[HN Gopher] Programming on 34 Keys (2022)
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Programming on 34 Keys (2022)
Author : todsacerdoti
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Date : 2025-05-25 12:35 UTC (10 hours ago)
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| stephendause wrote:
| My coworker has a similar setup and loves it. Personally, it
| feels diametrically opposed to the way that I like to use my
| keyboard. I don't even like holding Shift to type `{`, `_`, etc
| when programming. I wish I had dedicated keys for those and other
| common symbols. I don't mind moving my hands a few inches at all,
| but for some reason, it feels cumbersome to me to hold down a key
| to activate another layer. To each their own, of course.
| _def wrote:
| I guess that's why the thumbs get used here to activate the
| other layers. I have to try it, but thinking about it it seems
| way more ergonomic compared to the usual position of the shift
| key
| Hojojo wrote:
| This is definitely the case. Since the layer key is at the
| thumb, it doesn't require moving your hand and you barely
| need to move your thumb. As somebody who suffers from wrist
| pain, this makes a huge difference.
| layer8 wrote:
| Unfortunately I developed beginning arthrosis in my thumbs,
| so pressing space is about the most I can subject them to.
| linsomniac wrote:
| Foot pedals?
| layer8 wrote:
| Those are slower than fingers and can't be used as
| fluidly, in particular when using them as modifiers for
| keys typed with the fingers with normal typing speed.
| Jeff_Brown wrote:
| Drummers do it. It takes some training because the nerve
| to your foot is longer than the one to your hand, but
| with good audible feedback it can be done. (If your feet
| are a meter farther from your ears then the sound from
| them takes 3 ms longer to be heard. Nobody types that
| fast but I'd you wanted a truer signal you could generate
| one in software.)
| layer8 wrote:
| Not sure about the drummer analogy, because we don't type
| in a rhythm. Hands and feet can maintain the same rhythm,
| and that has the effect that their actions can coincide
| with high precision. For arhythmic actions, my experience
| is it's more difficult to synchronize to the typical
| subsecond precision for typing. For example, drum your
| fingers on a table in sequence, and then try to replace
| one of the fingers with your foot. It is magnitudes
| slower. While training will improve it, I don't think it
| will be able to match the finger drumming, unless you
| introduce a longer-running rhythm. Keyboard shortcuts are
| similar.
| James_K wrote:
| What actually has way more of an impact that that is having
| the home-row keys set to the modifiers. The best part is that
| it works even with regular keyboard, you just need to have
| some kind of hot-key tool running on your computer.
| theroncross wrote:
| There's a non-obvious, but significant, difference between
| holding with a thumb in a neutral position and holding with a
| pinky in a stretched position. Layers become effortless on a
| keyboard like this.
| Hojojo wrote:
| I have my layer switch key configured to require only a button
| press, then the next key I type will be from that layer. So I
| don't have to hold it down. It's so much more comfortable to
| use special symbols this way. I've also done this for my shift
| key.
| layer8 wrote:
| I agree. I also developed serious RSI from overuse of modifiers
| and cords. Not everyone's RSI is the same, but just as a
| caveat.
| lawn wrote:
| I suggest you look into combos (press multiple keys as an extra
| key).
|
| For example, I don't hold to type either { or _ or any symbol
| (O can hold of I type multiple symbols in a row though).
|
| https://www.jonashietala.se/blog/2024/11/26/the_current_cybe...
| FrankWilhoit wrote:
| Are there, really, developers whose productivity is _first and
| foremost_ constrained by _how fast they can type?_ If so, what
| else is known about them? What class of problems are they working
| on?
| spooneybarger wrote:
| I use a layout like this and I'm slower than on a traditional
| qwerty layout. OTOH, I also have far fewer RSI problems.
|
| Speed is rarely a consideration in the community.
| bowsamic wrote:
| Changing keyboard ergonomics is absolutely not the way to
| deal with RSI. You should instead go to the gym and do proper
| physio exercises
| jerrygenser wrote:
| If you have small hands and you are stretching for
| delet/backspace and a small kb allows you to hit this key
| without strain, it absolutely helps with strain on fingers.
|
| I tried many things over the years including other
| ergonomics and gym etc.
|
| Changing to a smaller split keyboard helped the most and I
| have not had pain since.
|
| Granted mine has about 50 keys or so so it's not as
| extreme.
