[HN Gopher] Long live American Science and Surplus
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       Long live American Science and Surplus
        
       Author : thinkalone
       Score  : 380 points
       Date   : 2025-05-28 20:47 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | RajT88 wrote:
       | I used to know the lady who managed the one in IL.
       | 
       | Truly an awesome store. Filled with very eccentric shoppers.
        
         | pfdietz wrote:
         | There were at least two in Illinois.
        
           | RajT88 wrote:
           | The one in St. Charles then.
        
       | beatboxrevival wrote:
       | Loved the store, and the mailer as a kid. Really inspired me to
       | build things. Really wish more stores like it still existed.
       | Anytime I'm back in MKE, it's one of my first stops.
        
         | cardamomo wrote:
         | Same here! I make a yearly pilgrimage whenever I'm in town
         | visiting my parents.
        
       | bittercynic wrote:
       | Anyone know a way to find stores in other areas with this kind of
       | spirit? Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale used to feel a bit like this to
       | me.
        
         | seany wrote:
         | Halted was similar, but they're also gone :/
        
           | bittercynic wrote:
           | Oh, damn, I didn't realize they were gone. I used to like
           | shopping there, but they started to seem less fun as time
           | went on, and the last couple of times I went it seemed to
           | have lost those positive/creative vibes.
        
         | mindcrime wrote:
         | It's not exactly the same, but for folks in the Triangle
         | (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill) area of NC, there is The Scrap
         | Exchange[1].
         | 
         | [1]: https://www.scrapexchange.org/
        
         | begemotz wrote:
         | Ax-Man Surplus in MN. https://www.ax-man.com/
        
           | simonw wrote:
           | I visited that place a couple of months ago, it was
           | _fantastic_.
        
         | jer0me wrote:
         | Axman Surplus in MSP
        
         | wileydragonfly wrote:
         | Electronic Parts Outlet in Houston, TX
        
         | Ccecil wrote:
         | The Reuseum in Garden City, ID
         | 
         | https://www.reuseum.com/
        
           | zrobotics wrote:
           | Bookmarking this, I can't believe I didn't know about this
           | place when I lived there (although that was long enough ago
           | they might not have been open).
        
         | blaines wrote:
         | Jameco in Belmont, CA jameco.com
         | 
         | This is my Bay Area resource for electronic parts in a pinch.
        
         | mediumdave wrote:
         | Skycraft Surplus in Orlando: https://skycraftsurplus.com/
         | 
         | I was there last week (in town on business), and I found a
         | Vector 3677-2 protoboard for $2!
        
         | qingcharles wrote:
         | This was always my go to, and a large source for movie-making:
         | 
         | https://apexsurplus.com/
        
         | mmmlinux wrote:
         | I hate how few responses there are to this.
        
       | daemonologist wrote:
       | Easily the best store I've ever been to. Unfortunately the
       | nearest one is ~an hour drive, so I only visit once every couple
       | of years, but it's always a good afternoon.
        
       | onetimeusename wrote:
       | I went to one to help me with an idea for a 7th grade science
       | fair when I was a child and the staff helped me figure out which
       | items I needed, which included a bunch of electronics parts and
       | motors I had no idea what I was doing with. They patiently and
       | very enthusiastically explained to me how they worked, how to
       | safely use them, and gave me encouragement on my ideas for the
       | project. They thought it was a cool idea. I was really blown
       | away. I went on to win that science fair but honestly could not
       | have done it without their help.
       | 
       | I still go back once in a while and love to look at the strange
       | electronics parts they somehow acquired. I definitely love that
       | someone decided to try to collect and sell these things.
        
         | jackcosgrove wrote:
         | They helped me out for my 8th grade science fair! I wanted to
         | build a shake table to simulate the effects of earthquakes on
         | buildings. (tl;dr: the taller the building, the more flexible
         | it is. At least according to my experiment, which did get me a
         | place at the state finals.) They helped me size the motor and
         | even had an AC one I could plug directly into the wall. This
         | was the Geneva location.
        
