[HN Gopher] Prince's special custom-font symbol floppy disks (2016)
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       Prince's special custom-font symbol floppy disks (2016)
        
       Author : arbesman
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2025-06-05 15:54 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | MisterTea wrote:
       | https://archive.is/6A5rW
        
       | frmersdog wrote:
       | Needs a (2016).
       | 
       | Because of my age, Prince was not "Prince" for much of my
       | childhood; I was introduced to him as "The Artist Formerly Known
       | As Prince" and just assumed that that was all we'd ever call him
       | in the future.
       | 
       | Renaming oneself is surely not any new phenomenon, but the
       | reasons seem to get more and more interesting. Malcolm Little
       | famously erased his "slave name" and replaced it with an X. I
       | also just recently learned about FM-2030. And then there's the
       | self-naming practices that grew around the hacking and early web
       | scenes, and which still features prominently in places like the
       | FGC and furry fandom.
       | 
       | So you've got a guy fighting cynical capitalist legalism, a guy
       | attempting to erase the detritus of colonialism from his
       | identity, another guy trying to erase his ties to tribalism, and
       | then a bunch of people trying to mask their identities in
       | presumed Dark Forest (concluding in, essentially, the creation of
       | alter egos).
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | To name a thing is to own it.
         | 
         | Own yourself. Own fragments of yourself. Own your public self
         | as something separate from your private self. Own a public self
         | that does things your normal public self would never (be
         | allowed to) do. Own a new identity, maybe it'll replace your
         | main one if it really works out.
        
         | wodenokoto wrote:
         | I also learned of prince while he was the artist formerly known
         | as prince and it took me a long time to learn that it wasn't
         | some quirky stage name but that he actually was an artist that
         | was formerly named prince.
         | 
         | Even to this day, calling him prince feels like an
         | abbreviation.
        
         | Animats wrote:
         | > Needs a (2016).
         | 
         | Was that an obituary? "The former artist known as Prince" died
         | in 2016.
         | 
         | Did that symbol ever make it into Unicode?
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | "How many people can just say 'Hey, I'm changing my name to this
       | symbol so can you use it from now on?' and everyone's like
       | 'Alright. Okay. No questions asked. You're Prince! We'll do it!'
       | It was kind of funny to me."
       | 
       | Um, "You're Prince!" No, I'm not. That's the point of this
       | conversation. I am no longer Prince. Do not call me that.
        
         | selimthegrim wrote:
         | "It's A Pimp Named Slickback. It's like A Tribe Called Quest,
         | you say the whole thing straight"
        
         | Brian_K_White wrote:
         | "I don't have a verbal name, just this graphical symbol"
         | 
         | "Ok. Steve it is then."
         | 
         | As far as I'm concerned, by failing provide something usable
         | himself, he waived any right to ownership or interest, and
         | everyone was free to apply whatever placeholder label they want
         | when they need to refer to him. It's no longer any of his
         | business. He opted out of having any say in it.
         | 
         | In other words this is not a Dayta vs Dahta situation.
         | 
         | I'm lucky in that I have no reason to refer to him for any
         | reason that doesn't involve his music or performances from the
         | time when he was still named Prince, so as far as I'm
         | concerned, for all of those references at least, it's still
         | valid to refer to that artist by that name, and it doesn't
         | matter that some other artist exists at some other time. It's a
         | Prince album, a song written by Prince, Prince played pretty
         | great guitar in a special one time, etc.
         | 
         | I bet he still collected royalty checks that Prince earned and
         | retained ownership of all his posessions and copyrights even
         | though he was supposedly not Prince any more. Oh I guess
         | Prince, while still Prince, had the right to gift everything to
         | the new person same as to a child or anyone else, but then that
         | comes with a pretty big tax which I bet he didn't pay at the
         | time of this massive transaction.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | I assume then you feel the same way about Musk's kid's names?
        
             | Brian_K_White wrote:
             | They claim not to have any names at all?
             | 
             | They retain claim on any rights of being a Musk family
             | member?
             | 
             | If either of those then yes of course. But that's not the
             | case is it?
        
               | dylan604 wrote:
               | > They claim not to have any names at all?
               | 
               | Talking about little bobby drop tables. name = NULL would
               | at least be disaster safe.
               | 
               | > They retain claim on any rights of being a Musk family
               | member?
               | 
               | I don't know. It sounds like Musk would love to not claim
               | rights as family members to avoid having to provide
               | support. He's not as rich of a man as he was last week.
               | poor guy
        
         | myself248 wrote:
         | In practice I just remember him being referred to as TAFKAP in
         | places you couldn't load custom fonts. Simple, unique,
         | immediately memorable after first expansion, and doesn't
         | require your BBS terminal to support TrueType.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | I just kept calling him Prince.
        
       | badlibrarian wrote:
       | > "I was talking about chat groups and chatting and meeting
       | people online and he seemed confused by it"
       | 
       | Imagine if he made a dating site.
        
       | bombcar wrote:
       | A big part of why it worked for him was not only that he was real
       | famous, but the whole technology world in the area was new, _and_
       | he was the first to do it.
       | 
       | If everyone started doing it, people would quickly begin ignoring
       | it, or a standard Unicode mechanism would have been developed.
       | 
       | And now, his name has reverted to Prince.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Discussed at the time (of the article):
       | 
       |  _The Legend of Prince's Special Custom-Font Symbol Floppy Disks_
       | - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11600091 - April 2016 (18
       | comments)
        
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