| jpc0 wrote:
| If you hand is in a position that is putting any of your
| anatomy at a weird angle no amount of exercise is going to
| sort that out.
| bowsamic wrote:
| It's the opposite, actually
| danieldk wrote:
| Going to a split, key well board, solved my wrist issues. I
| had severe issues on a traditional row stagger keyboard and
| they have just gone. The only time I feel discomfort is
| when I type on a row stagger keyboard again for two weeks
| (e.g. when taking my laptop with me during a trip).
| aarroyoc wrote:
| It's not mutually exclusive but getting into the right
| posture is key. Otherwise you're just fighting against it
| constantly. That's why most doctors advise for change of
| habits as the first thing to look for. This is sometimes
| difficult as we want to keep doing the same things but
| changing keyboards ergonomics is a thing you can try. In
| fact my doctor was the one to suggest that for me.
|
| Most keyboards have not spent a single thought on
| ergonomics, unlike chairs where it is common. There's not a
| lot of real research in this area and there are
| contradicting theories (some physicians even say that
| creating muscle in certain areas like the neck is not worth
| in the long term). Microsoft ergonomic keyboards have some
| studies behind and many people report success on split and
| column staggered keyboards.
| bowsamic wrote:
| I've never come across a doctor who doesn't start by
| advising physio exercises
| cultofmetatron wrote:
| > You should instead go to the gym and do proper physio
| exercises
|
| wish more people would heed this advice. my wrists are jsut
| as good as when I was in my 20's. in my early thirties I
| was starting to develop issues. they went away as soon as I
| started deadlifting and pullups regularly.
| bowsamic wrote:
| People will do anything to not address the fundamental
| weaknesses that are the true causes of their issues. They
| have wrist pain so they try and fix their wrist with
| crazy setups, even though they have huge tightness in
| their traps and never do any strength training. It barely
| needs anything either, just light strength, high reps low
| weight. Your wrists can take any keyboard and setup if
| you don't avoid physio
| codr7 wrote:
| I don't know about the gym, lifting weights is just another
| way to ruin your body imo.
|
| Yoga, climbing, martial arts, swimming; there's no end of
| fun activities that lead somewhere while keeping you in
| physical shape.
| bowsamic wrote:
| It's an obsessive thing imo, I don't think it's actually rooted
| in a practical thing. They're just trying to justify an
| addiction
| anttiharju wrote:
| Everyone needs hobbies
| yoyohello13 wrote:
| One man's addiction is another man's hobby.
| jinay wrote:
| I used to think that typing speed was not really that
| important, especially when now we have so many LLMs doing the
| typing for us. But honestly, now I think it's even more
| important because the specificity and detail in your prompts
| are paramount to getting a good response, and something like a
| dictation tool (which is what I'm using right now) is really
| good for generating very specific prompts.
|
| In fact, I wrote all this out using a dictation tool in ~20
| seconds (258 WPM).
| carlinm wrote:
| Curious, what dictation tool are you using?
| carlmr wrote:
| Same, 258wpm is something.
| arcanemachiner wrote:
| FYI I wrote a comment in the same thread where I described
| the tools I use (TLDR: Whisper).
| jinay wrote:
| https://github.com/JinayJain/dictator
|
| Built one for myself. It's context-aware and promptable.
|
| Tested well on Linux, not so much on other platforms but in
| theory should support them.
|
| It's a bit meta but I wrote it mostly using Claude Code.
| Once I had an MVP, I was able to prompt much faster by just
| speaking out what I wanted it to change.
| arcanemachiner wrote:
| Agreed. I installed Whisper on my Linux computer with a
| program called SpeechNote. The dictation is all done offline,
| and it is astonishingly good.
|
| I also have a whisper dictation app on my Android phone (the
| app's ID string is 'org.woheller69.whisper', there's a few
| Whisper apps with the same name "Whisper", but this one is my
| favorite).
|
| FWIW this was typed by hand on my phone, but these apps are
| both amazing.
| lawn wrote:
| It's about comfort, not speed. Moving to a minimalistic
| keyboard did wonders for me RSI.
| throwaway71271 wrote:
| For me its not how fast I can type, my brain(ADHD or whatever
| this is) needs certain flow of speed; I think of something and
| want to type it, if I am delayed (e.g. imagine I change from
| qwerty to dvorak and am still learning) for whatever reason,
| e.g. key is stuck, my mind goes somewhere else, and then I have
| to "bring it back".
