[HN Gopher] Tesla seeks to block city of Austin from releasing r...
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       Tesla seeks to block city of Austin from releasing records on
       robotaxi trial
        
       Author : nixass
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2025-06-06 20:25 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.reuters.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.reuters.com)
        
       | WalterGR wrote:
       | Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44186780 which is
       | about a slightly different article:
       | 
       | Tesla seeks to guard crash data from public disclosure
       | (reuters.com)
       | 
       | 501 points | by kklisura | 1 day ago | 443 comments
        
       | taylodl wrote:
       | If you want to operate autonomous vehicles on public roads, you
       | don't get to hide behind corporate secrecy. Public infrastructure
       | demands public accountability. Trying to block the release of
       | first crash data nationwide and now robotaxi trial data in Austin
       | isn't just anti-transparency, it's anti-public interest.
       | 
       | You want the privilege of using public roads? Then you play by
       | public rules.
        
         | pedalpete wrote:
         | Though I agree mostly with your sentiments, I'll play devils
         | advocate a bit.
         | 
         | Why would autonomous vehicles be treated any differently then
         | human operated vehicles?
         | 
         | The article unfortunately does not say what data is being
         | required to be made public, but it does suggest that it is
         | proprietary information, not specifically all information.
         | 
         | Crash information, I believe, is public information anyway.
         | Perhaps not the intimate details of each crash, but the
         | location, speed, etc, for both human and autonomous vehicles is
         | (or should be) publicly available. There are definitely
         | datasets for crash incidents, and there are rules regarding
         | reporting of crashes in autonomous vehicles, which Cruise (I
         | believe) failed to abide by and eventually led to GM shutting
         | it down.
         | 
         | If the details were around the methods Tesla is using to assign
         | robotaxis to certain areas and manage charge levels, should
         | that be public knowledge if they have some special proprietary
         | algorithms they feel are valuable?
        
       | infamouscow wrote:
       | I'll submit a Texas FOIA as well, so we'll likely get a
       | simultaneous response.
       | 
       | The only difference is I'll publish them on some .ai tld.
        
       | jqpabc123 wrote:
       | Do you really want to trust a company that seeks to keep it's
       | safety record secret?
       | 
       | Consumer relations, rapport and trust does not seem to be Musk's
       | strong suit. Maybe he should stick with politics and government
       | contracts.
        
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