[HN Gopher] Silicon Valley finally has a big electronics retaile...
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       Silicon Valley finally has a big electronics retailer again: Micro
       Center opens
        
       Author : modeless
       Score  : 275 points
       Date   : 2025-05-30 22:24 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | modeless wrote:
       | It's been more than four years since Fry's closed. I can't
       | believe it took this long to get something better than Best Buy
       | and bigger than Central Computers, in the middle of Silicon
       | Valley of all places!
        
         | mosdl wrote:
         | We had a Microcenter that closed in 2012, took them that long
         | to return.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | Who in Silicon Valley uses actual computers and not something
         | in the cloud? Do any start ups use actual hardware that you'd
         | get at some place like MicroCenter? Don't they just get handed
         | shiny new Apple hardware (something from HP/Dell if they're on
         | a budget) to interface with the cloud?
        
           | tdeck wrote:
           | I think many of the employees have gaming rigs at home and
           | would buy parts there.
        
             | Nextgrid wrote:
             | You'd be surprised by how many "tech" people have no clue
             | on about how to build a rig, nor have any willingness to
             | learn.
        
           | vladgur wrote:
           | Youre not wrong.
           | 
           | I have a pc with 24GB 3090 card capable of running LLMs
           | locally, but our electricity costs make API calls much more
           | reasonable.
           | 
           | Even gaming -- streaming geforce now is cheaper than
           | ammortizing cost of power + hardware over time
        
             | john01dav wrote:
             | For my personal use, I'll take the hit in cost for the
             | additional control that owning the hardware gives me. Even
             | less restrictive things like blocking sideloading are
             | unacceptable to me.
        
             | jzer0cool wrote:
             | Cost break down please
        
           | dimator wrote:
           | The store has lots of other tech enthusiast stuff, like a
           | huge selection of 3D printers.
        
             | geerlingguy wrote:
             | And a full aisle of electronics / hobbyist gear, including
             | decent soldering stations, fluke gear, tons of components,
             | and a good smattering of SparkFun and Adafruit's catalog.
        
           | nickthegreek wrote:
           | They have great small business machines and more importantly,
           | everything you need without waiting for amazon. Their in-
           | house prebuilt brand PowerSpec have great prices for the
           | hardware and work nicely whether you go for a gaming version
           | or office build.
        
           | kanbara wrote:
           | silicon valley-ite here: we have normal gaming machines and
           | linux boxen too ...
        
         | Hizonner wrote:
         | I get the feeling the real Fry's died long before that. It
         | seemed like it was going downhill when I left the area about 18
         | years ago. Less parts, less tools, less test equipment, more
         | packaged gadgets.
        
           | NelsonMinar wrote:
           | Yeah Fry's was pretty awful.
        
           | tgma wrote:
           | Fry's had an interesting vibe and felt you time traveled to
           | the 90s, but my gosh they were so weird. They searched your
           | bag on the way out. Microcenter is a godsend although it'll
           | be hard to beat B&H with Payboo card.
        
             | tecleandor wrote:
             | I only use B&H site for checking general prices or reviews,
             | as they won't stop discriminating people.
             | 
             | A discrimination lawsuit almost every year since 2009.
             | 
             | https://www.thephoblographer.com/2024/07/09/bh-photo-
             | lawsuit...
        
               | tgma wrote:
               | Not really familiar with their internal affairs but as a
               | retailer they have been nothing but great in my
               | experience as the customer. In the end, any large company
               | will at some point be accused of certain things, rightly
               | or wrongly, and I am willing to bet larger retailers
               | simply have an easier time paying off the complaints
               | before we hear about them. I mean, the primary
               | alternative for me would be Amazon, which won't win any
               | prizes from me in employee affairs dimension, I can tell
               | you that.
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | I think a lot of that was following what sold. If nobody is
           | buying these things at Fry's, it doesn't make sense for them
           | to stock them.
           | 
           | IMHO, there was a drop in good deals around the time they got
           | rid of the purchaser who was doing the embezzleing (2008),
           | and also new stores started opening with 'boring corporate
           | store' theme ('new' sunnyvale store, vegas). If I'm gonna be
           | at a boring corporate store and not getting good deals, why
           | bother?
           | 
           | Then there was the year? or so of circling the drain when
           | there was some sort of credit problem and they tried to
           | switch from owning inventory to a consignment model and most
           | of their vendors weren't interested so they had no inventory.
        
           | hakfoo wrote:
           | TBH, I've been hoping they make a Wolf of Wall Street style
           | movie about the store. There was obviously kooky stuff going
           | on business wise, and that means there could be an
           | entertaining story.
        
         | awful wrote:
         | Agreed; went into Fry's, off Lawrence?, just before it closed.
         | Visited area on and off again over the years since. Central
         | Computer did seem to have what I needed for that moment, but
         | the area seemed barren, was simply not the same, and especially
         | after experiencing Fry's, Weird Stuff, Halted?, Anchor,
         | Computer Literacy, et al. in the late 1980s and 90s.
        
           | ts4z wrote:
           | Hear hear. I guess we still have Anchor.
        
         | delfinom wrote:
         | PC hardware is a competitive and margin tight business,
         | especially due to online sales. At the same time, the inventory
         | can be very expensive on the books. It makes the calculus for
         | viability of a physical store quite challenging. It's why
         | Microcenter has relatively few stores for the US.
        
         | Animats wrote:
         | I've been happy with Central Computer. Three machines and two
         | repairs in ten years.
        
       | orionblastar wrote:
       | Microcenter is what Radio Shack should have become.
        
         | macNchz wrote:
         | It was founded by two Radio Shack employees!
        
           | jbaber wrote:
           | That explains a lot.
        