       | ghaff wrote:
       | Post probably here because I mentioned it in a comment. Should
       | make a big post-fire purchase.
        
       | MaDeuce wrote:
       | These were my go-to guys for sciencey stocking stuffers at
       | Christmas for my kids. Their catalog was always a joy to read,
       | with excellent puns.
       | 
       | Like the guy who wrote the linked article, a GoFundMe for a for-
       | profit enterprise rubs me the wrong way. However, I just donated
       | because of all the great memories they've provided me and my
       | kids. Seems like those of us that like these things may need to
       | pitch in from time to time.
       | 
       | I wonder if something like this could have helped Lindsay's
       | Publications, who went out of business a decade ago. I have so
       | many fantastic books from them. They're really worth a HN post
       | all on their own.
       | 
       | https://makezine.com/article/workshop/lindsays-technical-boo...
        
         | bluGill wrote:
         | Lindsay retired. Not quite the same. I still miss them though,
         | many interesting books and well currated
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | Scored a lot of Lindsay's books when you still could (lot of
         | build-your-own regenerative receivers and similar, reprints of
         | "The Boy Mechanic", "5 Acres and Independence", etc.).
         | 
         | I would suspect (hope) many have been "archived" at "the org".
         | 
         | (EDIT: I see for example "The Impoverished Radio Experimenter
         | Vol. 4": https://archive.org/details/impoverishedradi0000lind/m
         | ode/2u...)
        
           | kragen wrote:
           | This is a great recommendation, thanks! I've found a lot of
           | interesting _old_ radio hobbyist magazines on the Archive,
           | whose copyright has expired. While it 's great to see how
           | people could get stuff done with the very limited electrical
           | resources available in the 01910s and 01920s, many of the
           | designs depend on materials that are now hard to find, while
           | materials that are now easy to find (like PN2222s) didn't
           | exist.
        
             | jonah-archive wrote:
             | We have a big and ongoing focus on amateur radio right now
             | thanks to a grant from ARDC and really hard work by our
             | awesome Program Manager Kay Savetz. Worth checking out:
             | https://blog.archive.org/2022/11/16/digital-library-of-
             | amate... https://archive.org/details/dlarc
        
               | kragen wrote:
               | Thanks! I had no idea! Your work is one of the three or
               | four most important projects sustaining civilization
               | right now; it will be profoundly missed when it's gone.
        
         | jeff_carr wrote:
         | > a GoFundMe for a for-profit enterprise rubs me the wrong way
         | 
         | It should. They should be selling shares. The Green Bay Packers
         | are similar.
        
           | dr_dshiv wrote:
           | Yeah, why aren't they?
        
             | immibis wrote:
             | Maybe they don't want to be forced to run their store for
             | maximum profit in the future.
        
               | ForHackernews wrote:
               | just issue non-voting shares like all the cool tech
               | companies
        
       | semiquaver wrote:
       | Completely flabbergasted to see one of my favorite stores of all
       | time at the top of HN. This place is an absolute gem and I have
       | countless childhood memories of visiting the Milwaukee Av
       | location.
       | 
       | Heartbroken to see they're in financial distress. If there's any
       | store worth saving it's this one.
        
         | georgeecollins wrote:
         | I ordered motors and pumps from that catalog as a kid. Can you
         | imagine I used to love going through the stuff they had on a
         | paper catalog!
        
           | throwaway20222 wrote:
           | In person you could also see their supplies of sodium and
           | potassium in sealed glass containers. I always wanted to get
           | my hands on those.
           | 
           | Like you said, so many motors and switches; likely a big part
           | of the reason I do what I do for a living today.
        
