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Show HN: DoubleMemory - more efficient local-first read-it-later
app
DoubleMemory started as an experiment to see if I can somehow
automatically save all double cmd + c, as I often do instinctively,
so I don't need extensions to save links and text into an app, and
avoiding flooding the capture history as regular clipboard managers
does. My motivation was not to create a read-it-later app, yet it
evolved into this unique yet cohesive form of a read-it-later +
bookmarking organizer + clipboard manager + card based note-taking
app over the last 6 months. It also launches from the menu bar with
a shortcut and navigates with keyboard shortcuts. My favorite part
is instead of rendering a list of article titles, everything is
rendered as pretty preview cards in a translucent Pinterest-like
mood board. It also has a nifty iOS app, that will allow you to
swipe with your thumbs between articles just like on iOS Safari...
Now that Pocket is closing, this is after Instapaper going back to
indie and Omnivore and UpNext and numerous others closing over the
years. All of these are cloud-hosted services, which got me
reflecting: maybe this local-first architecture would be well
positioned to build in this space. Here is my not-so-scientific
comparison: ## Domain $10 vs $1M = 100,000x difference. ##
Server running cost No servers other than what's running by iCloud
vs $1M per year = 1mX difference ## Platforms Apple only (mac +
iphone + ipad) vs Multi platforms (windows, linux, android also
supported) = 20X maintenance cost difference ## Capturing No
browser extensions required v.s. maintain all extensions for
various browsers and extension stores = 5x difference ##
Architecture App receives the link, Apple generates the rich
preview cards for thousands of different types of links, app caches
these preview cards. vs. Someone write some custom code for each
link type or with Open Graph, one designer created one generic card
that works for all links. = 100x cost difference. I know, Apple is
coming for clipboards with more restrictions, which is basically a
shared global state on Mac systems, DoubleMemory does also support
other ways to capture: drag-n-drop to app/menubar icon/app icon,
right click->Services menu, or Share sheet. We will add more auto-
importers. Also vibe coded some importers for Pocket, Omnivore and
ReadWise here: https://doublememory.com/posts/tools Everything in
the app is free with no limits. Capturing is really step 0. You
giving us a chance to save your content, doesn't mean you are
getting any values out of it (ain't that the typical story of read-
it-later apps? save-it and never-read-it). the eventual goal is to
easily retrieve these content, and eventually consuming them. I
hope to eventually launch paid features that aligns with these
value generating workflows. App Store link:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/doublememory/id6737529034 Let me
know what you think...
Author : randomor
Score : 153 points
Date : 2025-05-23 18:55 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (doublememory.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (doublememory.com)
| randomor wrote:
| I'll be available here if you have questions.
| loremm wrote:
| would love support for linux, even if it required hacks or was
| not as seamless
| randomor wrote:
| I'd love to do that one day. Right now trying to find out if
| it's interesting enough for 1% of Apple users to turn their
| heads.
| mkbkn wrote:
| Count me in too, for Linux, Android etc.
|
| Also, would like a one-time lifetime pricing if that makes
| sense.
| kstrauser wrote:
| That looks pretty neat! I haven't played around with it yet, but
| here's some preliminary feedback:
|
| * "[?] + C + C", to me, means "press cmd-C, then press C". It
| look me a minute to release it means "press cmd-C twice".
|
| * Thank you for using iCloud sync!
|
| * Your privacy policy says "The developer does not collect any
| data from this app.". _Thank you!_
|
| * The pricing feels high to me. I'm mentally comparing it to
| PastePal (clipboard manager, one-time $15 payment) plus GoodLinks
| (bookmarks manager, $5 per year to buy upgrades, but you can use
| it forever for free). I know it's not an exact comparison, but as
| someone who might really like your app, that's how I personally
| think of it.
| alkh wrote:
| Agree with with everything, if there was a way to use something
| besides icloud that would be very appreciated. I have nothing
| against it but the more options there are, the better.
| randomor wrote:
| True. More options and more controls always better, just need
| to balance priorities. What specific sync options are you
| thinking?
| randomor wrote:
| Thanks for these feedback. I'll take note.
|
| About the pricing, I just realized my introduction pricing has
| expired last night. I just created one again for $9.99 for the
| first year. However, I'm definitely exploring pricing, but as I
| mentioned right now the sub is simply a way for me to gather
| signal for interests, no features are behind paywalls, you only
| benefit of subbing right now is lock-in the early price and
| remove the sub button. I'll be working on real value generating
| features in the future.
|
| Long term, I'm hoping to implement fair and incremental
| upgrades, it just takes more setup.... My current pricing is
| kinda anchored with ReadWise & Paste, which are 200% more than
| what I charge. I'm also guessing many people are looking for a
| lifetime purchase, I'll definitely work on that at some point,
| people who've subscribed will be able to redeem it directly
| with me once that's available.