         | myself248 wrote:
         | And we all watched Radio Shack run face-first into the same
         | wall, over and over and over and over. The market was exploding
         | and it was theirs to lose, and boy did they ever.
        
           | Spooky23 wrote:
           | I worked at a CompUSA in high school and college. The money
           | was around the PC sale, which was pretty high margin until
           | around 1998/9. I'd come in in the morning before class to do
           | freight... one time we built a pyramid of about 300 PCs.
           | 
           | It was a money machine until it wasn't.
           | 
           | Radio Shack has to sell everything, couldn't offer a good
           | variety of devices, and didn't have the staff to support
           | people with complicated PC purchases. If cell phones blew up
           | earlier radio shack would still be around.
        
         | walterbell wrote:
         | For reboot of US mainline electronics manufacturing, we need a
         | video comparing US electronic parts retail with Shenzen
         | electronic parts retail.
        
       | absurdo wrote:
       | I am afraid of asking but what does Sayal classify as? I figured
       | it would take negative time for someone to post Radio Shack in
       | commentary because it's basically a knee jerk reaction, but I do
       | appreciate a store like Sayal although they're proper electronics
       | parts seller. These stores are more like finished product
       | distributors. Maybe I'm too picky.
        
         | tdeck wrote:
         | I haven't heard of Sayal, but there is Anchor Electronics in
         | Santa Clara that sells what I would think you're looking for.
         | 
         | In my mind microcenter mostly sells PC parts that you plug in
         | or stick into a card slot, although apparently they do also
         | sell some electronics components a hobbyist might solder to a
         | board.
        
           | absurdo wrote:
           | > Anchor Electronics in Santa Clara
           | 
           | Looks about right! I thought Sayal was scattered across US so
           | my bad :l
           | 
           | A big box product store opening that sells plug and play
           | stuff is to me, personally, not worthy of bearing the title
           | Electronics. It's not news worthy for hackers. I could say
           | that out of smugness but very often I'm confronted with sales
           | staff that don't know much about what they're selling, and I
           | end up (playfully?) educating them about the products, so I
           | suspect this would be much the same.
           | 
           | The "Maker" space as it's called today is amazing but I guess
           | done to death so nobody talks about it?
           | 
           | There are of course no real contenders today that warrant
           | bringing up Radio Shack in any way (but people still do as if
           | it's relevant). RS put a gorilla's weight behind teaching
           | people how to fish that when they left, they left a massive
           | cultural void that nobody has since filled and is unlikely to
           | fill. The world has moved on.
        
             | HorizonXP wrote:
             | Can you link to Sayal?
             | 
             | Because I'm in Toronto, grew up here, have lived in SF/Bay,
             | back when Fry's was around.
             | 
             | Sayal in Toronto was my go to electronics store. I didn't
             | realize they were in the US? Unless it's a different one.
        
             | II2II wrote:
             | Like it or not, and I'm in the not category, most people
             | conflate electronics with consumer electronics. It is just
             | something we have to deal with.
             | 
             | That said, a big box computer retailer is worth something.
             | For the most part, I've found that sales people know
             | something about computers. Contrast that to general
             | consumer electronics stores where sales people know nothing
             | about everything. If you know what you want, they also tend
             | to be better than smaller computer stores. In that case,
             | you're basically paying someone to do mail order for you.
        
           | modeless wrote:
           | Anchor Electronics is totally awesome. Very small but very
           | interesting collection of stuff that you definitely won't
           | find at any other store that still exists in the Bay Area.
        
       | yahoozoo wrote:
       | At first I was impressed with the number of people lined up to go
       | in the store. Then I realized every single person was just an
       | employee.
        
         | datavirtue wrote:
         | I live next to the Cincinnati store and have been going there
         | for more than thirty years. There are people waiting at the
         | door every morning when it opens and it is swamped with people
         | from open to close.
         | 
         | The service is unmatched by any retailer.
        
           | yahoozoo wrote:
           | That's cool, I'll just use Amazon and wait 1 extra day though
        
         | dimator wrote:
         | Other micro centers have a ton of employees so I'm not
         | surprised. They're actually knowledgeable and helpful, the
         | opposite of what Fry's had. And they're everywhere, not in a
         | pushy sense, but just available.
        
           | nickthegreek wrote:
           | They also earn commission and are motivated to help you. I've
           | actually had employees replace items I had chosen to save me
           | cash. You don't see service like that often.
        
         | khazhoux wrote:
         | The third photo isn't employees
        
       | Braxton1980 wrote:
       | I'm lucky to be about 10 mins away from the one in Westchester
       | NY.
       | 
       | They have a dedicated asile to custom water cooling items which
       | shows how serious they are about enthusiasts.
       | 
       | I used to order my new set ups on Newegg but now I just got to
       | Microcenter
        
         | nvllsvm wrote:
         | Same for me and the Wayne, PA store. Prices are competitive and
         | they're one of the few places I know that carries Bawls energy
         | drinks.
        
         | stevenwoo wrote:
         | Newegg has deteriorated in my experience and now not materially
         | different from Amazon, with wrong items shipped and multiple
         | dropshippers commingling inventory so provenance of stuff is
         | questionable. Do not recommend.
        
           | somat wrote:
           | It is a shame.
           | 
           | I think the tipping point was newegg the store vs newegg the
           | marketplace.
           | 
           | Newegg "the store" was pretty great, newegg "the marketplace"
           | not so much. And unlike amazon at least newegg tells you who
           | the seller is and keeps a big "only show results from the
           | newegg store" filter present. but even despite that the store
           | is not nearly as great as it once was.
           | 
           | I wonder if there is anything left of amazon "the store",
           | perhaps if you buy a book? Or has amazon "the marketplace"
           | consumed everything.
        