         | zrobotics wrote:
         | I actually specifically made a trip to Milwaukee 1/3 for the
         | Harley museum and 2/3 for ASS (that acronym was definitely
         | deliberate). I've enjoyed my visits to ax-man surplus [0] in
         | Minneapolis enough that when I heard about a similar store it
         | was enough to justify a 500mi weekend bike trip. The stores are
         | very similar, but anyone lucky to live near their store knows
         | that the inventory changes enough that each visit is a unique
         | experience and you won't see the same things twice.
         | 
         | saveitforparts on YouTube did an excellent tour/example video
         | of ax-man [1] which gives a good idea of the type of store ASS
         | is and the vibe. Even if you aren't local to the upper Midwest,
         | I'd highly recommend donating to keep this store alive. It very
         | much fits with the old-school hacker ethos, and keeping spaces
         | like this alive helps preserve that culture and exposes younger
         | people to the idea of DIY/punk/hacker and the ability to
         | repurpose old/interesting stuff.
         | 
         | Side note, I'm surprised that these types of scientific surplus
         | stores have lasted longer in the upper Midwest than places like
         | silicon valley or near bell labs in NJ. They aren't open for
         | retail anymore and didn't have the same sense of humor, but
         | Surplus Sales of Nebraska [2] is also an excellent example from
         | this area of the country. I hadn't ordered since last year,
         | they had held on to a delightful web 1.0 site up until sometime
         | in the last year and are a legit supplier for really oddball
         | stuff.
         | 
         | [0] https://www.ax-man.com/pages/the-nature-of-surplus
         | 
         | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-uJPIhAUu4
         | 
         | [2] https://www.surplussales.com/
        
           | karlshea wrote:
           | When I moved from Milwaukee to Minneapolis I was happy to
           | find Ax-Man existed, but to be fair I've only made it in a
           | couple of times. I hope there are still 15 year olds that are
           | amazed when they walk in like I was.
           | 
           | A core memory from back then is the big diver's helmet way in
           | the back at ASS, and wishing I could buy the weird radar
           | screen/oscilloscope boxes that looked like they came right
           | out of a tank. And how every label for every box of parts or
           | object in the whole store had funny hand lettered
           | descriptions that someone spent a lot of time on.
        
             | HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
             | I haven't been to Ax-Man in years, despite the fact that I
             | drive up Snelling, past University at least once a month. I
             | have to make the time to stop there one day.
        
           | always-open wrote:
           | Were there ever surplus stores like this near Bell Labs in
           | NJ?
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | > Side note, I'm surprised that these types of scientific
           | surplus stores have lasted longer in the upper Midwest than
           | places like silicon valley or near bell labs in NJ.
           | 
           | Real estate prices are a big factor. Rents in silicon valley,
           | and I suspect NJ have increased much more than midwest rents.
           | Even if the store location is owned, when the business owners
           | are looking to retire, it's then a question of selling the
           | business with the space or closing the business and selling
           | the space by itself, and the value of the space is probably
           | enough that it doesn't make sense to tie it to a business.
           | 
           | Add a bit of reality that manufacturing and the surplus it
           | generates has mostly left silicon valley and NJ, and it makes
           | more sense to have such a business elsewhere.
        
       | cmcconomy wrote:
       | There used to be a place much like this in Toronto called Active
       | Surplus. Sadly got kicked out as rents rose on Queen Street.
       | 
       | RIP
       | https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6495767,-79.3925583,3a,77.4y...
        
         | luyu_wu wrote:
         | From what I know it still exists further out of the city. I
         | have a friend who picked up quite large amount of scientific
         | equipment. Might be a similar store with a different name
         | though.
        
