[HN Gopher] Irritation Is Inspiration
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       Irritation Is Inspiration
        
       Author : j4mehta
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2025-05-30 19:35 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | PaulHoule wrote:
       | Makes me think of the head of a web agency in my town who was
       | offended that my son was playing video games in emulation on a
       | laptop in a setup that showed the wrong aspect. I gave a talk in
       | NYC and then came back to give it in Ithaca and he pointed out
       | that I made a common Excel mistake on one of my charts.
        
         | firesteelrain wrote:
         | The way you phrased it doesn't sound like irritation that
         | improved either your son's situation or your charts. Sounds
         | like someone who is a pedantic
        
           | PaulHoule wrote:
           | No, I appreciate his detail orientation. Wish I'd shown him
           | my talk before I went to NYC.
           | 
           | I find myself irritated by
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           | https://www.fastcompany.com/91324550/kerning-on-pope-
           | francis...
           | 
           | like Italy is hotbed of art and culture and one reason you go
           | to a Catholic Church is to appreciate a beautiful
           | environment. How many things has the church carved in stone
           | and done correctly? Maybe 1000 years from now the tomb will
           | be still like that and it will remind people that we had
           | these terrible machines called 'computers' and aren't we glad
           | they are all gone.
        
           | vakkermans wrote:
           | ...Who is a pedant.
        
             | firesteelrain wrote:
             | I took it as the son's web agency head
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | See also "pain is information".
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       | When it's pissing you off stop. Take a beat and think about
       | whether you can go around instead of through. Or whether it's
       | worth going through once in a manner that makes it easier next
       | time. Walk around the lake, or build a boat. Walk around the
       | wood, or build an path and turn it into a road by increments.
        
         | j4mehta wrote:
         | Definitely! Surprise, pain, irritation - I think anything that
         | causes a strong emotion in you likely means there's potential
         | for signal or reflection there.
        
       | CommenterPerson wrote:
       | Interesting idea. But that lecture mentioned typos. Now I am
       | irritated the author built "a software" to reply to emails.
        
       | chankstein38 wrote:
       | My problem is I feel like my irritation is with things that are
       | out of my control. People not caring about quality when they
       | produce things that I spend good money on (and have no abilities
       | to turn into a new manufacturing startup or something). Software
       | (Adobe, Blender, Davinci Resolve, etc) that has a feature that
       | doesn't feel like it makes sense or something that just doesn't
       | seem to work. Another thing that I have no real knowledge about.
       | I'm a programmer but I don't think there's a good reason for me
       | to write my own 3d software or image/video editor.
       | 
       | Side note, I've never looked at this person's "AI Powered
       | Podcast" but how do they even know they're getting real
       | information about Indian History? I was talking to ChatGPT last
       | night about whether or not it was possible to adjust the level of
       | the water in a toilet bowl and it confidently told me I could and
       | how to do it. I kept discussing it with it and, at one point, it
       | slipped in a comment about how it's controlled by the level of
       | the trap in the back of the toilet. I said "So it's NOT possible
       | and you've just wasted my time?" and it was like "Yep, sorry
       | about that"
       | 
       | Same night I asked it something and provided it a link to read
       | and I asked a question about it. It indicated it had gone to the
       | page and, I assume, consumed the text on the page. It answered
       | the question but then said something that made me realize it
       | might be wrong. I asked it to tell me where it saw that and it
       | told me it wasn't actually on the page.
       | 
       | I ask because it sounds interesting to make an "AI Powered
       | Podcast" about things I'm interested in. I frequently want to
       | listen to a podcast while mowing my grass or something and
       | struggle to find interesting, long-form things about the specific
       | topics that I'm thinking about. (Radio astronomy, weather,
       | astronomy, music, whatever) So I'd love to do this but I trust AI
       | outputs so little...
        
         | nartho wrote:
         | >but how do they even know they're getting real information
         | about Indian History
         | 
         | They do not. AI and LLMs are awesome tools when they're being
         | used correctly, with their limitations in mind, but for a big
         | majority of people who don't have a clue about how they work,
         | it's going to be a disaster. We will see more and more of this
         | garbage because it's easy money. AI generated podcasts, youtube
         | videos etc, until people start believing hallucinated junk.
        
         | j4mehta wrote:
         | Yeah fair point! Honestly, the low faith in AI is probably a
         | good stance to have right now.
         | 
         | The AI podcast was an experiment for me, I created it by
         | feeding reference content (textbooks, primary material, etc) to
         | NotebookLM. The results were _okay_, some episodes were good
         | but the discussion was far too surface level, and I couldn't
         | direct it towards any specific direction.
         | 
         | The tech is evolving so fast though, so I do think there's an
         | opportunity in that space to build something interesting.
        
       | bobrobpr wrote:
       | My pain comes from reading all the dumb comments on HN. This is a
       | cesspool. What happened to humanity?
        
       | esilverman wrote:
       | spite driven development
        
         | j4mehta wrote:
         | facts
        
       | Daisywh wrote:
       | Sometimes I get irritated by the tiniest UX bug like when a
       | dropdown doesn't close unless you click outside of it. It's dumb.
       | But it sits in my brain all day. Eventually I realized: these
       | moments are design feedback, whether I like it or not. I started
       | keeping a dumb little "annoyance log" just for fun. After a
       | while, it turned into a surprisingly useful list of product
       | ideas. Not saying every irritation is genius, but some of them
       | are definitely signal. You just have to catch them before they
       | fade.
        
       | pedalpete wrote:
       | TLDR - you are probably blinded to your biggest irritations, and
       | they just might be ingrained into society to such an extent that
       | we think nothing can be done about them. Just turning on the
       | light to see them and asking the right question is just the 1st
       | step.
       | 
       | I think the real challenge is that what bothers most people are
       | actually minor irritations. We don't notice the big thing
       | shouting at us that it's a problem.
       | 
       | This was my experience which lead me into neurotech/sleeptech.
       | 
       | I'm a lifelong insomniac. I was going through sleep labs as a
       | kid. I had done all the CBTi (though I don't think it was called
       | that in the 80s), sleep hygiene, etc. etc. I'm quite healthy,
       | just crap sleeper.
       | 
       | I was almost 50 when at 3am I thought to myself "I don't care if
       | I sleep, I just don't want to be tired anymore".
       | 
       | I thought that was an interesting thought. Poor sleep had been
       | ruining my life for the most part of 5 decades.
       | 
       | So I started looking into the latest in sleep research (I had
       | worked in healthtech at Australia's science and technology
       | research agency), and it all seemed very much the same as what
       | I'd heard before. I started tracking everything, trying to figure
       | out if I could build some sort of algorithm that picked up a
       | signal of what I was doing when I had good sleep vs bad.
       | 
       | This was completely the wrong approach. My irritation wasn't
       | truly that I couldn't sleep enough. That was part of it, but the
       | bigger irritation was that I was always tired. Even though I
       | asked the right question, the global mentality was "you need to
       | sleep longer".
       | 
       | That was until I discovered research in slow-wave enhancement,
       | which increases the synchronous firing of neurons which are the
       | defining marker of deep sleep. This is tapping into the
       | restorative function of sleep, not focusing on sleep time.
       | 
       | So I think that finding the irritation that may be hidden from
       | you is step 1. But beyond that, who else has had the same
       | irritation, and what have they done about it. Why did their
       | solutions not work. Then, why do you think you can do it better?
       | 
       | If you're curious about what we're building, you can check out
       | https://affectablesleep.com
        
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