           | dpiers wrote:
           | Amazon has surpassed Newegg as my online parts provider of
           | choice.
           | 
           | It's not that things can't go wrong, it's just that they are
           | much better at handling it than Newegg these days.
        
           | bradfa wrote:
           | Totally agree. 20ish years ago Newegg was my one stop for
           | computing purchases online. Now I just use it to gauge
           | pricing as I find their search and filtering to still be the
           | best.
           | 
           | Most of my online computing purchases now come from B&H in
           | New York City. Super fast shipping and I've never had a bad
           | order experience.
        
             | raisedbyninjas wrote:
             | Newegg was purchased by a Chinese investment firm about 10
             | years ago. It's like Walmart.com reseller marketplace over
             | there ever since. I definitely visit my local Microcenter
             | when they have it in stock. They also have a "one time use"
             | coupon for $10 3d printer filament.
        
       | redwood wrote:
       | I miss Fry's
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | I miss WeirdStuff.
        
           | redwood wrote:
           | How about HalTech?
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | Yeah, Haltek was great. A friend had a knack for finding
             | valuable stuff -- would go into Haltek and come out with a
             | dozen of some obscure digital numerical display from the
             | mid 70's or whatever.
        
           | dehrmann wrote:
           | I remember strolling through there and seeing all the weird
           | hardware childhood me drooled over. Adult me did not walk out
           | with a Snappy video capture thingy or a Jaz drive.
        
             | duskwuff wrote:
             | I walked through the store on their last day and was amazed
             | at just how much unalloyed junk they had on the shelves -
             | boxes of unidentified circuit boards with bent connectors
             | and components broken off, shelves of empty binders, etc.
             | Lots of neat, weird old stuff, but a lot of things which no
             | one would ever buy.
        
         | JoshTriplett wrote:
         | I miss Incredible Universe.
        
       | epoxyhockey wrote:
       | The store had pre-opening for the past 2 days. I drove by on
       | Wednesday and the parking lot was completely full with folks
       | parking across the street and walking over. I thought I would be
       | able to stroll in and get the free USB drive but ended up not
       | able to visit yet. Talk about pent up demand!
        
         | sm_1024 wrote:
         | Interesting part is they have actually been open for a week
         | now. They did a quiet opening on the 25th and it was still busy
         | that day
        
       | blindriver wrote:
       | When did Microcenter re-gain its popularity? I remember when it
       | was around before it closed down, beside AMC Mercado, and the
       | prices were crazy expensive even back then. Did they somehow
       | lower their prices?
        
         | datavirtue wrote:
         | Their shoppers are all on the savvy scale and could easily use
         | their prime membership to buy parts on Amazon, but they don't.
         | 
         | If the customer isn't savvy the knowledgeable customer service
         | adds a lot of value.
        
           | tschwimmer wrote:
           | I am a "savvy shopper" and have no desire to buy components
           | on Amazon anymore. Their stock co-mingling doesn't work for
           | speciality computer components. I've received items marked as
           | new that were clearly open box returns. I've received
           | completely nonfunctional components. I've received the wrong
           | item a few times. The component I've had the most success
           | with are SSDs, but for anything beyond that I prefer to buy
           | from brick and mortar because of their "curation." To be
           | honest, it's a shame because the Amazon shopping experience
           | is vastly superior but they send you crap, so it's unusable
           | for this vertical. I still buy other junk from Amazon, but
           | nothing that's particularly performance sensitive.
        
         | lotsofpulp wrote:
         | A lot of the physical open to the public stores took a beating
         | before South Dakota v Wayfair was decided in June 2018, since
         | it was trivial to spend ~7% less by shopping from a website
         | with a presence outside of your state.
         | 
         | I doubt Microcenter ever expands to the number of locations
         | that BestBuy /circuit city/compusa/etc had, but it might have
         | enough of a market for one or two locations in the top 10 to 20
         | metros.
        
         | dminvs wrote:
         | I always liked going to well-stocked stores and browsing for
         | stuff. That was Fry's until they shot themselves in the foot.
         | 
         | Micro Center might not be optimal on price, but sometimes you
         | just want to wander a store full of cool stuff and maybe walk
         | out with something you didn't expect, instead of another
         | anonymous box of schmutz from Amazon or wherever
        
           | ryao wrote:
           | Unfortunately, Microcenter's selection often leaves me
           | disappointed. In particular, they stock almost no ECC RAM for
           | AM5 machines. They do not stock many graphics cards that have
           | ECC VRAM either. Their best card in stock that has ECC VRAM
           | is this nearly obsolete ampere card:
           | 
           | https://www.microcenter.com/product/652517/pny-nvidia-
           | rtx-a4...
        
             | washadjeffmad wrote:
             | I get it, but as "professional" grade equipment, most
             | customers would acquire that through their employers'
             | vendors.
             | 
             | It also depends on your local market; my location seems to
             | carry more server and HEDT gear than others (they stock
             | more A- and W-series GPUs than 5090s, at least). They've
             | also purchased things I've requested, like ECC DRAM for my
             | Threadripper, which I also purchased from them.
        
         | bsder wrote:
         | > When did Microcenter re-gain its popularity?
         | 
         | When online became infested with counterfeits and opened
         | returns with no way to distinguish.
         | 
         | Anyone ordering computer parts from Amazon is just asking to
         | get fleeced nowadays.
        
         | bdcravens wrote:
         | I think the explosion of 3D printing has a lot to do with it.
        
       | av3csr wrote:
       | Was nice seeing that the 5090 exists, but boy, those prices.
        
       | a_e_k wrote:
       | Now if we could only get one near Seattle!
       | 
       | (I've never really understood why a tech hub as large and
       | historical as Seattle doesn't have one. It's weird that it's such
       | a relative desert.)
        