|
| Also as I am typing one thing I am thinking of another, or even
| third, so if something goes wrong with the mechanics of the
| first thing, then whole set of dominoes fall and I have to go
| back.
|
| Sometimes for a given thought I even type 3rd of 4th word
| instead of the first if for some reason my keys are not
| pressed. And then I type a word from the next thought and etc.
| It even gives me anxiety.
|
| As I am typing the code, I am thinking about the code that is
| going to use the it, and then the code one layer up, I also
| think of the machine itself, its wires, cache lines, or I think
| of how the variable I am typing now is related to its
| surroundings, I imagine a ladder to the moon each step with its
| address, and I think how far are things from "me", and so on.
|
| I cant speak of others, but for me keyboard layout and even key
| feeling/rythm is important just because it allows me to think
| uninterrupted.
| throwaway71271 wrote:
| btw thats why I hated the old butterfly keyboards, a tiny
| crumb gets in and then the probability of a key drops to like
| 80%, or sometimes it double presses.
|
| I am very happy that apple moved away from the quest of
| making the keyboard 0 height.
| yoyohello13 wrote:
| Just because it's not the main bottleneck doesn't mean it's not
| worth optimizing. Also, yes I have seen devs that type so
| slowly they really would benefit from learning how to type
| properly.
|
| I actually switched to an alternative layout and minimal
| keyboard like this just because it's fun. If I can make my work
| day more fun, that's a win in my book.
| rgoulter wrote:
| Conversely, do you think there are developers who would not
| benefit from being able to type quicker?
| carlmr wrote:
| I find fast typing is super important to my programming, not
| because I need to write walls of text, but because if I get
| into a flow state, I find it irritating if my thoughts are
| constrained by my typing speed.
| NobodyNada wrote:
| It's not about how fast you can type, it's about how
| _effortlessly_ you can type.
|
| Programming involves long periods of thinking interrupted by
| short periods of typing. Anything you can do to reduce the
| mental effort of typing reduces the impact of this interruption
| to your train of thought.
|
| Try programming by hunt-and-peck typing -- it's certainly
| possible, but having to think about putting each individual
| character on the screen is incredibly tedious and distracting.
| This is why people learn things like Vim motions or minimalist
| keyboard layouts -- anything that speeds up the feedback loop
| between your brain and your code is an improvement. It's not a
| _drastic_ difference, but it 's significant enough that I now
| feel mildly annoyed using a regular keyboard when I have to
| move _my whole arm_ to reach the arrow keys rather than having
| them right under my fingers on the home row.
| kfrane wrote:
| Typing speed might not seem that important if you're looking at
| the speed of typing and the overall amount of code that an
| engineer produces that ends up in a PR. But it might take 10x
| more code that are ephemeral versions that lead up to the full
| solution. If you're very comfortable with typing and editor
| commands to manipulate code efficiently then you can iterate
| faster, creating more intermediate versions of the code that
| then lead to better overall solutions just because you've tried
| out more stuff.
| anxoo wrote:
| of course not. it's fun to mod and geek out about random
| topics.
|
| i also assume that if you have RSI/carpal tunnel/etc then
| experimenting with your keyboards switches from negative
| switching costs to greatly positive
| linsomniac wrote:
| I recently replaced all my decade old consumer-level battery
| power tools with contractor-level ones. The old tools were fine
| to use, but the new ones are just an absolute joy to use. Some
| of that is just better design and build, some of that is just
| my perception, but in any case I love using them more.
|
| My "fancy" keyboard is a lot like that. It lets me do some
| customizations that I really enjoy (ctrl when I hold z and /,
| esc + win next to a and ', "CAPS WORD", using thumbs for more
| than just space). I just enjoy using it more. Though it does
| have a few rough edges I probably need to see if I can fix, I
| _CAN_ fix them.
|
| I am however thinking that I probably would prefer one of the
| low-profile ones that is more like a laptop keyboard keys, the
| regular Cherry Blue desktop keys I feel like I'm tripping over
| a lot.
| James_K wrote:
| There are developers whose wrists explode after years of
| holding down the shift and control keys. I honestly can't
| recommend a split keyboard enough from an ergonomics
| perspective. It's even more practical than a regular keyboard.
