[HN Gopher] WeatherStar 4000+: Weather Channel Simulator
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       WeatherStar 4000+: Weather Channel Simulator
        
       Author : adam_gyroscope
       Score  : 411 points
       Date   : 2025-05-29 15:38 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (weatherstar.netbymatt.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (weatherstar.netbymatt.com)
        
       | jader201 wrote:
       | It will only be the true 90s Weather Channel when I hear some
       | Rippingtons playing in the background.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndaMC-Ug4Jg
        
         | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
         | I remember instrumental covers of Pink Floyd.
        
         | huslage wrote:
         | I bought all of the Rippingtons albums because I heard them on
         | the Weather Channel...I was inexplicably into smooth jazz at
         | the time.
        
         | polygot wrote:
         | Not sure how they're going to go around that corner with that
         | vehicle
        
       | ndiddy wrote:
       | If you're interested in this, someone on YouTube got a
       | WeatherStar 4000 (device that sat at cable headends and generated
       | the local weather report graphics) and wrote all new firmware to
       | make 90's style weather reports on the real hardware. This was
       | necessary because the original firmware was downloaded over
       | satellite so it's now lost. It looks basically identical to the
       | real Weather Channel from the 90s, except it doesn't have their
       | logo in the corner (I guess for trademark reasons). Here's a
       | stream of his WeatherStar:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66mSjXpfD2c
        
         | jjk7 wrote:
         | If you read his devlog, he started this project not knowing
         | assembly or C... teaching himself as he went. Incredible.
        
         | jimmydddd wrote:
         | Importantly, it also plays Weather Channel-esque background
         | music.
        
           | jazzyjackson wrote:
           | Thanks for mentioning that, had me digging around for where I
           | can find the music. The youtube link lead me to the project's
           | hackaday log, which is extremely detailed but lacks any
           | mention of music [0]
           | 
           | The submission link's github page [1] links to a website
           | listing all the tracks that ever played [2], explaining they
           | dropped the music from the project so as not to deal with
           | copyright claims. too bad fair use isn't clear enough to
           | apply here, I think its a relatively transformative use and
           | doesn't compete with the original.
           | 
           | [0] https://hackaday.io/project/178144-reverse-engineering-
           | the-w...
           | 
           | [1] https://github.com/netbymatt/ws4kp
           | 
           | [2] https://twcclassics.com/audio/artists.html
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | why would fair use be at play here? TWC would have paid a
             | license fee through ASCAP or whomever for the rights to
             | broadcast that music. They didn't just download a bunch of
             | mp3 files from Napster and try to disrupt broadcasting.
        
               | jazzyjackson wrote:
               | You're right, of course. I guess I just put a lot of
               | weight on the charm of keeping old things running, and
               | think there's value to the public in allowing free use of
               | music, particularly for non-commercial/educational
               | purposes.
        
               | theklub wrote:
               | Not sure if you are aware but the weather Channel sold
               | music CDs I have one.
        
         | CursedSilicon wrote:
         | If it's the same one that brings the equipment to Retro
         | Computing events. He sadly has declined to publish any kind of
         | archive of the software for other hobbyists :(
         | 
         | I understand that he's under no obligation to do so. But a lot
         | of us worry that if the hard disks die or if he loses interest
         | in the hobby, that software will be irrevocably lost for all of
         | us
        
       | jb1991 wrote:
       | When I visit this site, it just keeps automatically refreshing
       | the homepage over and over every second.
        
       | dbg31415 wrote:
       | Love it!
       | 
       | Music is a bit too fast, I miss the sleepy jazz feel from the
       | 90s. (=
        
       | jasonpeacock wrote:
       | Nice!
       | 
       | It'd be helpful to have the options stored in the URL, especially
       | the kiosk mode, so it can be bookmarked.
       | 
       | And allow <esc> to exit kiosk mode.
        
         | trvr wrote:
         | It seems if you left click "Copy Permalink" that the site will
         | generate a massive URL with all of your options. One of them is
         | "settings-kiosk-checkbox". Change it to "true" in your copied
         | URL and that should work.
        
       | crims0n wrote:
       | Very neat! I put it in kiosk mode and could almost hear the hum
       | of a CRT.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | hum? you mean a very high pitched squeal?
        
       | ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote:
       | Looks like this was the original version?
       | https://github.com/vbguyny/ws4kp
        
       | Chihuahua0633 wrote:
       | Man, I want to be able to have this as an actual stream on my TV!
        