         | asteroidburger wrote:
         | There's already a bunch of vacant Walgreens / Rite Aid /
         | Bartell Drugs locations, with more to come. Surely one of the
         | bigger ones would be adequate.
        
         | devilbunny wrote:
         | Interesting. I've never shopped at one; though my home is near
         | the intersection of two interstates, I'd have to drive about 7
         | hours to get to one. You're even worse off!
         | 
         | It appears that the pole of inaccessibility for Micro Center
         | for a place in the lower 48 on an interstate is around Spokane
         | to Missoula (Santa Clara vs Denver), but that's only about 3
         | hours' longer drive than you would have.
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | The Micro Center in Cambridge, MA, has improved a lot over the
       | years.
       | 
       | When they have the thing that I want, I'd prefer to go there,
       | rather than order online.
       | 
       | Also, I've never seen opened returns re-shinkwrapped and sold
       | again as new at Micro Center, unlike in stories about Fry's.
       | There are some wire shelves where opened returns are sold at a
       | small discount, clearly labeled.
       | 
       | Incidentally, would be nice to also have a good surplus and
       | e-cycling store browsing adventure in town. But I guess the
       | economics are difficult, when real estate is so expensive, and
       | most of the few customers for unusual stuff are online. (That
       | local hobbyists could save a lot of money on shipping cost of
       | decommissioned corporate and lab gear, or make impulse purchases
       | they wouldn't online, probably isn't enough, I'd guess.)
        
         | arprocter wrote:
         | >When they have the thing that I want, I'd prefer to go there,
         | rather than order online.
         | 
         | Worth mentioning that they price match Amazon
         | 
         | I bought a CPU cooler there a few months back - the guy at
         | checkout told me to pull up the Amazon listing on my phone so
         | he could knock some cash off
         | 
         | https://community.microcenter.com/kb/articles/6-do-you-price...
        
           | 3eb7988a1663 wrote:
           | How is that possible? Amazon has to have lower overheads than
           | a brick and mortar.
        
             | fzzzy wrote:
             | They hope you'll buy a soda and a magazine or whatever.
             | They always try to upsell protection plans.
        
             | neilv wrote:
             | I don't recall ever asking for a price match at a
             | brick&mortar, even though I'm aware it's available at some
             | stores. I'd guess most people don't.
             | 
             | The store gets some mileage out of being known for price-
             | matching competitors (even online competitors, where that'd
             | be a bit much).
             | 
             | (Well, occasionally I have questioned in-store, when a
             | major chain shows one price on the Web, available at a
             | specific brick&mortar location, but when you get to that
             | location, there's a much higher price on the shelf. Now I
             | tend to order for pickup at those stores, which is more
             | work for them, just to lock in the Web-advertised price,
             | rather than the switcheroo price.)
        
               | YZF wrote:
               | In Canada Staples will also price match Amazon.
        
               | erkt wrote:
               | I will make stores price match anything and everything. I
               | also look at every item on my grocery check out to make
               | sure the price is exactly what the shelf said. I concede
               | no ground to fine print sales expiration dates. However,
               | I am a freak when it comes to remembering these things
               | after a decade of business purchasing and I did my fair
               | share of taking advantage of the consumer.
               | 
               | I frankly enjoy fighting stores on pricing and get
               | dopamine from a good deal and it pains me to pay more
               | than necessary even if I can afford it just fine. I
               | understand not everyone is like this.
               | 
               | There was a period a year or two ago where if you leaked
               | cookies and ad tracking to Amazon and deliberately
               | clicked through to competing sites their algorithm would
               | aggressively slash pricing far below MSRP. I admit I
               | would use this technique in microcenter to get Amazon to
               | give me ludicrously cheap pricing then turn around and
               | make them price match for instant gratification.
               | 
               | Retail/amazon operate at a much higher margin than most
               | people realize.
        
               | lotsofpulp wrote:
               | >Retail/amazon operate at a much higher margin than most
               | people realize.
               | 
               | Then why don't their 10-Ks and 10-Qs show it? There is a
               | reason it has a reputation of being a cutthroat business.
               | Out of all the big retail businesses, only Home
               | Depot/Lowes has 8%+ profit margins, and Apple obviously.
               | 
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               | health/net...
        
             | walterbell wrote:
             | Best Buy will price match competitor websites and printed
             | ads, via online chat, for online delivery or in-store
             | pickup.
        
             | roughly wrote:
             | Amazon prices what they can get away with, not what their
             | costs are. Jeff Bezos's rocketry hobby is a testament to
             | Amazon's ability to extract surplus.
        
               | kaonwarb wrote:
               | Almost everyone prices that way - that is how supply and
               | demand works.
               | 
               | Bezos's wealth is ~100% due to stock appreciation, which
               | in turn is tied much more closely to AWS than to the
               | consumer store.
        
             | kadoban wrote:
             | If every person price matched every item, they'd be
             | screwed, but: most people don't, many items just can't be,
             | and if eg you're price matching a $20 cpu cooler, you may
             | also be buying a $500 cpu or a bunch of other components
             | that they'll actually make money on.
        
               | roughly wrote:
               | This is also why different stores have different skus for
               | items - that $20 coolermaster 40mm with red LEDs is
               | cm40rl-w at Walmart and cm40rl-a at Amazon.
        
               | erkt wrote:
               | Retailers will absolutely budge on this technicality,
               | this is to disarm those that aren't aggressive.
               | Everyone's retail margins are wayyyyyy higher than they
               | want the consumer to believe and their holding costs are
               | non-negligible.
        
               | ryao wrote:
               | I thought the purpose of that was to let them avoid price
               | matching on certain items despite having price matching
               | policies. I have never heard of one budging on this. Have
               | any?
        
