[HN Gopher] The Hewlett-Packard Archive
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       The Hewlett-Packard Archive
        
       Author : joebig
       Score  : 50 points
       Date   : 2025-06-16 02:01 UTC (21 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (hparchive.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (hparchive.com)
        
       | TruffleLabs wrote:
       | FYI they say "Computers and calculators are not the focus of this
       | archive website."
        
         | adrian_b wrote:
         | While the HP computers and calculators were well documented and
         | their design process was also frequently described in HP
         | Journal or other HP publications, the most valuable HP
         | publications were about their measurement instruments.
         | 
         | Many of the ancient service manuals for HP measurement
         | instruments were much better for learning electronics
         | engineering than most university manuals.
        
         | whartung wrote:
         | I understand, but that's a shame.
         | 
         | Way back, talking 1980 or so, my father got a newsletter cum
         | magazine of sort from HP. Marketing material to be sure, but
         | not just raw marketing. Some corporate organ that could easily
         | been called something like "HP Today".
         | 
         | But inside was, at the time, a science fiction story about
         | handheld computers in the future. It was a fascinating bit of
         | "snapshot in time" that I would enjoy seeing again.
        
         | burnt-resistor wrote:
         | In the off-topic calculator department: hpcalc.org :)
         | 
         | I have an HP 48 (series of graphing calculators) overhead
         | projector display (InVision 48) that may need refurbishment to
         | work, but I just found the manual at hpcalc.org.[0]
         | 
         | 0. https://literature.hpcalc.org/items/1290
        
       | fmajid wrote:
       | The actual HP archive, held by Agilent, went up in flames during
       | a California wildfire:
       | 
       | https://spectrum.ieee.org/loss-of-hewlettpackard-archive-a-w...
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | Yeah, too bad it had not been digitized sooner.
        
       | computator wrote:
       | The HP 185A oscilloscope[1], 500 MHz bandwidth, was $2000 in
       | their 1960 catalog[2]. That would be $22,000 in today's dollars.
       | (The brochure doesn't say MHz but uses MC meaning megacycles.) It
       | would be fun to compare the specs to a cheap hobbyist level scope
       | today.
       | 
       | [1] https://hparchive.com/Brochures/HP-185A-Brochure.pdf
       | 
       | [2] https://hparchive.com/Catalogs/HP-Catalog-1960-Short-
       | Revised...
        
         | bandoti wrote:
         | I'm sure someone has done this, but it would be interesting to
         | study the overall tech landscape and compare which technology
         | has sort of retained its value, depreciated, or increased in
         | value--and how long those phases take. Even as far back as
         | things like cast-iron printing presses and such. I mean also
         | value in terms of usage not necessarily monetary.
         | 
         | The cycles we go through where a new tech supplants an old one,
         | people thinking it's the way of the future, and the old
         | processes maybe forgotten for a while. Some might come back,
         | others completely obsolescent. Still others the old tech might
         | be superior to new--but more expensive (like old hard-wood
         | window panes) and not sustainable.
        
           | godzillabrennus wrote:
           | Historically, technology has been deflationary.
        
         | msgodel wrote:
         | I think I have this scope or a very similar one. I got it for
         | free from someone else. (currently in storage.) It's a great
         | hobbyist scope although mine doesn't have a DFT function which
         | can be annoying. I've been borrowing a friend's modern digital
         | scope when I've needed one. I think he only paid a few hundred
         | for it. It's a little faster and has some more modern
         | functions.
         | 
         | EDIT: Oops nope. Looked at the model number rather than the
         | brochure. That's definitely an older analog scope while mine is
         | digital.
        
       | mrweasel wrote:
       | Historically it's interesting, but come on, give us the IRIX
       | source code, we know you have it somewhere.
        
         | bitwize wrote:
         | IBM - AIX
         | 
         | DEC - Ultrix/Digital Unix
         | 
         | Apple - A/UX, macOS
         | 
         | HP - HP-UX
         | 
         | SGI - IRIX
         | 
         | Sun - SunOS, Solaris
        
           | spijdar wrote:
           | Given acquisitions, the current IP ownership is more like:
           | 
           | IBM - AIX
           | 
           | HPE - ULTRIX, Tru64/OSF1/DIGITAL UNIX, HP-UX, IRIX
           | 
           | Apple - A/UX, macOS
           | 
           | Oracle - SunOS, Solaris
        
             | pkaye wrote:
             | If HP and Sun had merged, I wonder if HP-UX would become
             | HP-SUX.
        
               | hawflakes wrote:
               | It's in the Jargon file. Your comment made me remember
               | this bit:
               | 
               | Hackers at HP/Apollo (the former Apollo Computers which
               | was swallowed by HP in 1989) have been heard to complain
               | that Mr. Packard should have pushed to have his name
               | first, if for no other reason than the greater eloquence
               | of the resulting acronym.
               | 
               | https://zvon.org/comp/r/ref-Jargon_file.html#Terms~HP-SUX
        
           | burnt-resistor wrote:
           | In the 00's, the CS program at my undergrad university had
           | computer clusters with all of the above +Linux +MINIX -Apple
           | -DEC. It was de rigueur then to write portable C/C++ code and
           | (non-GNU) Makefiles.
           | 
           | Also, lest not forget the contentious one: SCO - SCO -> Sun
           | -> Oracle
        
         | sillywalk wrote:
         | It's not complete but there's this:
         | 
         | https://github.com/calmsacibis995/irix-6517-src
        
       | darthcloud wrote:
       | I worked for almost 10 years at HP/HPE in the 2010s on embedded
       | systems. I don't remember if it was a memo from Dave or Bill, but
       | it was about never sacrificing quality for a deadline. Needless
       | to say, we loved to dig up that old memo whenever PMs pushed too
       | hard to get things released too early.
        
       | markneub wrote:
       | I rescued an HP-200A audio oscillator from the basement of a
       | relative who'd passed away, thinking it looked interesting.
       | Anyone know if it has any value? I'm guessing it's nothing too
       | special with a serial number of 30211.
        
       | pidgeon_lover wrote:
       | I thought it would be an HP computer driver archive, as HP are
       | notorious for taking down the driver downloads for older models.
       | Does anyone know of such a driver archive?
       | 
       | The Sony Vaio line of computers had a similar problem, and
       | community members launched the Vaio Library
       | (https://vaiolibrary.com/index.php/Welcome_to_the_VAIO_Librar...
       | / https://archive.vaiolibrary.com/)
        
         | burnt-resistor wrote:
         | If the website didn't use some annoying click tracking
         | redirection or javascript, try the old standby:
         | https://archive.org
        
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