| You can put drinks or food in between the two halves, and if
| you get one using laptop-style low-profile switches you can put
| it in your pocket and take it with you anywhere on the go.
| Combined with some of those Android apps that give you a VTT
| and you can fit an entire coding set up in your pocket.
| FireSquid2006 wrote:
| I'm one of the people that uses neovim, a tiling window manager
| on nixos, and a weird split keyboard.
|
| It's true that it will lead to healthier wrists and more
| productivity, but thats not the point. I know people with
| incredibly unergonomic setups and habits (vscode with membrane
| keyboard and a chronic overuse of the mouse) that get around
| the same or more actual features implemented as me. There might
| even be something to be said for more friction forcing you to
| think more.
|
| The reason most of us do it (at least if we are honest with
| ourselves) is because it's fun---and that's ok. Jumping around
| in vim on a split keyboard gives me the same joy that watching
| my first lines of code execute in Gamemaker Studio 2 did in 8th
| grade.
|
| It's always worth investing to make your work joyful.
| userbinator wrote:
| Communicating with coworkers efficiently is important for
| productivity too. While it's true that average speeds are low,
| I think the ability to quickly and effortlessly write out code
| or paragraphs of prose when needed is important to
| productivity.
| magarnicle wrote:
| Yes: https://danluu.com/productivity-velocity/
| xkriva11 wrote:
| ColorForth environment uses only 27 keys. See
| https://www.greenarraychips.com/home/documents/greg/cf-edito...
| gryn wrote:
| I started using (programming and everything else) with a 34key
| keyboard with miryoku layout with inverted T arrow keys & native
| mouse emulation layer enabled around 2years ago and I haven't
| looked back. it's more comfortable, it fixed my pathological
| touch typing too.
|
| for those a want to give it a try, here are my the problems I
| encountered so far:
|
| - stuff like Figma where you need to keep holding the space bar
| to change editing modes, won't work you need to make you custom
| (single purpose) space button if you want it.
|
| - you can't play video games, unless you make you own custom
| layer or give each game a custom key bindings. I don't game much
| and when I do I use a gamepad so this haven't been much of a
| bother for much of bother for me but if you do It's something to
| keep in mind.
|
| - the MCU boards that are available are very finicky, the
| nice!nano breaks easily I bought multiple replacements, they are
| very heat senstive. I had pins die, the charging circuit die on
| multiple ocasions in different boards. also I think using the
| mill-max pin was a mistake on my part even if it was the
| recommendation, they more expensive, annoying and you can't just
| plug them in a breadboard to test & debug them. on the web
| there's also an alternative commendation to use the leftover
| metal parts of the resistances/diodes. I would also recommend
| against it, with time the connections to the board start
| disconnecting since you probably won't cut all of them to the
| same exact length and that they wiggle inside the mill-max pin
| sockets. just use the standard ones that are used in most PCBs
| even if they are bigger.
|
| - avoid using jack connectors to connect the sleeves, they can
| fry your MCUs and when they don't with time they give out and
| they start to disconnect and need time to reconnect and it makes
| for a bad user experience.
|
| - if you make a wireless keyboard don't add LED backlights or
| individual per key LEDs they significantly drain your battery
| life even when you're not using them.
|
| - Bluetooth connection is still somewhat unreliable, having
| something with wireless 2,4ghz would be better but I don't think
| there's an open source solution for that which is off the shelf,
| so if you want it you'll probably to make your own or tweak
| something from somewhere else.
|
| I want to make a keyboard like the one that was submitted here a
| few weeks or months ago that takes these notes into account but I
| haven't found the time or the motivation. EDIT: this one
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43255529
|
| I've also seen some people sell some open-source versions in ali
| express recently for around 60eur pre-assembled. I haven't
| ordered one so I'm not recommending it, just curious if anyone
| here ever did.
| abhinavk wrote:
| > - stuff like Figma where you need to keep holding the space
| bar to change editing modes, won't work you need to make you
| custom (single purpose) space button if you want it.
|
| https://zmk.dev/docs/keymaps/behaviors/hold-tap#quick-tap-ms
| should work.
| danieldk wrote:
| Some observations from someone who has also used minimalist
| layouts on similar keyboards for a while:
|
| - Thumbs can also get overuse. I would generally only recommend
| to use one key for each thumb very frequently to avoid too much
| lateral movement. Also don't go overboard with layer holds on
| thumbs.