               | fuzzfactor wrote:
               | It's also so you can't buy the "same" item a year or more
               | later after yours is out of warranty.
               | 
               | Which some people were known to do, and then return their
               | old unit in the new box for a refund.
               | 
               | So model numbers are sometimes changed far more freqently
               | than device characteristics or features are changed.
        
             | ryao wrote:
             | Stores often refuse to stock products unless they are given
             | a comfortable enough margin on them that can be as high as
             | 25%. That is how they can afford to do deals on CPUs to
             | draw people into the store. Amazon also has overhead in
             | shipping costs to customers that the brick and mortar store
             | does not, since they receive goods in bulk that amortizes
             | costs. They both also want as much money as they can get
             | out of the customer, so they have little reason to lower
             | pricing upfront unless they think that it will help them
             | get even more money (like how microcenter cuts prices on
             | CPUs since they expect to make it up on everything else you
             | need to build a PC).
        
               | fuzzfactor wrote:
               | Microcenter is a surviving personal computer retailer
               | from the DOS days.
               | 
               | Seemed like they were intentionally flexible enough at
               | the beginning so they would be able to go forward with
               | any and all manufacturers that might turn out to prevail,
               | back when nobody knew for sure.
               | 
               | Whether the future would more strongly include Apple, IBM
               | compatibles, or any other alternatives which have come &
               | went.
               | 
               | It was a "superstore" by design, decades before Walmart
               | got there through its unavoidable momentum.
               | 
               | The vast majority of items do need to fly off the shelf,
               | but it's best not to purge too much of everything else.
               | The smartest operators can actually stock a larger number
               | of slower-moving items too.
               | 
               | Also I have seen some affordable stock pulled from the
               | shelves and online like smaller capacity SATA SSDs, after
               | higher-capacity or more modern units naturally replace
               | them as technology progresses. Looks like they mark down
               | the less-modern units, or they won't move at all, and
               | those can then end up at the point where further markdown
               | would be below cost. All remaining stock disappears to a
               | liquidator, which are more common than ever these days.
               | Just when you thought it was really going to get good. It
               | used to be easier to browse for "stragglers" that were
               | too expensive when first released, if you waited a year
               | or two those prices could be really slashed when more
               | modern versions took over the mainstream, if you could
               | find any stock remaining.
               | 
               | I drive right by the one in Houston almost every week
               | where you can see the store conveniently a block away
               | from the freeway, only sometimes for that same reason the
               | traffic can get so bad that it's a 20 minute ordeal
               | getting back out of the parking lot, down that block, and
               | back on the freeway :\
               | 
               | So sometimes I'll wait a few weeks before just dropping
               | in, but it's also always been good to have when you need
               | something right away.
               | 
               | Except recently when I knew exactly what I wanted, a 2TB
               | SATA laptop HDD, not an SSD for this particular PC. I
               | still had a 1TB NIB in my storage unit from a few years
               | ago when I picked up a couple but only used one at the
               | time.
               | 
               | Well, these days they had _nothing_. Except a few items
               | of one SKU that was your typical modern garbagey SMR HDD,
               | which modern SMR is miserably sluggish (you know, like a
               | snail without a shell) by comparison to regular HDDs from
               | previous decades (which were all conventional CMR until
               | some SMR bozo came along). SMR is very frustrating even
               | for long-term storage, and _completely useless_ in a
               | laptop. Give me a break.
               | 
               | Had to then go to the storage unit and dig out the 1TB
               | one I already had.
               | 
               | Nobody's fault but mine for shopping and trying to be a
               | consumer when it's not absolutely necessary :\
        
             | neepi wrote:
             | Amazon pricing isn't always that good and they lie about
             | the discounts and retail prices, at least here in the UK.
             | My US colleagues tell me the same is true in the US. I've
             | actually found that general high street crap seller Argos
             | here tends to have better retail prices than Amazon. I can
             | just amble on down the road and get what I needed same day
             | pick up in person rather than wait for a delivery to turn
             | up.
        
             | seattle_spring wrote:
             | It's not too uncommon for retail stores to match Amazon, as
             | long as it's specifically both "sold by Amazon" and
             | "shipped by Amazon". Best Buy does too, for example.
        
             | Spooky23 wrote:
             | Not anymore. That massive logistics network and in house
             | courier ain't cheap.
        
         | syntheticnature wrote:
         | Not quite the same as storefront surplus, but:
         | https://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit/
        
         | don-code wrote:
         | I was literally just there an hour ago, buying $800 worth of
         | gear for a Wi-Fi mesh buildout.
         | 
         | Could I have gotten it cheaper online? Probably. But when you
         | have 36 hours notice that you need to build out Wi-Fi, you
         | can't beat Micro Center.
        
           | bitwize wrote:
           | A company I worked for provisioned all its software dev
           | machines from Micro Center. That's how I'd heard of it.
        
         | tapoxi wrote:
         | That store is dangerous. The last few times I went "just to
         | browse" but I came home with an ultra wide monitor and a new PC
         | build.
         | 
         | I've started buying parts retail instead of online just because
         | of how much I enjoy Microcenter. The interior does need a bit
         | of a renovation though, it looks almost identical to how it did
         | in the 90s.
        
           | john01dav wrote:
           | 90s anachronism is a perfectly valid aesthetic. I dislike the
           | tendency to think that things must constantly be changed for
           | purely aesthetic reasons. This tendency was intentionally
           | created in order to sell more things -- look up the history
           | of Ford and Alfred Sloan for details.
        
           | walterbell wrote:
           | _> identical to how it did in the 90s_
           | 
           | Are 1990s customers and their children in Microcenter target
           | market?
           | 
           | Should the next Microcenter aesthetic be 2000s, 2010s, 2020s
           | or 2090s?
        
