[HN Gopher] WavePhoenix - open-source implementation of the Nint...
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       WavePhoenix - open-source implementation of the Nintendo WaveBird
       protocol
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 80 points
       Date   : 2025-05-26 15:37 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | bilekas wrote:
       | Ooh this is fun actually will check this out. I have my Gamecube
       | gathering dust somewhere, great excuse to bring it out.
       | 
       | I'm half joking, but the cynic in me worries that a company line
       | Nintento will have some patents on something here and not
       | appreciate the MIT licensing.
        
         | zorked wrote:
         | The WaveBird controller was released over 20 years ago, so a
         | any patent protection it could have is gone.
         | 
         | Also, not a reason not to do things.
        
         | kop316 wrote:
         | I thought about implementing something similar (I read through
         | the reverse engineering docs).
         | 
         | All of the information was done through clean room reverse
         | engineering (the reason it took so long for something like this
         | is that Nintendo used a very wonky wireless protocol). As such,
         | I don't see what they could sue for, as that is entirely legal
         | (at least in the US).
        
           | roblabla wrote:
           | Well clean-room reverse engineering doesn't protect you from
           | patent infringement - only for copyright related issues. I
           | don't think that's a real concern for your project though, as
           | patents only last for 20 years, so most if not all patents
           | related to the WaveBird should have expired already.
           | 
           | Of course, I am not a lawyer :^).
        
         | simlevesque wrote:
         | BlueRetro GameCube has been around for quite some time.
         | 
         | https://github.com/darthcloud/BlueRetro
        
         | loopj wrote:
         | I have two things going for me here, 1) this was completely
         | clean room reverse engineered, and 2) the patents have all
         | expired!
        
       | iopapa wrote:
       | Finally some love for the best controller ever made. Name of the
       | project is also great. Hope to see some usb version of the dongle
       | hw that supports multiple controllers.
        
       | simlevesque wrote:
       | Available for preorders as premade devices here:
       | https://www.laserbear.net/products/wavephoenix-replacement-w...
        
       | someperson wrote:
       | Is it theoretically possible for a driver to be written for the
       | Wii to support dongleless play with the "Nintendont" homebrew
       | app?
       | 
       | It would of course require driver modifications, and I don't know
       | if the existing 2.4GHz radio is capable of this, but likely
       | possible with custom firmware for the radio chip.
        
       | someperson wrote:
       | This is fantastic because there a large amount of WaveBirds
       | controllers in existence which are missing their dongles.
        
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