       | blooalien wrote:
       | We used to have the most amazing little electronics store a lot
       | like this called "Ra-Elco" in SLC, Utah, but specifically devoted
       | to every wild bit of electronics you could imagine, ranging from
       | individual little components of every sort all the way up to
       | weird esoteric devices nobody's ever heard of (at least there
       | were a lot _I 'd_ never seen before). Totally _love_ these kinda
       | shoppes, and I truly wish they weren 't such a dying breed. :(
        
         | tdeck wrote:
         | I like these places too but I can see why they are dying. The
         | number of SKUs people want has exploded and the cost
         | competition from buying online is unreal. Recently I needed a
         | motor driver in a hurry (a4988 or equivalent) and decided to
         | visit my local electronics shop. They wanted $9 for it (plus
         | tax), which I was willing to pay, but were out of stock. So I
         | went home and found a 5 pack of the exact same part for about
         | $10, shipped from the US.
         | 
         | The reality is that with these electronics things it's not just
         | 20 or 30% cheaper to buy online, it's often 1/10 the price or
         | better. I can order a 10 pack of pin headers for $1-2 from
         | China and each of those headers costs 50c at my local shop.
        
           | 0_____0 wrote:
           | This is a benefit of having ultra dense industry specific
           | zones like the Shenzhen SEZ. Physical vendors get the volume
           | to warrant operating and reasonable pricing, buyers get
           | components on short notice.
           | 
           | Suburbanization set up the US for failure here, and the
           | governments haven't bothered intentionally creating any
           | equivalent of Shenzhen. Santa Clara county used to be the
           | spot, and I'd regularly pick up quickturn PCBs in person.
           | Still can, but if you're in SF you're probably going to wait
           | for next day shipping unless it's super super important, in
           | which case it could come from any domestic CM.
        
             | owlninja wrote:
             | This doesn't really solve you problem, but they did just
             | open (or about to) a Micro Center in Santa Clara.
        
               | genericone wrote:
               | May 30th, just a few more days!
        
               | 1024core wrote:
               | Wasn't there already a Micro Center in the AMC Mercado
               | Plaza, by that church on Great America?
        
               | jrmg wrote:
               | Not for a _long_ time now - closed in the mid 2000s I
               | think.
        
             | duped wrote:
             | The public's (lack of) tolerance of pollution also impacted
             | things. It's not like PCB manufacturing is clean.
        
               | 0_____0 wrote:
               | PCB manufacturing isn't that bad, semiconductor fab is
               | very nasty. It was nasty an unmitigated way during the
               | birth of silicon valley, check out a superfund site map
               | if you're bored.
               | 
               | https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?layers=c12
               | 29e...
        
             | xrisk wrote:
             | Is it just about having dense industrial zones? I would
             | have imagined cost of labor to be the major cause of price
             | differences.
        
               | 0_____0 wrote:
               | A lot of the cost of silicon valley labor comes down to
               | extremely high housing prices. A lot has been made of how
               | the tech boom was simply a wealth transfer from investors
               | to bay area real estate + homeowners.
        
               | xrisk wrote:
               | Sure but even if you exclude Silicon Valley, the minimum
               | wage for a US worker must be a fair bit higher than the
               | equivalent non-US worker.
        
             | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
             | The US used to have its own SZ in lower Manhattan. They
             | were abandoned when Japan did things cheaper.
        
           | jordanb wrote:
           | I tried to go to AS&S a few times working on projects. They
           | never had what I needed in-stock. It honestly feels more like
           | a toy/knicknack store rather than a place where you can get
           | things you need to build or repair things.
        
         | eco wrote:
         | My understanding is that Ra-Elco essentially moved to Standard
         | Supply after the building burned down. I haven't checked it out
         | myself yet so I can't confirm.
        
           | blooalien wrote:
           | I dunno, but I _do_ know that Standard Supply has _a lot_ of
           | the items I generally need and  / or seek out when I'm
           | visiting such places, so that's all good for me. I still miss
           | Ra-Elco, but as long as I can buy the right parts locally
           | when I'm in a real hurry to grab some important little widget
           | or gizmo, that's what matters most to me. Especially
           | important since Radio Shack is no longer _at all_ that kinda
           | store (and hasn 't been for many years now).
        
         | jlewallen wrote:
         | We used to have Electronics Warehouse here in SoCal (Riverside)
         | I miss them but admit I would rarely go. Selection was
         | definitely better than Radio Shack, but catered to an
         | electronics era my personal designs had grown away from.
        