             | mnky9800n wrote:
             | 3090s.
        
           | khazhoux wrote:
           | > The last few times I went "just to browse" but I came home
           | with an ultra wide monitor and a new PC build.
           | 
           | Wow, that sounds like a great day!
           | 
           | > The interior does need a bit of a renovation though, it
           | looks almost identical to how it did in the 90s.
           | 
           | I think it would really bring me joy if I walked in and they
           | were playing early 90s Beck, Soundgarden, Letters To Cleo...
        
           | ryao wrote:
           | If it is not broken, do not fix it. Renovations would cost
           | money, which would mean higher prices. It is better to stick
           | with what works than see prices rise to cover pointless
           | renovations that would harm their competitiveness. The money
           | is better spent on expansion that would pay for itself.
        
           | mnky9800n wrote:
           | Dude don't update it. Do you really want it to look like Best
           | Buy? Because that's the ad company they will hire to remake
           | their brand. But it will be even more of that.
        
         | stutstev wrote:
         | Considering New Hampshire's lack of sales tax, I'm patiently
         | waiting for Micro Center to establish a new presence in Nashua
         | or Salem. The Cambridge location, while personally cherished,
         | isn't that accessible by car because of Boston's stress-induced
         | car traffic congestion. Even on foot, getting to the store is
         | still a bit of a journey. Also, let's not forget Massachusetts'
         | 6.25% sales tax.
         | 
         | In New Hampshire, I am positive Micro Center would attract
         | customers from all over New England and make an absolute
         | killing from sales, potentially overshadowing their Cambridge
         | profits. I would never shop online or in Cambridge for hardware
         | again. But, I'm sure they wish not to jeopardize the Cambridge
         | store or their MIT and Boston tech hobbyist clientele.
         | Otherwise, I am surprised they have not yet acted upon this
         | idea.
         | 
         | But, a man can dream!
        
           | sfilmeyer wrote:
           | Comments like this remind me I might be the only person in
           | Massachusetts honestly calculating my use tax for my tax
           | return every year.
        
             | seattle_spring wrote:
             | Probably one of the only people in the country.
        
           | lotsofpulp wrote:
           | Google maps says Salem is 40min+ from Cambridge, and Nashua
           | is 50min+ from Cambridge, and add another 10min to 20min from
           | other parts of Boston.
           | 
           | Each minute of driving costs at least $0.67 (from IRS),
           | excluding increased morbidity and mortality risks (injury
           | from car collisions is the top health risk for most
           | Americans).
           | 
           | So even using $0.50 per minute of driving, if you are only
           | going to NH to evade sales tax, that is 80min*$0.50cents =
           | $40. $40/0.0625 =$640.
           | 
           | So the first $640 of the purchase doesn't even save you any
           | money (even more for most Bostonians further than Cambridge),
           | and it costs you 1 to 2 hours of your life driving back and
           | forth. If you value your leisure time at at least $100 per
           | hour, then you're looking at spending at least $2,200 for the
           | tax evasion to start paying off.
           | 
           | I'm just positing why Microcenter will not open a NH location
           | anytime soon, because most of its customers (who are in
           | Boston metro) won't find that it pays off to travel to NH.
        
             | slumberlust wrote:
             | Tax free weekends exist in MA as well, yet a lot of people
             | still travel across the state line to buy tax free items
             | like booze.
             | 
             | It's not always logical, but sometimes you find yourself
             | outside of the city or heading north to be wilderness and
             | the value prop changes if you're already heading that way.
             | 
             | I agree that MC won't open one here, as we can't even get
             | an IKEA closer than Stoughton.
        
           | Spooky23 wrote:
           | My favorite store like this is the Apple Store in the
           | pheasant Lane mall - the parking lot is in Massachusetts,
           | stores are in NH.
        
         | vjulian wrote:
         | Oh God. I wish the sales clerks would leave me alone. They're
         | always trying to put their sticker on purchases and proffer
         | useless advice. Still, it's the best in the area, and the
         | Trader Joe's is a draw. I bought my first computer, an Apple
         | //gs at Micro Center at their original, single location.
        
           | behringer wrote:
           | They're not there for you, they're there for your grandma.
           | They also get paid terribly, let them put their little
           | stickers on. You never know when they might return the favor.
        
             | fuzzfactor wrote:
             | Oh yes. I'm strongly in favor of having a sticker on
             | everything and want these salespeople to get credit for
             | every purchase even when I know exactly what I want.
             | 
             | Regardless if they gave me any help during that particular
             | visit or not.
        
               | behringer wrote:
               | Why not? Wtf do you care? It has no effect on you other
               | than making them happy.
        
               | gruturo wrote:
               | Because making people happy costs you nothing, in this
               | case and many many others, so why wouldn't you?
        
           | erkt wrote:
           | Just ask for their sticker and promise you will put it on
           | your purchase. If another approaches just show them the
           | sticker, they get it.
        
           | geerlingguy wrote:
           | St. Louis? Or do other locations also pop up near Trader
           | Joe's?
        
             | jmlim00 wrote:
             | One in Cambridge also happens to be next to the Trader
             | Joe's. I'm starting to see a pattern here..
        
       | rayiner wrote:
       | I grew up going to the Microcenter in Vienna, VA. Bought a
       | monitor there just a couple of years ago. Hasn't changed at all
       | in 25 years!
        
         | mrexroad wrote:
         | Same! I think last time I was there was to buy a iMac -- back
         | when they first released the different colors. Bought lots of
         | parts back in that era too. Glad to hear it's still there.
        
           | acheron wrote:
           | My teenage son just bought a 3D printer there in January.
        