|
| - The thumb key placement on some of these boards, e.g. the
| placement of the inner thumb key on the Ferris-based keyboard in
| the linked post, is quite disastrous. Unless you have very small
| hands, the thumb will be very close to the palm or even under the
| palm, and this can get very painful over longer periods. Even
| worse is that if you type very fast, the index finger can cross
| the thumb. Just try it a few times. If you keep your thumb on the
| thumb key while doing that, there is a lot of tension in the
| fingers.
|
| - The obsession with minimalist layouts is to minimize
| finger/hand movement. But I could find not much evidence in the
| scientific literature that less movement is actually good. It's
| also a huge trade-off, because you end up with a lot of holds
| (which are probably not great for your fingers either) or
| additional key presses (Callum mods). There are also other ways
| to decrease finger travel, like using a key well keyboard, which
| not only reduces distances, but also puts your fingers in a more
| natural resting position and makes the finger movements more
| natural (since keys are laid out along the natural arcs of the
| fingers) [1].
|
| I went away from small keyboards and minimalist layouts. I
| certainly use far fewer keys than most people and some layers.
| But I have found that key well boards make more keys reachable
| and have superior ergonomics.
|
| Also, if you have a finger/hand issue as a result of
| keyboard/mouse use, visit a medical expert, not
| /r/ergomechkeyboards .
|
| (I am _not_ a health /ergonomics expert, just speaking from
| experience. Though it's probably best to ignore this and consult
| an expert.)
|
| [1] There is a lot of pseudo-science in the whole ergo keyboard
| community, with folk wisdom like "Dactyl-style squeeze thumb
| clusters are better, because we naturally squeeze our thumbs to
| grab objects", meanwhile a lot of folks had thumb injuries from
| that type of cluster. The only types of keyboards that I could
| find research papers about were Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard-
| style boards, which seem to have their design decisions grounded
| in actual human trials and some of the early Maltron keyboards.
| cenamus wrote:
| The navigation and symbol layer (not the limited number of keys)
| seem very reminiscent of the Neo layouts.
|
| In german, but should be clear enough: https://www.neo-
| layout.org/
| pandastronaut wrote:
| I am always amazed by the dedication and craftmanship that
| keyboard enthusiasts put in their creation.
|
| In the meantime, I have spent my life following the opposite path
| : minimizing all form of customization so that I can switch
| computer at any time without feeling lost or missing something (
| I have to use computers from several clients all the time).
| whartung wrote:
| I am absolutely in this camp.
|
| I won't say I never customize things, but, 99.99% of things, I
| do not customize.
|
| I just cope with what's there, make do.
|
| E.g. the limit of my emacs customization is Slime for Lisp
| (and, honestly, it took me several years to pull that trigger).
|
| Same reason I learned vi a zillion years ago, while my friend
| was pushing emacs. I had to jump around random Unix boxen as a
| daily thing, and they weren't mine.
| CTDOCodebases wrote:
| I'm 100% this for software.
|
| Living off the land with minimal customization.
| eddd-ddde wrote:
| On my main keyboard I can activate custom "layers" by holding
| some special keys, then each layer turns every other key into a
| special binding.
|
| I have so many shortcuts programmed that whenever I'm working
| directly on my laptop's keyboard I found myself pressing wrong
| keys expecting it to do something different. It's really funny
| how muscle memory works.
| CTDOCodebases wrote:
| You can do both.
|
| I use to type on 60 key boards using layers but when I switched
| to using a laptop keyboard it would mess me up as I used caps
| lock to switch layers and I had a navigation layer that used
| hjkl for arrows.
|
| So what I changed to a TKL 80 key keyboard for QWERTY and then
| use Colemak Mod-DH on my split (Cantor Remix).
|
| The result is I can type on both due to the context switch. So
| if I need to use a QWERTY board I am fine.
|
| Also my golden rule with split keyboards is I only use open
| source designs. I don't want to invest time into a layout if
| the keyboard isn't going to be available in the future.
| lawn wrote:
| So then you'd have to be comfortable with multiple operating
| systems, IDEs and to some extent keyboard layouts.
|
| If you use a custom keyboard (and layout) then you only have
| one extra thing to learn.
|
| I can still use VSCode and a regular keyboard/layout but I
| still maintain my own custom keyboard layout and highly
| configured Neovim setup.
| mihaaly wrote:
| Exactly!