| kebokyo wrote:
| What kind of "value-generating" features are you thinking of?
|
| One big comment I want to give on that front is, if you
| decide to try any generative AI features, please please
| please make them *completely opt-in* and integrate with
| *local models* (either completely or as an alternative to
| cloud models like GPT / Claude / etc). If I can use your
| software happily without being bombarded with ads for AI
| features and can use those AI features how I want to instead
| of how would best make you money, I would appreciate that so
| much.
| randomor wrote:
| You got it. Yes, AI will be a good piece of the puzzle.
| Local models is exactly what I prefer, if you haven't
| notice, that's a big principle of this app. I'm really
| hoping Apple can step in and offer a local model so I don't
| have to download one big blob. Supporting Ollama sounds
| cool but I feel like that's a big barrier for many... BYOK
| also nice, but at that point why not just build a MCP
| interface instead of building another flavor of AI chat?
| Otherwise I'm thinking about embedding all items so it's
| easier to: auto-generate tags, cluster by topics etc...
| asadm wrote:
| as initial step, just do some "rag" / vector db thing ie.
| no llm. see chrome's embedded model and how it works.
| kstrauser wrote:
| That makes a lot of sense. And I'm not saying your current
| pricing is _wrong_. I'm just some rando. What do I know?
|
| I'd definitely prefer a lifetime purchase, or even an option
| to pay to unlock new features for the next year and then keep
| those features forever, like GoodLinks does. I'm a huge fan
| of that pricing model.
| randomor wrote:
| Of course, I appreciate your perspective and am constantly
| collecting data points. I'll get to the pricing model
| experiments. Now that Apple is opening up third party
| payment, maybe I'll finally looking into third party
| subscription SDKs...
| linsomniac wrote:
| I tried it last night and was ready to drop $20 to buy it,
| but a subscription is a hard sell for me (and this may just
| be me personally, but I thought I'd give feedback).
| Subscriptions feel like baggage, instead of getting a thing I
| get a chore. Something I have to manage, decide if I want to
| keep using every year, remember to cancel if I'm not,
| remember to cancel _BEFORE_ it charges again. Also (not
| saying this is you, but) the places that make unsubscribing
| hard kind of poison subscriptions for everyone.
|
| I'd be happier with a "buy version 1.x", and then if you
| decide to do features that justify a version 2.x buy the
| upgrade at that time, assuming the upgrades are worth it to
| me. That's my preferred way to support ongoing development.
|
| That said, there is the non-pro version and that's probably
| what I should do, and see if it "sticks" enough to buy.
| mdonahoe wrote:
| Copycopy?
| randomor wrote:
| Is that a nickname? :D
|
| Yes the magic command is copy twice within 5 seconds. It can be
| cmd + C via keyboard or context menu copy, anything updates
| your clipboard twice with identical content will be triggering
| it. You can always disable it conflicts with other workflows or
| apps.
| steezeburger wrote:
| This is really cool. I self host a bookmark manager that has
| extensions and bookmarklets for mobile, but I really love
| your idea of cmd + c twice. How does it work on iOS? Or is
| the app just for viewing the bookmarks?
|
| I use ClipMenu to save clipboard history and will often copy
| a bunch of things one right after the other, and can use
| other shortcuts to easily select whole lines or expressions
| in my editor, so time between copy could be as little as
| 750ms I'd bet. Is the timeout configurable?
| randomor wrote:
| iOS doesn't have this clipboard magic of course, just
| relies on the regular share sheet. The most interesting
| part other than the waterfall layout is the swiping reader
| view, here is 30s video:
| https://x.com/randomor/status/1910111028865818664
|
| Yes it's configurable, between 1-10s, defaulted to 5s.
| G1N wrote:
| This is a really cool app! I wish you would also put your pricing
| information on the website (as far as I can tell the only way to
| discover this without downloading the app is by looking at the
| in-app purchases section on the App Store listing, apologies if I
| missed it on the website)
| randomor wrote:
| I'll take note, i'll add a pricing section and Q&A section
| soon. Thanks for the feedback. If you are a student, feel free
| to ping for a promo code.
| jonator wrote:
| Does it have an MCP server?
| randomor wrote:
| definitely want to get there soon, right now the most requested
| related features are apple shortcuts. Hopefully with the
| growing MCP ecosystem it will be a sweet MCP setup as we don't
| need a server or a node process.
| allenu wrote:
| Looks like a really interesting idea here! Congrats on shipping.
| I just downloaded it to play around with. The screenshots are
| well done and make the app feel like something exciting to try
| out.
|
| I would work on trying to simplifying the landing page copy,
| though. The "Stress-Free Bookmarking, Read-it-later, and
| Clipboard..." text is super long and most people aren't going to
| read the entire thing. I would try to emphasize what the benefit
| is to the user somehow. Something like "Save everything easily".
| That's terrible copy, too, but you get the idea. The "Super
| Memory Activated" and "doublememory.com" made me think at first
| that this is improving my computer's memory usage.
