[HN Gopher] Captain Cook's missing ship found after sinking 250 ...
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Captain Cook's missing ship found after sinking 250 years ago
Author : rmason
Score : 144 points
Date : 2025-06-17 20:46 UTC (4 days ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.independent.co.uk)
| duxup wrote:
| I'm sure the rename had good reason but I can't imagine going
| from a name like "HMS Endeavour", what a great name, to "Lord
| Sandwich" ... in modern times that sounds like some lighthearted
| forum username.
| linksnapzz wrote:
| The HMS Lord Sandwich's namesake is almost certainly former 1st
| Lord of the Admiralty John Montagu, the 4th Earl of Sandwich &&
| person that the dish is actually named after.
| jonstewart wrote:
| He was also head of the British navy ("First Lord of the
| Admiralty") at the time and a great supporter of Cook's, so
| there's even a closer connection specific to the Endeavor.
| Cook named Hawaii the "Sandwich Islands" after him.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Montagu,_4th_Earl_of_Sand.
| ..
| westurner wrote:
| What were the existing names of the islands?
| ok_dad wrote:
| It's the Hawaiian islands
| westurner wrote:
| Hawai`i > Etymology:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii#Etymology
| cjs_ac wrote:
| The Earl of Sandwich was not a naval officer; the First
| Lord of the Admiralty was the chair of the Board of
| Admiralty, which was a committee formed to undertake the
| duties of the office of Lord High Admiral. The Board of
| Admiralty had responsibility for the administration of the
| Royal Navy. Operational command was (and remains) the
| responsibility of the Sea Lords; the most senior serving
| officer of the Royal Navy is the First Sea Lord.
| loloquwowndueo wrote:
| Hey at least it wasn't Boaty McBoatface
| helsinkiandrew wrote:
| At that time the Royal Navy had in excess of 500 active ships
| and creating names must have taken some effort - there was a
| HMS Terrible and HMS Fanny.
| nkrisc wrote:
| > HMS Terrible
|
| https://www.dictionary.com/browse/terrible
|
| 3. exciting terror, awe, or great fear; dreadful; awful.
|
| 4. formidably great.
|
| I think it's a perfectly suitable name for a warship. The
| notion of "terrible" describing the inferior quality of
| something is a much more recent meaning, I believe.
| HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
| Yeah, but compare "HMS Fanny" to "HMS Indefatigable."
|
| Especially considering the British colloquial usage of
| "fanny" I think someone was in a particularly good mood
| that day.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| Don't forget HMS Cockchafer, Spanker, and Tickler.
| WalterBright wrote:
| The _dreadnought_ class of warships have the best moniker.
| falcor84 wrote:
| I love that they also marked up "Sandwich" as a tag, to make it
| easier for you to explore other articles they had published
| about sandwiches.
| teeray wrote:
| It also likely gave us Sandwich, MA, which consequently gave us
| the police there, who are literally "Sandwich Police"
| pcthrowaway wrote:
| Or you can find an art gallery next to a Subway, where
| Sandwich artists work side by side.
| potato3732842 wrote:
| Which is doubly funny because it's a tourist/retirement town
| with a larger than it needs police department (whole region
| is this way, not just this town) so they inevitably fill
| their time with with activities befitting the name.
| Electricniko wrote:
| Are you saying the excessive number of police results in
| absurd enforcement practices, or are you saying their
| officers are large because they spend all day confiscating
| sandwiches?
| louthy wrote:
| Yes
| bryanlarsen wrote:
| Same reason we get modern stupid names like "Crypto.com Arena".
| Those who pay the money and/or give the orders get to choose
| the name, and they like putting their own names on things.
| WalterBright wrote:
| In Seattle we have the "Climate Pledge Arena"
| sfjailbird wrote:
| Maybe they did a public poll to name the vessel...
| moron4hire wrote:
| The bigger question is if making a _Sandwich_ is considered
| _Cook_ ing.
| collingreen wrote:
| Slow clap
| wpollock wrote:
| The even bigger question is, does a hot dog count as a
| sandwich?
| moron4hire wrote:
| It's clearly an Usonian Taco.
| daedalus_j wrote:
| In case you were unaware:
|
| http://cuberule.com has solved this question definitively.
| lordsandwich wrote:
| Hey, I resemble that remark.
|
| The Endeavor is not to be confused with Shackleton's ship the
| Endurance (as I had in my mind), which went down after getting
| mangled by pack ice and never got the chance to be officially
| renamed the "Lord Hamburger".
| WalterBright wrote:
| Even better: "Sir Osis of Liver"
| anonymous344 wrote:
| how tf u can make website so awful to the mobile user?
| pxmpxm wrote:
| TBH not a ton better on the desktop...
| fluidcruft wrote:
| Seems fine on Firefox Android. Possibly uBlock helps there are
| a bunch of empty white things so dunno.
| jen729w wrote:
| A once-decent newspaper whose broadsheet I used to read in the
| late 90s. Long gone the way of the Daily Mail et. al., alas. I
| see the Indie's URL now and don't even bother.
| pomian wrote:
| Yup. Switch to Firefox or fennec and use ublock. Clean story.
| Even can use text mode.
| cromulent wrote:
| Didn't they announce this 3 years ago?
|
| https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/03/capta...
| hluska wrote:
| That article says that the Rhode Island Marine Archaeology
| Project didn't agree with the identification. This new article
| is about a published article on the discovery. The articles are
| totally different.
| madaxe_again wrote:
| I read it not so much as a disagreement over identification
| but over publication rights, which is the norm in academia.
| bredren wrote:
| > who said the finding was "premature" and a "breach of
| contract", claiming that it was the lead organisation for
| the study
|
| "Premature" and "breach of contract" are very different
| things.
|
| I wonder what additional work was done so as to find that
| announcement now, years later, is okay.
| freedomben wrote:
| My parent brain read this as Captain Hook instead of Captain Cook
| and I've gotta say, I'm a little disappointed
| BurningFrog wrote:
| Now I finally realize why the character is named Captain Hook!
| parpfish wrote:
| It's just a coincidence that he has a hook for a hand. He was
| Mr Hook for years before that accident where the croc bit his
| hand off.
| mediumsmart wrote:
| You are not supposed to cook a sandwich
| rbits wrote:
| I beg to differ
| HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
| Panini, anyone? I take it you've never had a good Cuban
| sandwich, then.
| BurningFrog wrote:
| A bit odd to have an Al Jazeera video on
| https://www.independent.co.uk/
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| Has anyone found a clear indication of the wreck's location?
|
| There's been a lot of interesting ship activity in Narraganset
| Bay lately, at least as seen when crossing the Jamestown /
| Newport bridges. I'm curious if any of it's related to that
| wreck.
| Hilift wrote:
| The map shows a location of a line of deliberately scuttled
| ships to block the harbor between Rose Island and Battery Park.
| Most of the ships were salvaged, the Endeavour was not.
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| Interesting, thanks. I guess I was probably barking up the
| wrong tree then.
|
| Most of the interesting ship activity I've been seeing lately
| is further west and north.
|
| And URI GSO's research vessel has been closer to its main
| dock, which shouldn't have surprised me one little bit.
| app134 wrote:
| I don't believe they have made it public.
|
| I worked this wreck with RIMAP and had to sign an NDA before
| boating out, but that was back in 2020
| HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
| > Lord Sandwich was one of thirteen vessels scuttled
| (deliberately sunk) to act as a submerged blockade
|
| That's a pretty sucky end for a vessel that made so much history.
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