       | kiernanmcgowan wrote:
       | Back in college we'd buy various lab glassware from AS&S for, uh,
       | collegiate uses of glass. Need to hold things in place and heat
       | them with precision on a budget? This is your store.
        
       | RickS wrote:
       | Oof, i'll be donating big to help out. My partner's from here and
       | i visited for the first time last year. Its fantastic. Half
       | kitschy weird science stuff, but half genuinely fantastic maker
       | materials at great prices. Salvaged air pumps, motors from GMC
       | electric seats, super high load bearings, all kinds of stuff that
       | is at the intersection of obscure, extremely useful, and
       | difficult to get on Amazon, especially at a reasonable price or
       | small quantity.
       | 
       | Anyone from the area should check it out.
        
       | MinimalAction wrote:
       | The title meant as if a wish for science in America to live
       | longer, and that is also subject to so much target of late. Long
       | live American Science institutes and their surplus of curiosity.
        
       | the_arun wrote:
       | Is this their online store - https://sciplus.com/ ? May be some
       | shopping help them?
        
         | jrmg wrote:
         | Yes, that's it.
        
       | superfunny wrote:
       | I just donated - the world is a better (and weirder) place with
       | this store in it. If you live in the Chicagoland or Milwaukee
       | area, you should check it out.
        
       | rpmisms wrote:
       | Oh man, some of my happiest childhood memories are wandering
       | around Geneva sciplus. WIll donate to save it!
        
       | iancmceachern wrote:
       | I just bought some stuff from them last month, have been a
       | customer for decades. Will be donating.
        
       | ryangittins wrote:
       | This is the coolest place! I'm so sad to see they're in financial
       | distress.
       | 
       | As a kid I would browse their website endlessly, just fascinated
       | by all the weird stuff. It scratched the same itch that watching
       | Mythbusters would scratch. In adulthood I rediscovered them and
       | went to their Milwaukee location for the first time. We spent
       | hours there, looking through all the cool stuff they have. It
       | really gives you ideas!
        
       | aurizon wrote:
       | Almost all the surplus stores are gone. Those that owned their
       | place in a depressed warehouse district lasted the longest. Then
       | they based their existence on the USA tax code. If they
       | made1,200,000 electric things = 100,000 a month = sell to meet
       | orders. Orders drop and they had 20,000 left and parts for the
       | next 100,000. At year's end they can write them off - but can not
       | keep them as written down parts = mandatory third party selloff.
       | Surplus dealers would buy them at 5-15% of cost and sell in want-
       | ads in several weekly mailed papers. Electronic Buyers news (EBN)
       | is one I recall. 10 tabloid pages of all stuff. In the late 80's
       | the internet arrived and by 2005 all these tabloids were gone.
       | Then when manufacturing went to Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan and
       | China the sources all collapsed. In addition, surface mount and
       | LSI as well as programmed chips, meant used boards became useless
       | for most - few had the hot air chip pullers. I was a member of
       | Hacklab in Toronto = hacklab.to = a hacker shop you pay by the
       | month and they have all types of machine tools, solder/desolder,
       | laser cutters, filament printers,programmers work stations etc,
       | but most use good laptops, Apple, x86 and linux and assorted
       | single board small like raspberrypi etc. Even they buy from Ali
       | express or one of the parts shops online, like digikey.com Times
       | have hanged. I used to buy from ASS. I went to the ASD show in
       | Las Vegas every year. Still going, less electronic surplus, more
       | sell off goods. https://asdonline.com/about/product-categories/
        
       | robbles wrote:
       | It's a pity they don't ship to other countries than the US. I
       | looked through their website and saw some fun stuff, but no
       | international shipping.
        
