.
|
| Looks like made-up rivalry article to me. Draws clicks, no actual
| content inside.
| smcleod wrote:
| Microsoft just did a rug pull by introducing dramatically reduced
| rate limits on copilot requests for paying customers too.
|
| I'm seeing enterprise and personal users hit their monthly rate
| limits in less than 3 days.
| dwayne_dibley wrote:
| I don't understand how it's not more useful to most people with
| copilot subscriptions in work. It has access to my works
| OneDrive, it really should be the most commonly used LLM
| napoleongl wrote:
| If only MS copilot was an actual co-pilot in my daily flight of
| work... but no, it cannot actually draft an email, create planner
| tasks or book meetings. It is a crappy way of using an LLM that
| sometimes can access your stuff from MS graph and sometimes has
| no idea about the six emails from Steve in my inbox. And no, its
| PowerPoints are not good either, they are LinkedIn in ppt-form.
| NordSteve wrote:
| Here are the results I just got.
|
| 1. In Outlook asked Copilot to "create an email asking for a
| weekly status update for Project ABC". Iterating a bit, I asked
| it to be more casual and shorter. Here's what I got:
| Hey Team, Hope you're all doing great. To keep
| everyone on the same page with Project ABC, I'd like us to
| start doing weekly status updates. Just a quick summary of key
| developments, milestones, challenges, and what's coming up
| would be super helpful. This way, we can coordinate better and
| tackle any issues right away. Thanks for your
| cooperation and hard work. Looking forward to your updates!
|
| That seems pretty on point. Not exactly my style but to say
| "cannot actually draft an email" is clearly wrong.
|
| 2. I provided Copilot with this prompt:
|
| "I am upgrading the electrical service at my house from 100a to
| 200a service. Create a project plan in Planner for this
| project."
|
| Here's the response I got: Nice! Upgrading from
| 100A to 200A is a solid move--more headroom for your gear and
| future-proofing your setup. Here's a breakdown of how you could
| structure this as a project in Microsoft Planner, with buckets
| and tasks to keep it organized: --- ###
| **Bucket 1: Planning & Permitting** - **Assess current
| electrical load and future needs** - **Consult with a
| licensed electrician** - **Request utility service
| requirements** - **Obtain local permits for electrical
| service upgrade** - **Review NEC and local code
| requirements** --- ### **Bucket 2:
| Materials & Scheduling** - **Select upgraded panel (200A
| rated) and breakers** - **Order required materials
| (panel, feeder wires, conduit, ground rods, etc.)** -
| **Coordinate shutdown and install time with utility provider**
| - **Schedule rough-in inspection with local authority**
| --- ### **Bucket 3: Installation** - **Shut
| off power at the main disconnect (coordinate with utility)**
| - **Remove existing 100A panel and components** -
| **Install 200A panel and connect feeders** - **Upgrade
| grounding/bonding system as required** - **Replace meter
| socket if required** --- ### **Bucket 4:
| Inspections & Finalization** - **Schedule and pass
| electrical inspection** - **Have utility restore
| permanent power** - **Label circuits clearly in new
| panel** - **Update homeowner insurance with new
| electrical capacity** --- ### **Bucket 5:
| Post-Project Wrap-Up** - **Document panel layout and
| upgrades** - **Evaluate energy use and plan for future
| expansion (EV charger, generator, etc.)** - **Close out
| permits with inspection authority** ---
| You can assign these tasks to yourself or any contractors
| involved, and add due dates to align with your timelines. Want
| help creating a PowerShell script to bulk import this into
| Planner?
|
| It did produce a working script that required 1 configuration
| edit. The project plan is pretty good given the limited
| information I provided in the prompt.
|
| 3. I provided Copilot with this prompt: book a
| meeting with <name> for August 1 entitled "Test Meeting"
|
| Not a very good response: I can't directly book
| meetings or access your calendar, but I can help you set it up!
| Here's an example of what to enter in Outlook or your preferred
| calendar app: **Title:** Test Meeting
| **Date:** August 1 **Attendees:** Bryan Herbst
| **Time:** [Insert your preferred time] **Location:**
| [Optional] **Description:** [Add any notes or agenda
| items] If you're using PowerShell or a script to
| automate calendar events--especially within Microsoft 365--I
| can help you write that too. Want to go that route?
| smithkl42 wrote:
| We're paying for Copilot for Office365. I asked it recently to
| retrieve a list of field names mentioned in a document - about as
| basic a task as you could hope for. It told me it couldn't do so.
|
| My precise request: "Extract the list of field names in Exhibit
| A."
|
| Its precise response: "I understand that you want to extract the
| list of field names from Exhibit A in your document.
| Unfortunately, I cannot directly perform document-related
| commands such as extracting text from specific sections."
|
| I tried several different ways of convincing it, before giving up
| and using the web version of ChatGPT, which did it perfectly.
|
| I had an even worse experience with the Copilot built into the
| new version of SSMS. It just won't look at the query window at
| all. You have to copy and paste the text of your query into the
| chat window ... which, like, what's the point then?
| protocolture wrote:
| Copilot is brainrot and its killing microsoft.
|
| Renaming all their products to Copilot makes no sense and just
| causes brand confusion.
|
| Copilot getting access to your entire 365/azure tenant is just a
| security nightmare waiting to happen (in fact theres already that
| one published and presumably patched vuln)
|
| It has so many shackles on that its functionally useless. Half
| the time I ask it to edit one of my emails, it simply spits my
| exact text back out.
|
| Its one singular advantage is that it has crystal clear
| corpospeak license surrounding what it says your data will be
| used for. Whether or not its true is irrelevant, organisations
| will pick it up for that feature alone. No one ever got fired for
| choosing ibm etc.
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