[HN Gopher] The forbidden railway: Vienna-Pyongyang (2008)
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       The forbidden railway: Vienna-Pyongyang (2008)
        
       Author : 1317
       Score  : 86 points
       Date   : 2025-05-19 18:45 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com)
        
       | cenamus wrote:
       | Fascinating article, didn't know the border is/was that open via
       | Russia
        
         | decimalenough wrote:
         | It normally isn't (unless you're Russian or North Korean),
         | which is a large reason why this story is so fascinating.
        
         | cyberax wrote:
         | This is from 2008. Back then, North Korea was still living
         | under the previous Kim. Back then, the border was very leaky
         | and Koreans could move to China and Russia without a lot of
         | barriers.
        
       | ch4s3 wrote:
       | The follow on posts and photos are amazing. The photos of crowds
       | of North Koreans are really interesting, as were the earlier
       | station photos. The material culture of the place is kind of
       | fascinating.
       | 
       | It's also kind of mind boggling to contemplate the lives Arirang
       | performers[1]. What must that be like?
       | 
       | [1] https://imageshack.com/i/exNHDHTVj
        
         | Loughla wrote:
         | There are just no people anywhere. Do they clear everyone out
         | when westerners come through?
        
           | bobmcnamara wrote:
           | They are pixels
        
         | aziaziazi wrote:
         | [image of the show with a giant screen beside]
         | https://imageshack.com/i/exQrNAZnj
         | 
         | I was like "wow that is a _big_ screen although not very bright
         | ".
         | 
         | > Each background picture is created by about 40.000 childrens
         | holding tables containing pages with different pictures/colours
         | 
         | [zoom of the "screen" with endless pixels: a color square a
         | little head on top of each - impressionist style]
         | https://imageshack.com/i/exw2BFluj
        
       | oatsandsugar wrote:
       | did he end up going?
        
         | willidiots wrote:
         | Yes! There are a whole series of posts with photos and maps.
         | Click the red "Tumangan, we are coming!!!" link at the bottom
         | of the first post to jump to the next one, etc.
        
           | echelon_musk wrote:
           | Thanks. I didn't realise the red text was a hyperlink either.
           | 
           | To save anyone else the hassle, this is where he finally
           | crosses into NK:
           | 
           | https://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com/2008/09/tumangan-
           | north...
        
             | izacus wrote:
             | What hassle are you talking about? Reading about the trip?
        
             | anotheracc3 wrote:
             | Keep going and going and going. There are a lot of trains
             | (of course) but once you get past that there are a lot of
             | very interesting photos, especially the shows that look
             | extravagent and unique. This guy documents his trips well!
             | 
             | Hope it is backed up well (guess on the archive sites).
        
         | cosmicgadget wrote:
         | Yeah only after clicking the home button did I realize that '<'
         | is next. It suddenly got a lot less ominous.
        
           | netsharc wrote:
           | Ah, the blogosphere "Reverse chronological" order: Hit "<
           | Prev" to read the chronologically next post...
        
       | Klonoar wrote:
       | I think I probably refer a stupid number of people to this post
       | each year when the topic of trains and/or North Korea comes up.
       | Read it when it came out and always found it fascinating.
        
       | te_chris wrote:
       | This is one of the best bits of the internet and should be at the
       | top.
        
       | geye1234 wrote:
       | If you wanted to explain to someone what the 00s-blogging
       | phenomenon was all about, and to given them an example of the
       | best of it, you may well point to this.
       | 
       | Photos of NK like these are incredibly difficult to come by. What
       | a beautiful country.
       | 
       | Also, I admire his courage. In several photos, military people
       | are staring at him, as they may well be. He was lucky as well. He
       | states he hid the photos in a zip file in his C:\windows folder
       | when leaving the country, having deleted them from his SD Card.
        
       | ValentineC wrote:
       | I think I spent maybe 2 hours appreciating the author's journey.
       | 
       | This has been one of my best reads of the month, and I hope that
       | I'll one day get to visit Pyongyang myself, without the US visa
       | waiver issues that come with it.
        
       | sira04 wrote:
       | Is there anyone who has archived this into a PDF or ebook format?
       | I'd love to save and read it in another way.
        
       | ubermonkey wrote:
       | Pretty sure I read this when it was new. Wild.
        
       | saubeidl wrote:
       | Reading this made me nostalgic for the old internet and sad about
       | what it's become since.
       | 
       | I miss the days of blogs and forums and authentic content like
       | this.
       | 
       | Today it's all hyperpolished platforms filled with clickbaity
       | influencers. Every step of the way, somebody's trying to extract
       | as much money as they can.
       | 
       | I can't help but think that we in this community played a big
       | part in turning it into what it is now and that thought fills me
       | with regret.
        
         | steamrolled wrote:
         | The old internet is still there, it just hasn't scaled as
         | quickly as everything else. And frankly, we have a role to play
         | if we want to preserve and nourish it. You say you liked the
         | site. Drop the author a thank you note. Amplify it beyond
         | pressing the "up" arrow on HN. It's not just about the author:
         | show others that this kind of stuff is valued.
         | 
         | Today, the signals young content creators get is that they can
         | make dumb videos on YouTube or TikTok and get 10M subscribers
         | and ad revenue, or set up a geeky blog that will get 100 views
         | a month. But it's not Google or TikTok that did this: it's the
         | content consumers.
        
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