         | joezydeco wrote:
         | Follow what this person did:
         | https://blog.scottlabs.io/2024/02/weather-like-its-1999/
        
       | lordfrito wrote:
       | Great stuff! Reminds me of when the web used to be fun...
        
         | lobsterthief wrote:
         | Same here. I've been doing web design and development for 24
         | years now so I've witnessed the full pivot towards
         | homogenization of interfaces; it's necessary for commerce and
         | usability at this point. But once in a while I'll throw
         | together a microsite like this to return to my roots a bit.
         | This is my latest (a basic Trump presidency countdown clock):
         | https://timeleft.now/
        
       | Vitamin_Sushi wrote:
       | Love the WS4000. I've been meaning to make a WS4000 like
       | application I can throw on my firestick and just have it play all
       | day on my TV as a side project. As someone without any GUI or
       | graphics programming knowledge, it's definitely been a nice
       | learning experience.
        
       | absurdo wrote:
       | I miss this late 80s early 90s jazz fusion.
        
       | phkahler wrote:
       | Oh, man I thought I was going to see an AI generated Heather
       | Tesch.
        
       | laweijfmvo wrote:
       | I yearn for Local on the 8's
        
       | parpfish wrote:
       | half expecting this to veer into some analog horror
        
         | throwanem wrote:
         | The horror lies in seeing 2025 with eyes from 1990.
        
       | post_break wrote:
       | I run one of these on my desk 24x7 with a raspberry pi and a 3D
       | printed monitor that simulates a CRT. I tried with a real CRT TV
       | but the frequency and having it at the side of my main monitor
       | started to make me sick.
       | 
       | https://imgur.com/a/wD2EINO
       | 
       | https://github.com/vbguyny/ws4kp
        
         | agscala wrote:
         | Nice! Which screen is that? All of the screens I've found are
         | widescreen and I'd like to do a similar project
        
           | post_break wrote:
           | https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5564208
        
         | shortstuffsushi wrote:
         | It seems like this could make a good addition for the folks
         | working on EmuVR @ https://www.emuvr.net/
        
       | halyconWays wrote:
       | I love this
        
       | noduerme wrote:
       | This page on an Android phone displays briefly and then crashes
       | the tab in Chrome, and crashes the entire app in Firefox. Neat
       | trick.
        
         | throwanem wrote:
         | No trouble here. Galaxy S10+, Firefox whatever's current.
        
       | duxup wrote:
       | Very cool.
       | 
       | Music is a bit too high fidelity ;)
        
       | languagehacker wrote:
       | Thank you for the vaporwave vibes!
        
       | barbazoo wrote:
       | Wow, that's horrible, I love it!
        
       | doawoo wrote:
       | I have a version (probably not exactly the same software for the
       | head unit) of this on an SGI O2 sitting around including all the
       | environment scripts and the HTML manuals. I have a tar.gz of it
       | that I should upload to an archive location.
        
       | kylehotchkiss wrote:
       | Where's the sponsored content?
        
       | socalgal2 wrote:
       | Not knowing what WeatherStar 4000+ was, I was expecting "Weather
       | Channel Simulator" to use AI to generate live video of a weather
       | reporter describing the weather.
       | 
       | Can't be too far off.
        
         | samtp wrote:
         | This is a lot more interesting and impressive than AI generated
         | goop
        
         | pncnmnp wrote:
         | I was thinking the same thing! I've been working with some TTS
         | applications, such as real-time commentary for Pong and
         | personalized radio stations. I might give this a try, it sounds
         | fun.
        
       | volleygman180 wrote:
       | I was impressed as soon as it loaded and immediately said, "Yea
       | but what about the music?". Then I noticed the sound toggle
       | button.
       | 
       | Absolute perfection!
        
         | sharksauce wrote:
         | Anyone see an easy way to add the sound-on setting to the URL
         | options generated by "Copy Permalink"?
        
           | 9Ljdg6p8ZSzejt wrote:
           | Yes! Add &mediaPlaying=true to the url. You might also need
           | to allow audio autoplaying for the website first in the non-
           | kiosk version or launch the browser allowing it.
        
       | gasgiant wrote:
       | I listen to a lot of Pat Metheny Group, which my wife refers to
       | as "Weather Channel Music". I used to argue that Pat was waaay
       | better than the stuff on the Weather Channel, until one day we
       | had it on in a hotel room and "Last Train Home" came on, and I
       | had to shut the heck up.
        