         | zrobotics wrote:
         | Send them an email asking for a quote. For a small business
         | like this, I'd expect they can probably ship it to you but the
         | complexities of quoting shipping internationally means they
         | don't have it on the site. Yes, shipping APIs are readily
         | available, but implementing them costs more than the shoestring
         | budget they likely have for the site and would also require
         | integration with their inventory software. I'd be willing to
         | gamble that they are likely using a homegrown WMS that is a
         | combination of excel sheets and several layers of scripts from
         | former and current employees who can write code but aren't
         | professional developers.
         | 
         | I've consulted for similar size businesses, and shipping
         | integration was always the reason to not support international
         | shipments. Send them an email, you'll almost certainly hear
         | back from a real person and if you let them know what you want
         | to order they can probably make it happen.
        
           | robbles wrote:
           | Good to know, thanks for the explanation!
        
       | jsmo wrote:
       | Whoa! MKE on the front page is epic!
        
         | genewitch wrote:
         | I found out about sci-plus from the other Milwaukee staple, red
         | letter media. Not sure which episode, but I could find it with
         | grep if needed.
        
           | genewitch wrote:
           | note: Best of the Worst: Ben and Arthur [Xto-7_xWb9g]
        
       | Animats wrote:
       | So many surplus stores are gone. Silicon Valley had HSC, where
       | Steve Jobs bought Apple's first oscilloscope. They closed in
       | 2018. Weird Stuff Warehouse closed in 2018. Edmund Scientific in
       | New Jersey closed in 2001. Electronic Surplus [2] is "temporarily
       | closed for maintenance. Fair Radio Sales in Lima, OH closed in
       | 2023.[1]
       | 
       | It's cheaper to buy the new stuff from Shenzhen than the old
       | stuff.
       | 
       | [1] https://fairradio.com/
       | 
       | [2] https://www.electronicsurplus.com/
        
         | bagful wrote:
         | AllElectronics in CA, too. I bought out their 10k dual-taper
         | A/C pots during their closing sale; an unusual but powerful
         | taper for audio electronics.
        
       | citizenpaul wrote:
       | I understand lots of people have some pleasant
       | memories....but.... While I didn't know what American Science and
       | surplus are, based on looking at the website they are peddlers of
       | various "store to landfill" junk. Like lots of nostalgic things
       | I'm sure its sad to see it go but it doesn't appear to be the
       | loss of anything significant and doesn't seem to be worth
       | "saving".
        
         | user_7832 wrote:
         | A quick search shows lots of vintage/ex-military
         | "surplus"/parts. Microscopes and optics abound. There are lots
         | of collectors and nerds who'd be happy to buy a pump or an
         | encoder or whatnot (Chris Boden from YouTube, maybe even Alex
         | from Technology Conmections - would be delighted.)
         | 
         | Plus, who doesn't want a life size 6'4" terracotta warrior for
         | their house to silently take guard? You call it landfill, I say
         | it's whimsical and fun. Would a Halloween mask that brings a
         | lot of fun also be something you'd consider landfill suited?
        
       | o0-0o wrote:
       | The Best
        
       | CalRobert wrote:
       | Their printed catalogs were a work of fabulous, goofy, zany art.
       | Great store
        
