[HN Gopher] The Next Abstraction
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       The Next Abstraction
        
       Author : mbs348
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2025-05-22 18:36 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | redwood wrote:
       | Spot on. New things will be possible. New things will be done.
       | And so the wheel turns.
        
         | alserio wrote:
         | I don't know, feels kinda shallow as an argument. For example
         | it only works until the demand for (paid) software exceeds the
         | offering.
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | I think of Java as one of the earliest widely-accepted languages
       | that introduced a lot of design patterns and language idioms that
       | have become pretty much par for the course, since.
       | 
       | I never really _liked_ it, but I see its influence in Swift,
       | every day, and I do like Swift.
       | 
       | I think that we are at the "unlikable Java" stage of AI, right
       | now. In a few years, we'll be seeing the next generation of
       | tools, and they will be pretty cool.
       | 
       | And no, CEOs, you won't be able to fire all of your developers,
       | and still stay in business. The developers will just have
       | different tools at hand.
        
         | alserio wrote:
         | But CEOs are putting a lot of money in AI and the books need to
         | be balanced somehow.
        
       | keybored wrote:
       | I guess all vaguely bait-level articles will be about AI now.
       | 
       | Well, so much questionable here. First of all abstraction.
       | Everything is an abstraction to programmers. It's not, please.
       | The author even was kind enough to contrast it with an old school
       | bona fide abstraction. Garbage collection eliminates memory
       | unsafety. You just don't have to worry about it. That's a real
       | abstraction. It takes power away and streamlines the whole
       | experience since you don't have to worry about certain variables
       | any more, they are just gone. What does AI do? It's leverage. It
       | might help you do things whatever factor of times faster that you
       | insist. Completely unevenly. There is not one thing it reliably
       | abstracts away. Please use precise words. You're supposed to be
       | technologists/technicians.
       | 
       | Then there's the old looking to the past in order to lecture
       | about what is hyped as completely unprecedented space-age
       | technology. Okay to be honest this isn't inconsistent if you
       | merely think that AI is a great technology but not a revolution,
       | not even a "silver bullet". But anyway I see no reason to
       | slavishly look to the past. The past is in fact tiny. WWII ended
       | one person's lifetime ago. How much oil was in the Earth 150
       | years ago? How much now? How reliably could you say that we could
       | just expand economically forever 80 years ago? With climate
       | change and whatnot, how is that looking right now?
       | 
       | Why not be a little cynical and pragmatic and consider that
       | everything might not play out exactly like they did in a person's
       | lifetime kind of timespan. The worst could happen. What's a
       | billionaire with both a robot workforce and a robot army? That's
       | you getting discarded like the useful idiot that you are, or
       | were. Just someone who dutifully built the whole world up for a
       | little wage so that it could all be taken away.
       | 
       | Maybe you think economists are smart because they have quips
       | against "finite piece of pie" so-called fallacies. Maybe you
       | think that the best programmers are the ones who hustle along to
       | the next paradigm, well those are after all the real go-getters,
       | the ones who just get on with business. I think those are tunnel-
       | visioned specialist fools.
       | 
       | Dig yourself into your specialist niche, aspire to be the hacker
       | among hackers. Revel in embodying the values that only other
       | members of your professional/hobbyist group respect. Meanwhile
       | ignore the sharks of the world circling around you and get taken
       | advantage of without any recourse or even notification.
        
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