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Launching the BeOS on Hitachi Flora Prius Systems (1999)
Author : doener
Score : 32 points
Date : 2025-06-08 14:46 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| doener wrote:
| Via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| Launching from Windows is funny. Reminds me of GRUB4DOS and
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(software) even if the
| particulars differ.
| AshamedCaptain wrote:
| This article is not complete without the reminder that this
| entire dance of instructions was required because MS would not
| allow a Windows OEM licensor to ship ANY customer-facing computer
| that would offer the option to boot BeOS via a pre-loaded
| bootloader or similar.
|
| https://www.zdnet.com/article/be-stings-microsoft-with-lawsu...
|
| > Be outlines its tortured history of trying to get its operating
| system included on machines from major computer makers, most
| notably Compaq Computer and Hitachi.
|
| > Be said that in September 1998, Hitachi verbally committed to
| loading the BeOS alongside Windows on a line of PCs. Be had
| planned to offer software that would easily let computer owners
| choose between the two operating systems, but said it was
| notified by Hitachi in November 1998 that Microsoft's licensing
| deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such an approach.
|
| > Although Hitachi eventually sold some PCs with the BeOS loaded
| on the hard drive, Be said the operating system had to be started
| from a floppy disk, and the machines bore no indication that they
| even came with the operating system.
| AtlasBarfed wrote:
| That's the state of antitrust in the US: openly State publicly
| anti-competitive language and documents...
|
| Zero chance of any enforcement.
|
| It's kind of hilarious seeing hacker news report on what the EU
| does. "Can you believe these ridiculous requirements" says
| Hacker News.
|
| Yes. Yes I can believe that
| yardie wrote:
| > it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998 that Microsoft's
| licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such an
| approach.
|
| For those too young to remember, this is what the anti-trust
| case against Microsoft was actually about. Internet Explorer,
| while important, was just a small part of the Microsoft's
| monopolistic practice of absolutely fucking over developers,
| other OSes (including Linux) and consumer choice. It's mildly
| infuriating now to hear about the bad old Microsoft not being
| allowed to give end users the best browser available, knowing
| that was just the tip of the iceberg.
| codr7 wrote:
| Imo they had already lost at this point.
|
| Sad, I used BeOS full time for a few glorious months right after
| the Intel pivot. Reminded me of my Amiga days.
| Aldipower wrote:
| May I ask what your tasks were you did with BeOS. Just curios.
| drooopy wrote:
| I played quite a bit with that free intel version they came out
| with back in 98? 99? Shame that my internal modem wasn't
| working and I couldn't get on the internet with it.
| doublerabbit wrote:
| And from BeOS Haiku lives on.
|
| If you haven't you should check it out.
|
| https://haiku-os.org
|
| It without all the X and Wayland mess it's a good alternative for
| an operating system.
| jonah-archive wrote:
| This is an utterly random question, and I'm sure there's a better
| place to ask it, but does anyone reading this happen to have/know
| the logic analyzer pinout [0] on the BeBox mainboard? I got a
| weird rackmount BeBox (an LCS LD-CS1, the controller for their
| LD-88 audio mixer [1]) and have been rebuilding the blinkenlight
| board, but I'd love to drop an Agilent on there at some point.
|
| 0:
| https://bebits.irixnet.org/beos/docs/DR8/UserDoc/DR8UsersGui...
| "The pin-out for the logic probe interface is available upon
| request from Be, Inc. Be can supply a card and analyzer set-up
| libraries that connect the CPU bus to an HP 1660A."
|
| 1:
| http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/de...
| detourdog wrote:
| It's been a while but are you talking about the "Geekport"
|
| https://www.beunited.org/bebook/
|
| The Nike store on 57th street in Manhattan was powered by a
| BeBox. I forget if it ever actually worked. The original
| developer was replaced by Kandu and I remember them thinking it
| was trouble. Kandu was famous for hating anything more complex
| than MS-DOS. We worked on a project where they claimed to have
| rewritten most of DOS.
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