       | myself248 wrote:
       | Donated. Sciplus (under their old name of Jerryco) was a
       | significant part of my upbringing, whether they realized it or
       | not.
       | 
       | *wavy flashback transition*
       | 
       | As a kid from Michigan, I grew up reading the Jerryco catalog and
       | asking my parents about weird phrases therein, which is how I
       | learned _all sorts_ of cultural references that were, in
       | retrospect, probably not what most folks expected their young
       | children to be asking about. I also learned a lot more context
       | than I got from the dry, factual descriptions in the Edmund
       | Scientific catalog. (Or the Lab Safety Supply catalog, for that
       | matter. I evidently really liked reading catalogs.)
       | 
       | To this day, I have a tote labeled "Bottles, boxes, and bags",
       | after their catalog section.
       | 
       | So when the family took a trip to Chicago, we did a bunch of
       | touristy stuff that I don't remember in the slightest, and also a
       | side-trip to the Jerryco store. It was heaven, it was Mecca, it
       | was Woodstock, it was a candy store, it was a hands-on science
       | museum, all these things at once and more. I devoured it -- a
       | physical tactile experience reflecting the vast weirdness and
       | limitless possibilities of the catalog! I wanted one of
       | _everything_ but had to restrict myself to a few handfuls,
       | because I was 8 and had no money and my parents didn 't have much
       | either. With parental and staff guidance, I picked out some stuff
       | I thought might be fun to play with -- some solar cells (exotic
       | tech in the 80s!), a couple switches I liked the feel of, some
       | motors, who knows what else.
       | 
       | Those are the items I remember because, years later in my teens,
       | those different types of solar cells were the foundation of an
       | award-winning science fair project testing their efficiency under
       | different types of light. In my twenties, one of those rocker
       | switches, still kicking around my parts drawer, ended up being
       | the perfect size to replace a failed switch in a spotlight I was
       | repairing. In my thirties, one of those motors snuck into the
       | back of an engineering demonstration that needed a bit more grunt
       | than the stock Lego motor could provide.
       | 
       | Three decades of engineering usefulness, from one trip at age 8.
       | Beat that.
       | 
       | I've visited one other time, in 2012 or thereabouts, to the
       | Geneva store. It wasn't quite as vast as the store in my memory,
       | perhaps due to the whole "growing up" thing, or perhaps Geneva
       | just isn't as big as Park Ridge. But it was every bit as magical.
       | Packed to the gills with obscure stuff, quirky signage and decor,
       | and tempting prices. And I could see other young scientists and
       | engineers prowling the aisles, getting their hands on surplus
       | that cost some business megabucks when it was new, turning these
       | weird mechanisms over in their hands until they made sense,
       | synthesizing new uses...
        
       | Quenby wrote:
       | I've always loved places like this. A bunch of weird little parts
       | that feel like digging through a forgotten treasure chest. Every
       | time, it's like unlocking a small piece of the world. Really hope
       | they can keep going. These kinds of imaginative little corners
       | are getting rarer and rarer these days.
        
       | Wistar wrote:
       | Years ago, my spouse thought I had marked an item in a sciplus
       | catalog and so bought it for me as a birthday gift. I unwrapped
       | it to find a plain brown box with an L-shaped metal fitting of
       | some sort with a single black insulated wire that's terminated
       | with a spade lug.
       | 
       | I have never figured out what it is.
        
         | rubit_xxx17 wrote:
         | Maybe to ground a metal workbench?
        
         | myself248 wrote:
         | We need a photo!
        
         | RankingMember wrote:
         | Sounds like a plumbus
        
       | tylervigen wrote:
       | If you're anywhere near Minnesota, this store has exactly the
       | same vibes as Ax Man Surplus: https://www.ax-
       | man.com/collections/all-products
       | 
       | Their website doesn't have it, but the handwritten joke signs in
       | the store are the best.
        
       | kragen wrote:
       | I knew them as Jerryco in my childhood:
       | 
       | > _And the business was launched as American Lens & Photo.
       | 
       | > After the Second World War the company expanded, fed by war
       | surplus. Eventually, Al opened a retail store on Chicago's
       | Northwest side called American Science Center and started
       | carrying educational science items.
       | 
       | > (...) In 1979 he started a catalog operation under the name
       | "Jerryco" and in 1981 he opened a second store, in Milwaukee._
        
       | swayvil wrote:
       | Nugatory Contrivances is a way better name imo. But ya, long live
       | them.
        
       | rubit_xxx17 wrote:
       | This fundraiser is important to many at HN, and I think it would
       | be good to consider having some new category of HN like "pinned"
       | for important things that shouldn't fall off quickly and allow
       | users to suggest a moderator "pin" a post. Similarly pinned
       | things would have "unpin" and a sufficient number of unpins would
       | signal to moderator to unpin it. I'm worried that not everyone
       | will see this because of the normal cycle of posts. You could
       | argue that the current way works well for most things, but
       | pinning is an important part of most forums.
        