       | walterbell wrote:
       | Fry's Electronics discussion threads
       | 
       |  _" Demolishing the Fry's Electronics in Burbank"_, 100 comments
       | (2025), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43677862
       | 
       |  _" Fry's Electronics is closing all stores"_, 300 comments
       | (2021), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26246435
       | 
       |  _" Is Fry's Electronics in trouble?"_, 350 comments (2020),
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21945492
       | 
       |  _" The Fry's Era"_, 150 comments (2019),
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20853834
       | 
       | Electronics Surplus Stores
       | 
       |  _" Sundown for Surplus_" (2018),
       | https://www.eham.net/article/41444
       | 
       |  _" End of an Era: Weird Stuff Warehouse closed_" (2018),
       | https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/08/sjm-l-weirdstuff-0408...
        
         | roughly wrote:
         | > "Fry's Electronics is closing all stores", 300 comments
         | (2021), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26246435
         | 
         | > "Is Fry's Electronics in trouble?", 350 comments (2020),
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21945492
         | 
         | This made me chuckle. Betteridge's law is more of what you'd
         | call a guideline than a rule.
        
       | mcbuckeye wrote:
       | I got my first computer, an Apple ][+, at the original Micro
       | Center store in Upper Arlington (Columbus), Ohio.
       | 
       | The store was tiny and then grew over time to be huge. I live in
       | NJ now and they have a store about 40 minutes away from me. I'm
       | surprised they are still around given e-commerce and all the
       | other stores that have collapsed. Happy they are--it's always fun
       | to walk through the store like in the good old days and see what
       | you can find.
        
         | kevinsync wrote:
         | Yup, I go in the Columbus store semi-frequently -- have since
         | the mid-90's. They've kept up with the times so it's a little
         | less "smells like nerd" (which bums me out), but they are very
         | competent, very good on price, and sometimes it's just NICE to
         | zip up 315 to get something instead of hitting Amazon or Ebay.
         | 
         | In comparison, Best Buy is a disaster lol; I hadn't been since
         | Obama was in office, needed to buy a new tv, and it felt more
         | like "electronics" Value City Furniture crossed with TJ Maxx
         | than anything that came before it (Sun TV, Incredible Universe,
         | etc).
         | 
         | At least at Micro Center you can expect a disheveled-yet-
         | tucked-Oxford salesperson to come bother you until you say "I'm
         | good, just put your sticker on the stuff I'm gonna buy" rather
         | than some burned-out retail drone in a blue polo who tries to
         | hard-sell you on a sound bar you didn't ask for!
        
       | monksy wrote:
       | It's amazing for the area that claims it's the tech center didn't
       | have a microcenter until now. I like having a microcenter in
       | Chicago.
        
         | dehrmann wrote:
         | They had one in Santa Clara in or near the Mercado shopping
         | center until around 2012.
        
       | spacecadet wrote:
       | One of us.
        
       | uqual wrote:
       | It's good to finally have something "between" Best Buy and
       | Central Computer (et al) back in the SV after Fry's died its slow
       | and painful death as the previous Micro Center in Santa Clara
       | closed.
       | 
       | Unfortunately this new one is in the same shopping center as
       | Harbor Freight and it's close to where I live - this could get
       | expensive... Mean to shop at one, end up shopping at both...
       | 
       | The lines on the "insider" opening day 5/28 were pretty long - I
       | waited about an hour in line just to get into the store and the
       | checkout line was over an hour long.
       | 
       | However, based on my purchases that day, I fear they will be
       | unpleasant to shop at - even when busy, they were annoyingly
       | upselling extended warranties. The sales associate on the floor
       | tried to sell me on a plan for a laptop I bought and then, while
       | there were hundreds of people waiting to checkout, the cashier
       | spent time doing so AGAIN. Both were just following their
       | mandated scripts and were at least nice about it all. They
       | apparently also have some sort of rule that the customer buying
       | something like a laptop also needs to "meet" with the sales
       | associate's manager/supervisor - which was a completely useless
       | awkward perfunctory handshake (and the customer survey asked if
       | this meeting had happened so it appears to be an annoying
       | institutional rule).
        
         | arcanemachiner wrote:
         | > the customer survey asked if this meeting had happened so it
         | appears to be an annoying institutional rule
         | 
         | Whenever I get a survey that asks dumb questions like that, I
         | just answer "yes" so that the employees don't get harassed for
         | not asking those dumb questions to me in person.
         | 
         | "Were you warmly welcomed by a team member?" You bet I was!
         | 
         | "Did one of our team members tell you about our partnership
         | with the Heart and Stroke Foundation?" Sure, why not?
        
           | vunderba wrote:
           | There's a great parody of the whole customer satisfaction
           | thing on a very underrated comedy series called "Corporate".
           | Five out of five!
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvHZfAT0F94
        
       | dustbunny wrote:
       | My mind is blown that this is new.
       | 
       | My small city in Canada has an awesome Memory Express in it. And
       | it's packed with ~16 year old gamers and their dads spending big
       | $ on stuff.
        
         | grg0 wrote:
         | $3719 for a GPU certainly is new.
         | 
         | I'm fucking pumped for brick-and-mortar, though. Bring more
         | bricks.
        
       | evbogue wrote:
       | I've been shopping at Microcenter in Chicago since I was a kid. I
       | bought my last 3 computers there.
       | 
       | I couldn't believe upon moving to the bay in the aughts that
       | there was nowhere to buy a decent computer. I'm glad they finally
       | have a place to buy a computer out there.
        
       | mixmastamyk wrote:
       | Wish there was one near Los Angeles, especially now that Fry's is
       | gone. There's a MC in in Orange County, but it's a bit too far
       | with Best Buy close and online deliveries.
        
