[HN Gopher] An Uplifting Origin of 86 (2001)
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       An Uplifting Origin of 86 (2001)
        
       Author : susam
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2025-05-18 16:04 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | wizardforhire wrote:
       | If you like me have grown weary of trick headlines that in no way
       | portray the words they are written with, you will be relieved to
       | know this is not one of them.
       | 
       | It's a quick read that tickles the mammalian foraging behavior
       | itch that is manifest by our insatiable desire for novelty.
       | 
       | My only complaint is that more research has not been done on this
       | most important of esoteric subjects.
        
       | paulryanrogers wrote:
       | Refreshing to see some research on how it really got started.
       | 
       | The breathless feigned shock that Comey would share "86 47" is
       | tiresome, especially coming from an administration whose head
       | unrepentantly shared an image of the president bound and tied
       | mid-kidnapping.
        
       | Sniffnoy wrote:
       | Is this readable for free anywhere?
        
       | timewizard wrote:
       | The entire "86 47" saga is a game of the "woke right." Seeking
       | victimhood status so they can smear their enemies and tie the
       | press up in knots.
       | 
       | Meanwhile Trump and family are in the middle east making deal
       | after deal and no one is really paying any attention or tracking
       | the stakes.
       | 
       | This whole thing is an outrageous circus. I'm severely
       | disappointed in all American institutions right now for playing
       | along with it even a little bit.
        
         | ctkhn wrote:
         | Their hatred isn't of the machine, it's that they're not in
         | charge of it. It's incredibly tiresome from both sides, to be
         | honest, because the machine is what causes a lot of our current
         | problems no matter who's in charge of it.
        
           | pstuart wrote:
           | The "both sides" thing had some merit in the past but that
           | was a different world -- the current admin is a whole new
           | level of self-dealing and disregard for the law except as a
           | weapon to punish its enemies.
        
             | timewizard wrote:
             | Well we've witness both sides engage in that behavior
             | recently. The only thing different about our world is the
             | level of apologia and backward looking justifications that
             | gets injected into social media about them.
             | 
             | Which I normally wouldn't comment on but your post is
             | fairly ironic given the current thread. Which is claiming
             | that the media is entirely absent from it's coverage of
             | Trumps latest schemes in order to argue about what,
             | precisely, a former FBI director meant with a picture of
             | seashells.
             | 
             | Perhaps if the dog and pony show died down we could return
             | to the very reasonable perspective that greed does not obey
             | political boundaries.
        
       | taneq wrote:
       | I thought '86' in this sense was rhyming slang for 'nix' (ie.
       | 'nullify' / 'negate')?
        
         | Henchman21 wrote:
         | I thought the term came from a speakeasy in Manhattan that had
         | an exit on 86th street. So when ejecting a patron who'd become
         | too drunk & disorderly, they'd "86 'em!", which roughly meant
         | pushing them out the exit onto 86th street. I've heard this
         | particular tale from multiple bartenders in Manhattan. I've
         | always questioned its veracity, as it feels a bit too good to
         | be true!
        
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