       | vanattab wrote:
       | What a wonderfully weird store. If I ever need to buy an under
       | powered can opener,some screen protectors for my palm pilot and I
       | life size terracotta warrior for $1200 without going to multiple
       | places I know now where to go.
       | 
       | https://sciplus.com/screen-protectors-2-15-16-x-2-1-4-12-pac...
       | 
       | https://sciplus.com/under-powered-automatic-can-opener-for-p...
       | 
       | https://sciplus.com/lifesize-terra-cotta-warrior/?searchid=1...
        
       | os2warpman wrote:
       | AS&S survived for decades selling actual science and surplus, now
       | it seems their focus has shifted to alibaba junk consumer goods
       | and flea market reject merchandise.
       | 
       | A decade ago if you searched for toggle switches on their website
       | you would have gotten dozens and dozens of results.
       | 
       | Now there are six, and only two of them are actual toggle
       | switches.
       | 
       | Did all of the science and surplus run out?
        
         | godzillabrennus wrote:
         | The demand ran out. Gen Z and Gen Alpha don't know how this
         | stuff works.
        
           | _dark_matter_ wrote:
           | What a ridiculous comment. Of course lots of Gen Zers know
           | how electronics work. The oldest Gen alphaers turned 15 this
           | year.
        
         | joezydeco wrote:
         | I'm guessing the surplus ran out. I would go to the Chicago
         | area stores a lot and could easily recognize which companies
         | were dumping spare/reject assemblies and other shrapnel related
         | to their work. Those companies all moved to Mexico or Asia, so
         | there's nothing left to dump.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | That sort of happened with Army surplus stores too for
           | largely different reasons. Don't even know of one around
           | where I live any longer.
        
           | gopher_space wrote:
           | There's more competition and no real need for companies to do
           | online or reserve sales of their surplus. They might have
           | been able to place orders or holds previously.
        
             | joezydeco wrote:
             | The "surplus" at AS&S was more about _manufacturing_
             | surplus. Spare parts and bulbs, loose switches and chips,
             | wires, unpopulated PCBs with mystery origins, etc.
        
         | some_random wrote:
         | I'm not familiar with the science surplus side, but on the
         | militaria side the answer is basically yes. There absolutely is
         | still a ton of surplus but it's nowhere near as cheap and
         | limitless as it used to be.
        
         | BizarroLand wrote:
         | Aside from everyone else's replies, there's also the fact that
         | the niche is smaller now.
         | 
         | Instead of companies dumping their excess stock on whoever
         | offers to buy it, instead they're dumping it all on Amazon and
         | ebay. A little more work but they get more money for it,
         | meaning that there is less new overstock to go around.
         | 
         | I hope they make it, we need more stores with personality like
         | American Science. I plan on making a trip out that way now that
         | I know where it's located.
        
       | jonathanrmumm wrote:
       | Remember my dad taking me here all the time and being amazed by
       | aisles full of bins of random parts. Made you want to tinker.
        
       | wellthisisgreat wrote:
       | Anything like this in New York?
        
       | uxp100 wrote:
       | I have spent many afternoons going to Lost World of Wonders,
       | American Science and Surplus, and the thrift next door is decent
       | too. Maybe cap it off with mediocre tacos at Taqueria Buenavista,
       | or go to West Allis Cheese and Sausage. Fun times in west Allis.
       | 
       | However, tbh, ASS isn't that great. I wish it was better.
       | Weirder. Larger. People have been posting about other stores such
       | as Weird Stuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale, and tbh, that was way more
       | interesting on the tech side. I've got some milsurp bags there I
       | like, and occasionally an electronics part or two, but it's just
       | ok. I bought a pretty nice vacuum there once too. So I'll miss it
       | if it goes, but I kinda get why.
        
       | salynchnew wrote:
       | Tangentially related: SCRAP in SF is looking for a new location.
       | 
       | https://www.scrap-sf.org/newhome
        
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