       | reid wrote:
       | Parking lot is completely full. I parked nearby and walked over.
       | They're giving away free mugs today with Micro Center Silicon
       | Valley on it.
       | 
       | Huge Ubiquiti display and demo area. I didn't buy anything today
       | because the checkout line was too long. My daughter liked the
       | Magna Tile selection in the toys area.
       | 
       | Really great to have this much selection nearby.
        
       | vunderba wrote:
       | I used to love visiting the Microcenter near our family home back
       | in the early 90s. In those halcyon days, they had a exceptionally
       | LIBERAL return policy - 30 days even on opened software. (the
       | L.L. Bean of electronics).
       | 
       | As a child whose modest income was derived solely from weekly
       | lawn mowing, needless to say I coincidentally became quite
       | accomplished at beating PC games within a month's time.
       | 
       | In defense of my somewhat _dubious_ behavior, I did go back as an
       | older teenager with far more disposable income and purchase a ton
       | of big-box PC games from them. Most of which I still have
       | including one of my all-time favorite RPGs, Betrayal at Krondor.
        
       | mrbluecoat wrote:
       | Reminds me of when I started working at a new Best Buy back when
       | they were the cool new kid on the block
        
       | MPSimmons wrote:
       | Man, I am glad I live near a Microcenter. It's great that they
       | have a big maker section now, too.
        
       | whalesalad wrote:
       | I used to live a mile or so from the location in Michigan.
       | Previously I lived a few miles from the one in Tustin, CA.
       | Growing up I was a few miles from Fry's in Burbank and went there
       | all the time. Now I live out in the boonies and it's certainly
       | made me realize how fortunate I was all these years
        
       | bdcravens wrote:
       | While I've built machines using parts from Microcenter, it's been
       | several years, as I eventually went all-in on Macbooks (though
       | you can often get one cheaper there than at the Apple Store).
       | However, as I've gotten into 3d printing and other maker tech in
       | the last year, I'm now there at least once a month, and have
       | spent more than I ever did.
        
       | maz1b wrote:
       | Surprising - but a good change! I recently picked up an M3 Ultra
       | from there.
        
       | bschwindHN wrote:
       | I got into electronics around 2016, right around when I was
       | visiting my hometown from living abroad. There's been a Micro
       | Center there for years and I ended up spending hours there
       | looking at all the ESP8266 boards they had there, along with the
       | various supplies of Arduinos and Adafruit boards. Pretty "recent"
       | in terms of electronics tech, but somehow this is already close
       | to 10 years ago :c
        
       | pss314 wrote:
       | Per this reddit post, at the Santa Clara location there were some
       | 5090 GPU retail boxes filled with crossbody backpacks instead of
       | the GPU. Microcenter did eventually track this to a particular
       | supplier.
       | 
       | https://www.reddit.com/r/Microcenter/comments/1kymzcd/update...
        
         | mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
         | Am I the only one amused that nVidia flagship GPUs are now so
         | large that you can fit 3 backbacks inside their packaging?
        
       | edgan wrote:
       | I see they opened a store again in Santa Clara. I remember the
       | old one next to AMC theater that was a Walmart last I saw.
        
       | sylens wrote:
       | I love MicroCenter. Why do they seem to be flourishing as Best
       | Buy seems to be closing stores, reducing staff, and locking items
       | in the back?
        
       | bitwize wrote:
       | Micro Center! I used to go to the one in Massachusetts. Really
       | good stuff and a wide selection. I miss Fry's in its heyday, but
       | Micro Center comes close to that ideal.
        
         | daviddever23box wrote:
         | Micro Center is not trying to be a white-goods (refrigerator,
         | washer / dryer, etc.) store, as Fry's was.
         | 
         | I've had great luck with Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Chicago
         | stores, and there is now one in Indianapolis that is clean and
         | up-to-date.
        
       | vondur wrote:
       | I love the one here in Orange County California. They always have
       | these combo deals with Motherboard/CPU/RAM that are good deals.
       | My current Ryzen 9 7950x was build from a deal at Microcenter.
        
       | mnky9800n wrote:
       | I wonder if it will include an old bin with unopened copies of
       | dark forces Jedi knight and other old stuff that just never sold
       | all the copies for sale in a discount bin. The Microcenter in
       | Atlanta was a treasure of old software that you had to have at
       | some point in the past.
        
       | johnea wrote:
       | All I can say is: It's about time.
       | 
       | I'm amazed there aren't more of these stores nationwide.
       | 
       | I live in San Diego, and (luckily) the closest one is an hour
       | drive away in Tustin.
       | 
       | California, 1/8 of the US population, and the world's 4th largest
       | economy, has "after years of waiting" 2 stores 8-/
       | 
       | I can only reminisce about the olden days when there were dozens
       | of "bin stores", with electronic components, test equipment, new
       | and used gear of every variety, and staff that knew about the
       | stock.
       | 
       | Apparently, modern electronic developers feel that ordering from
       | Alibaba is some kind of viable substitute 8-/
       | 
       | This whole disappearance, coupled with the disappearance of the
       | many many small local electronics development firms, is a clear
       | sign of the demise of the American republic.
       | 
       | The elimination of small independent tech companies, and the
       | supply chain that went with them, from our communities and our
       | economy has been a disaster for the american people, and quite
       | frankly, I couldn't care less how many vulture capital fanbois
       | disagree with me...
        
       | rufus_foreman wrote:
       | I sort of hate Micro Center and I sort of love it.
       | 
       | My theory of how you tell you're rich or not is that you walk
       | into a store and you can buy whatever you want without caring
       | what the price tag is.
       | 
       | I'm rich at the grocery store, I'm not rich at Micro Center.
        
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