[HN Gopher] Civil War in 3D: Stereographs from the New-York Hist...
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       Civil War in 3D: Stereographs from the New-York Historical Society
       (2015)
        
       Author : LorenDB
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2025-05-29 15:43 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nyhistory.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nyhistory.org)
        
       | ramesh31 wrote:
       | You can see the effect in these images directly without a device,
       | by simply crossing your eyes and focusing on the third central
       | image that appears, similar to those 3D optical illusion books:
       | https://youtu.be/zBa-bCxsZDk
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | The cross-eyed method requires the images be swapped left-for-
         | right.
        
           | kazinator wrote:
           | Not sure why you are downvoted; that is correct.
        
         | kazinator wrote:
         | This gallery presents the original stereograms in their stare-
         | into-distance configuration (left image goes with left eye,
         | right with right), not cross-eyes configuration (left image
         | goes with right eye and vice versa).
        
       | JeremyHerrman wrote:
       | Is it just me or are some of these examples not actually stereo
       | image pairs?
       | 
       | I'm just crossing my eyes to see the "negative" depth image but
       | some like "McLean's House" and "Lincoln visits General McClellan
       | at Antietam" don't appear to have any depth changes between them.
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | You need to swap left and right images to use the cross-eyed
         | method on these. You can try downloading as an image, use an
         | app like Preview to Flip Horizontal (that will work).
         | 
         | Otherwise you're seeing a kind of inverse stereo image.
         | 
         | (EDIT: Having said that, I tried a few of the images and the
         | stereo effect is subtle. The soldier on the horse -- I was not
         | even able to get that to "snap" for me. I am not great with
         | cross-eyed stereo though.)
        
           | JeremyHerrman wrote:
           | yes understood that cross-eyed method inverts the depth. My
           | point was that some of the image pairs are from the exact
           | same perspective - so there is no stereo depth no matter if
           | you're using cow-eyed or cross-eyed.
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | Yeah, if there is depth, it was pretty subtle on the few I
             | got to work.
        
         | kazinator wrote:
         | These images were prepared for insertion into a stereogram in
         | which the left eye looks at the left image and right eye looks
         | at the right image, through a magnifying lens. When viewing
         | with the naked eye, you must stare past the images into the
         | distance to get them to converge that way.
        
           | JeremyHerrman wrote:
           | Thanks, I understand how stereograms work and have quite a
           | few of these IRL. I use cross-eyed method to quickly view
           | them (albeit inverted depth) when shown on screen.
           | 
           | I've tried to show my point in these videos which show
           | basically no difference between the two images when
           | overlapped and crossfaded between the two.
           | https://imgur.com/a/RMy3QA3
        
             | kazinator wrote:
             | I agree that particular image is a dud; I was not able to
             | perceive any depth.
             | 
             | The creator mistakenly used the same image twice.
             | 
             | The two men in a tent image is likewise a dud. If we look
             | at the pole at the tent entrance, there is no difference in
             | parallax between that and objects at the back wall.
             | 
             | The Abe Lincoln doesn't pop out much for me.
             | 
             | The dead soldiers in the field also seems to be identical
             | images.
             | 
             | The clearly genuine ones are the horse-drawn carriage in
             | the forest, and the horseman in front of the cannon.
        
         | JeremyHerrman wrote:
         | Here are some videos trying to show what I mean. I overlapped
         | the two images on top and crossfaded between the two. Aside
         | from some minor distortion I don't see any major differences
         | normally found between stereo pairs.
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         | https://imgur.com/a/RMy3QA3
        
       | saddat wrote:
       | Create two pictures from it and use
       | https://huggingface.co/spaces/cavargas10/TRELLIS-Multiple3D
        
       | kazinator wrote:
       | For casual viewing with the unaided eye, you want to present
       | stereograms in cross-your-eyes order not stare-into-distance
       | order.
       | 
       | Most people are not able to cause their eyes to diverge, so the
       | scale of images in a stare-into-distance stereogram is limited by
       | the interocular distance.
       | 
       | In cross-eye configuration, larger images can be used.
       | 
       | (Of course, the use of magnification in stereoscopes relieves the
       | issue, as well as making it easier for the eyes to focus, since
       | the magnified virtual images appear farther away. Viewing stare-
       | into-distance stereograms requires the eyes to believe they are
       | looking far away due to the parallel gaze, while simultaneously
       | focusing near on the images; magnification brings the images
       | farther out.)
        
         | LorenDB wrote:
         | I personally find the crosseyed type to be nearly impossible,
         | while the parallel type are pretty easy for me. So I think it
         | really depends on the person. Additionally, most stereograms
         | I've seen (e.g. coffee-table books) have been parallel type.
        
           | kazinator wrote:
           | The parallel types are also very easy for me, but they are
           | always small.
           | 
           | If the spacing between them is wider than my inter-ocular
           | distance, I find them impossible to converge.
           | 
           | I made stereograms in the past and wanted to see larger
           | images with the naked eye, so I had no choice but swap the
           | images and cross the eyes.
        
       | ge96 wrote:
       | For an example that works see this squirrel sorry reddit link
       | 
       | https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....
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       | crazy but I feel sick now ha, I had a VR headset before and I'd
       | get super sick trying to play FO4, VRChat wasn't bad
        
       | bredren wrote:
       | Would be cool to get these converted into spatial photos for
       | Vision Pro.
        
         | mdswanson wrote:
         | Not too many steps away from this:
         | https://blog.mikeswanson.com/spatial/
        
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