|
| After skimming the page, I kind of got the idea about what the
| product does, but I think you can make it even simpler to grok
| right away what it does with a few tweaks. Best of luck!
|
| Edit: one thing I noticed is I can do shift-cmd-spacebar to bring
| it up, but the search text field doesn't automatically get focus.
| That's a little bit of friction. If I do cmd-F to search, it
| toggles the filter UI, which was unexpected. I wanted to cmd-F to
| move the focus into the search to start typing.
| randomor wrote:
| That's gold. Thank you! Yes the refocusing can be unreliable.
| Currently the more reliable way is press tab to refocus. I'll
| work on the landing page, as that hasn't been updated for
| months and it's slightly outdated and didn't even highlight the
| now available iOS app.
| awaseem wrote:
| Wow I was just building something like this haha. This seems
| awesome, is it free? I can't tell from the site
| randomor wrote:
| it's free as long as you don't get distracted by the subscribe
| button, no feature limitations, just a bit of distractions.
| hnhn34 wrote:
| Same! I guess HNers have the same tendency to hoard bookmarks
| so we all ran into the same pain points.
| randomor wrote:
| Many of us certainly do share these pain points, most people
| will lament of a closing read-it-later tool and think "if
| only it's open source" so they can self-host a tool that
| likes pocket or omnivore, thinking that's the final form of
| this category. Nothing wrong with that, that's a tried and
| proven paradigm and comes with no additional transition cost.
|
| Because i started this not intending to build a read-it-later
| tool, we are working on different foundations with building
| blocks... we'll see where this digression will take me...
| asadm wrote:
| would be cool if you offered a one-time fee (like $30). many
| people including me are tired of subscription
| randomor wrote:
| noted. thanks for providing another data point!
| KempyKolibri wrote:
| Yeah, same here I'm afraid. Could be a "me" thing, but I was
| going to download until I saw it was a subscription model.
| Jotalea wrote:
| I believe this is so useful it should be implemented in macOS
| itself. Maybe not the same way as here, but having a keybind to
| "save stuff for later" is really useful.
|
| But I'm not gonna lie, I was a little bit disappointed when I saw
| it was exclusive to Apple systems. I guess I'll have to build it
| myself for using on Arch Linux (and Android). Well, at the end of
| the day Arch is a DIY OS ;)
| randomor wrote:
| i agree. Tim, waiting for your call here. you can find my
| number when you deposit the $10 i made this month.
| stevelacy wrote:
| Very nice looking app, installed. Would be interesting if this
| integrated with Raycast.
|
| I would suggest hiding the main window from the dock/switcher as
| when the window is closed it still presents the app title.
| Potentially NSApplication.setActivationPolicy(.accessory)
| randomor wrote:
| good eye, i'll try play with that setting. Raycast does already
| have bookmarking features, but when if enough people make this
| request, i'll look into it. Or maybe expose some MCP interface
| so it can interact with this.
| mnming wrote:
| With pocket sunsetting, I have been searching for alternatives
| lately. After a few rounds of search, I can't convince myself to
| use specialized bookmarks tool over Notion / Obsidian. I wonder
| what other people feel?
| JimDabell wrote:
| I've tried using Notion for this and I really can't stand it.
| There's a long-standing bug in Notion where if you paste a link
| in, the focus gets captured by the bookmark and cannot be moved
| by keyboard. You have to switch to the mouse to click away from
| the bookmark before you can continue typing. That alone is a
| show-stopper for me. What kind of document editor _forces_ you
| to use the mouse?
|
| Beyond that, I don't think there's any way of conveniently
| pasting in a URL as a bookmark. Is the only option to paste the
| link, then arrow down to "Bookmark" in the popup menu that
| appears and hit enter? There's no option to just default to
| bookmark?
| raydenvm wrote:
| Beautiful one! I have been a fan of hotkeys since childhood. How
| did you decide to choose "Cmd + C" twice? Were there other
| competing options that might be quicker and not in conflict with
| other hotkeys?
| randomor wrote:
| well, it's not me choosing it, i'm just tapping into the system
| clipboard. If you right click and copy something twice it will
| also be auto saved. I do this instinctively previously so one
| day I thought can I actually use this as a signal to REALLY
| remember something...
| iJohnDoe wrote:
| If I were to buy a MacBook, what are some must-have AI/LLM apps
| like this that are Mac only? Long time Mac user, but haven't
| bought new hardware in a while. Looking for an excuse.
| randomor wrote:
| Except we don't have any AI features yet although that's
| definitely part of the plan. :D
|
| I'd recommend asking in the r/macapps subreddit for my diverse
| answers. Here are two of my picks:
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| - Raycast has a really nice AI feature.
|
| - Aura by Meng To is one of my favorite LLM chat tool with a
| special prompt builder: https://aurachat.io/
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