|
| Dependence on special hardware instead of generally available
| ones is the making of future trouble for yourself.
|
| Also in collaborative environments allowing others to work on
| your computer, assisting you in an easy way, is important.
|
| For people working 40 years alone in a remote cellar the exact
| very same way throughout, and making several reserve clone of
| the unique and specialist hardware replacing the worn out ones,
| this could be ok.
| pandastronaut wrote:
| That's also part of my reasoning. I don't want to feel
| uncomfortable because of whatever customization I would be
| missing or make other people unable to use whatever
| environment or computer I work with. Most of the time, I am
| not allowed to plug a personal device or modify the setup
| anyway.
|
| But I am cool with people that customize everything, from
| software to hardware, as long as this is not in the path of
| other people. Everyone can find its one and best way to work
| :)
| James_K wrote:
| My keyboard fits in my pocket. I never have to deal with using
| a computer that doesn't have it. And, as a bonus feature, you
| look like a mega-hacker when you take some hand-soldered
| circuit-board-looking keyboard out of your pockets with blank
| keycaps and plug it into a computer.
| mrbenjihao wrote:
| I feel that most tend to not realize that typing on a keyboard
| like this actually forces you to type correctly. In the past I've
| gotten by through my own typing style, however since moving to
| this type of split keyboard I've found myself using every finger
| to a much greater degree - especially my pinkies.
| ivanjermakov wrote:
| I got my typing style fixed this way. Not because of a split
| design, but because of ortholinear design. It makes so much
| sense to have columns vertically align, since there is no
| ambiguity what key to press.
| hackernudes wrote:
| I didn't see any way to type function keys (f1, etc...). I see
| some of the allure of minimalist keyboards but when I imagine
| myself using it it seems painful.
| CTDOCodebases wrote:
| The firmware that is loaded on these devices is _very_
| configurable.
|
| There are layers and double/quick/long tap keys that can let
| you add these keys to the layers.
|
| To use keyboard shortcuts though you need to put a lot of
| thought into the layout and what shortcuts you use.
|
| The payoff is better ergonomics. No bent wrists (if you type
| that way) and open chest when typing and less slouching. It
| opens up a multitude of options e.g. mount the keyboard halves
| to the sides or arms of your desk chair and code on your
| loungeroom TV or supine computing.
|
| The downsides is the time spend configuring a layout and
| learning it.
| ivanjermakov wrote:
| I have my f key layer set up very similarly to digit layer, so
| that 1-9 and f1-f9 are the same keys, just on different layers.
| dang wrote:
| Discussed at the time:
|
| _Programming on 34 Keys_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32648245 - Aug 2022 (69
| comments)
| James_K wrote:
| I've been doing a similar thing for a while now, but I have a
| 36-key board. I take a slightly different approach to the one in
| this article, namely I just have the space key on the left thumb
| cluster to raise to a layer with the numbers on the home-row
| keys, and then I have the Shift+Number combinations that you
| would have on a normal keyboard. I mainly do this so that I'm not
| completely at sea when typing on a regular board, though one of
| the great advantages of a 36-keyer (and mine uses low profile
| laptop switches) is that you can just put it in your pocket and
| take it around with you. You can cover all of the standard typing
| symbols in just two layers which are nicely similar to that of a
| regular keyboard (and if you use Vim keys, that's all you need).
| lolive wrote:
| Remapping my CapsLock as a layer activator has been the best idea
| of my life.
|
| [CapsLock+Space=Enter, CapsLock+jklm=arrows,
| CapsLock+uiop=Backspace,PgDn,PgUp,Delete.
| CapsLock+1-9=FunctionKeys. All that on a 60% AZERTY keyboard.]
|
| Highly recommended !
|
| [Just added CapsLock+f=. and CapsLock+u=/ , as they are
| particularly impractical characters to type on a french keyboard]
| userbinator wrote:
| Looking at things like this is like gazing into an alien world. I
| wonder if people who do this are able to use a regular keyboard
| layout, or if their muscle memory has been completely replaced
| with that of their custom input device. A standard full-size
| keyboard works best for me, having experienced the frustration
| that is modern laptops' castrated layouts.
| magarnicle wrote:
| I'm most of the way to OP for my work keyboard, but at home I
| just use a regular keyboard as it's shared with family members.
| I have no problem switching, apart from very occasionally
| holding down f and expecting that to be shift.
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