         | alexjplant wrote:
         | Given how much fusion they played on "Local on the 8s" I wonder
         | if they ever spun some Weather Report...
        
         | xorbax wrote:
         | Wasn't there also a text-to-speech voiceover of the local
         | forecast text?
         | 
         | I would have sworn they would replace the music with a guy
         | "reading" the forecast.
        
           | dcrazy wrote:
           | There was a time when it was only prerecorded "The forecast
           | for your area"
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | For a time, you could call a phone number for the forecast.
             | A lot of banks would tell you the time with one of their
             | numbers.
        
               | reaperducer wrote:
               | This still exists in some cities. Albuquerque is one.
        
           | xd1936 wrote:
           | "Your Local 'On the 8s'"
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | In large markets, some of the local broadcast stations have a
           | dedicated digital channel that plays a local version of this.
           | In my market, they have the digital voice reading the
           | forecast.
        
         | dcrazy wrote:
         | This reminds me of when I first listened to my dad's Spyro Gyra
         | CD.
        
         | colpabar wrote:
         | Music is so funny. I just listened to this on youtube and
         | _immediately_ started crying because it reminded me of my late
         | father who used to watch the weather channel all the time.
         | Seeing this thread and all the weather channel talk makes me
         | think of him, but man, hearing the music just wrecks me.
        
           | jader201 wrote:
           | Yeah, there's something about hearing -- especially music --
           | and smell that can somehow really induce major nostalgia,
           | where sight just doesn't have the same effect.
           | 
           | Sight still definitely can induce nostalgia, but not near to
           | the extent as hearing and smell.
           | 
           | Particularly music, where it already has the power to induce
           | emotions already.
        
         | mortenjorck wrote:
         | "Last Train Home" _is_ a banger, in any case.
        
       | hospadam wrote:
       | Is there anyone who could point me to an easy-ish way to get this
       | running on a PI + Screen? I have a special-needs son who would
       | LOVE to have this running. I'll take any advice! Thank you!
        
         | macintux wrote:
         | Looks like this comment might help:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44128109
        
       | ivraatiems wrote:
       | I love this. Why is the music so good? How do I get more music
       | like this?
        
         | vanadium wrote:
         | So many people loved it, The Weather Channel actually put out
         | CDs. One such example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/127083056970
        
       | theturtle wrote:
       | Far out! From the old days before they had shitty non-weather
       | shows all the time and before they started "naming" winter
       | storms.
       | 
       | And before they started saying "impactful" nine times a minute.
       | 
       | And before they hired that fuckface Justin Michaels.
       | 
       | Before that 1970s "comedian" bought the channel and fucked it up.
        
       | harwoodr wrote:
       | I take it this only works for USA locations?
        
         | raverbashing wrote:
         | Looks like it. Which is definitely a shame but I can understand
         | they might not have all the APIs for all the locations
        
           | harwoodr wrote:
           | International version: https://github.com/mwood77/ws4kp-
           | international https://mwood77.github.io/ws4kp-international/
        
             | ghosty141 wrote:
             | this is fantastic, thanks!
        
       | jimmydddd wrote:
       | Great job!
        
       | gdubs wrote:
       | Well, this wins the internet for today -- pack it up everybody.
       | 
       | Seriously though beyond just being awesome, this site is such a
       | good experience on mobile. Really well crafted nostalgia vibes.
        
       | fitsumbelay wrote:
       | nothing but love for this. excellent stuff
        
       | burnte wrote:
       | This is fantastic.
        
       | can16358p wrote:
       | It literally couldn't find my city nor the most popular city of
       | my country.
        
         | chorfusmcnally wrote:
         | The version linked is just using NOAA info, here's the
         | international version: https://mwood77.github.io/ws4kp-
         | international/
        
       | eth_hack77 wrote:
       | This sounds interesting but here's what I experience: I put
       | London and pressed continue - nothing happened. I gave the
       | location permission and pressed continue - nothing happened
       | again.
       | 
       | Console printed these logs: Uncaught (in promise) TypeError:
       | Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'relativeLocation')
       | at ws.min.js?_=5.21.3:1:133923 at ws.min.js?_=5.21.3:1:89730
        
       | b8 wrote:
       | I wish the watermark was smaller, because it blocks so much info.
        
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